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May only gave up one earned run. We've had front row seats to loads of terrible starts since 2011. This wasn't one of them. We only scored one run. I think that was very much a main reason we lost today. Way more than May's performance (the three walks). The 'walk is evil' narrative pushed by the team and announcers for years gets really old. Yes, we'd rather not have a guy walk three batters, but would it have been fine if those walks were, instead, one walk and two hits? With three walks he still only gave up up ONE earned run.
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US/Cuba reopen formal diplomatic relations
jimmer replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in The Sports Bar
I hear they have tons of classic cars in great condition there (and even more in horrible condition). If so, time to go shopping. -
Less about pitcher's egos and more about teams valuing certain stats during contract negotiations.
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HE doesn't have any. HE hasn't played for years. Team DID have a great month of May though. that's for sure. Then June happened. Does he get just as much blame for the losses in June as he gets credit for the wins in May?
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He has been very disappointing this year overall. In some situations, he's been very good (like with RISP and men on), but overall, yeah, he needs to do something different, no doubt. I like that, over the last couple weeks, he seems to be going away from how he was going about his at bats earlier in the season. I like that he's going the other way more because that's how he's most comfortable hitting.
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Maybe he's not other-worldly in the zone as much as he used to be because the zone, as it's called now, has expanded? He definitely needs to adjust for sure, but I don't think it's that easy for a guy who values OBP as much as he does and knows it's important to get his pitch to hit and if not, take a walk. One thing for sure, there is no doubt the called strike zone has expanded quite a bit in the last 5 or so years. It's not debatable, it's not a matter of opinion, it has happened for sure.
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When I say I didn't mention new thought processes, I meant I didn't point to any alternate sayings or stats that would counter the old school thought process you mentioned that coaches and players talk about. I just said that, in general, they are harder to finally be accepted. In any event, most pitchers don't have a ton of blow up starts. Pelfrey isn't unique in that regard. That's the truth of it. A small percentage do and those guys usually don't last. We could take out a bunch of pitchers' handful of starts and say they look better than their season numbers look like. We could do that with any batter too, really. And yes, maybe a few other stats agree he's been good, but what are they? Wins and losses? Question: If you don't advocate for the idea that at least 6 IP and 3 or less earned runs means a guy gave a quality stat, would you be fine if the stat was 7 IP with 2 ER or less? Follow-up question, don't both scenarios keep the pitcher's team in the game, which was your original idea behind saying Pelfrey has been good? Kind of why I mentioned quality start to begin with, because it certainly falls under the whole idea of judging a pitcher by keeping his team in the game. Edit: after re-reading the original post of your I responded to, you were actually advocating looking at the team's record in games a pitcher starts as a way to say whether he was good or not. So, actually, you were talking about judging a pitcher's performance by team wins or losses.
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The called strike zone has expanded in the last 5 or so seasons and, IMO, a guy like Mauer, who has such a keen eye on how the strike zone was called most of his career, has an even harder to adjusting than most.
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When you say he's been our 2nd or 3rd best starter, you mean by ERA right? Just want to know what you're using to evaluate the pitcher's performance.
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I'm not sure we actually sold high on Span. He wasn't at his peak value (in fact he's arguably having his best year ever, offensively), and his contract was very favorable. Overall, though I think it ends horrendously, though I liked the thought process behind it. I think we could have gotten more though, for a player of Span's caliber and contract.
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I didn't even mention new thought processes. Anyway, 8 out of 15 is a hair over half the games he's started. Meaning almost 50% of the time, he didn't do that. Are you advocating we just care about the quality start percentage stat when evaluating starting pitchers? That's a slippery slope. One that would say Pelfrey has been better than Archer, Gibson, Kluber, etc.
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This. My Mom just went through this at 74 years old.
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I've been saying reliever forever...still saying reliever.
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In most sports, new thought processes take forever to reach players and even longer for managers (for the most part), because they've been in the game even longer. These are a bunch of players who grew up playing a game and now do it for a living. Traditional thought processes are handed down from generation to generation, player to player, coach to coach, and taken as gospel. If a guy goes 6 innings and gives up three runs then yes, he put the team in position to win, but he also carries a 4.50 ERA and if we are going to say that's okay, then that's fine. At that point, one could say most of the time every pitcher puts their team in a position to win in a majority of the time.
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I think there's some middle ground where one can say, hey, let's enjoy what we've gotten from him so far this year and hope it's good enough to flip him at the deadline.
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I said all along I thought they'd battle for the cellar in our division. To me, this is fantastic but not unexpected. For me, the surprise teams so far in our division have been our team and the Indians. A lot of season left.
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Appreciating Dozier's Dominant First Half
jimmer replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think Pedroia is still right there with both those guys and he's consistently good. Kipnis is on and off while Dozier just keeps getting better. No 2B in the game has been better than Dozier since 2014, and this is even considering his defense is under-rated, IMO, by metrics. -
I've been on the Larry Walker bandwagon for years.
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I think Edmonds should be a slam dunk HOFer. A great defensive CF with an OPS in the .900s and no hint of steroid use? Amazing player. Just my opinion, though. If Beltran keeps hanging on, he's going to hurt hsi chances. He's below Edmonds but about par with Williams and still above Jones and Hunter.
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I wonder how much consistency we'd get if we took 5 fans from each team and had them rate defensive abilities of all 30 team starters at each position how consistent those rankings would be (and how hilarious the results would be). Or even 5 fans from one team, for that matter.
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Edmonds was a fantastic defensive CF (like Hunter) who also had a career OPS in the .900s and an OPS+ of 132. I think he's very much in a different league than Hunter. If I had to rank Hunter in the same group as B Williams, Edmonds and Andruw Jones it'd be like this: Edmonds (who is HOF worthy) Williams. Hunter. Jones.
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We all know defensive metrics are just made up by 5 nerds in a closet picking random numbers for no reason :-)
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We have a ZERO run differential. Yup, we have scored the same amount as we have allowed.
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I must have missed the quote when they stated that.
