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It will be interesting. I think number 4 should be number 1. They need to bring in a guy like Cruz to DH, and I wouldn't mind a guy that can play 1B/3B/DH on top of that to keep Austin, Sano, and the new guy fresh. I'd add that they need a 2B and more flexibility in the IF as well. They actually do have a surplus of young pitching, and not enough places to put them all.. esepcially if they go out and get someone. I think to some extent, they may have to trade some of it off. I'd consider Romero, Thrope, and Graterol practically untouchable (note, I'd send one of them off, but I'd better be getting someone really good) The other problem is the pen. Lots of options, and a manager that doesn't trust any of them. My biggest disappointment from this season is really not seeing any of those guys truly emerge, and the FO trading off the one guy that did. Don't get me wrong, I liked those prospects, but that trade is the only one that negatively impacted 2019, and we didn't see enough to make me think that the guys we have can step up.
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I personally would argue that our mid 2000s pen started it (though to be fair, I don't think we figured that out)... we were constantly outperforming our pythag during that time.
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Greinke is under contract, right? You'll have to eat some of his salary (don't care there), but you'll have to send someone(s) away. I'd be fine with that. We have too much pitching at the high levels, and they will have to go at some point, so if it meant sending over someone not named Thrope, Romero, or Graterol, I'd probably be good with it. On that note, I kind of wonder what the Realmuto sweepstakes will look like this offseason. I could see the Marlins dealing him since they seem to be deathly allergic to contracts.
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I pretty much agree... except the part of penciling in Buxton there. I'm not sure I'm comfortable going north with Buxton at this point. Way too many seasons of not being able to hit. I'd like (if there is one) a 1 year make good deal from a CF with upside and plan on Buxton spending 2019 in the minors. I agree though on the rest of it. We need a DH, and as John mentioned, a middle of the order type. We need a 2B. I'm not ready to hand that to Gordon. One would hope we could bring Escobar in to fill that role till Gordon is ready and then move to a flex role at that point. As for pitching, yeah, I'm not too worried about that. Maybe an arm in the pen, but pitching wasn't our problem this year.
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Buxton's Greatness Knows No Bounds
diehardtwinsfan commented on Ted Schwerzler 's blog entry in Off The Baggy
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I don't beleive Bob lives in FL anymore. That's unfortunate.
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encouraged? Considering that everyone had written him off... If you want something that says that the new FO has changed development practices with Stewart, look at his progression. He actually started striking people out this year. Now that said, I'm not sure they should count on him. He's got 3 options, I'd plan on using one next year and see if he continue to improve. Either that, or perhaps he's trade bait at some point. He's showing that he's probably ready to be a serviceable back end starter with some upside. Perhaps someone with a blocked player at one of our needy positions might flip him to fill one of theirs?
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Article: Learning Leadership from Chris Gimenez
diehardtwinsfan replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
There's no desire to limit discussion. The desire is to eliminate the portrayal of unfounded speculation as fact as well as the tendency of some to disparage character. -
Article: Learning Leadership from Chris Gimenez
diehardtwinsfan replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
athletes have to deal with adversity too... that's essentially what Gimenez said in this piece. Judging by the fact that every FO makes signings based on this, I think we should give the Twins a bit of slack for acquiring Giminez… -
Article: Where Are The Twins Getting It Wrong?
diehardtwinsfan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Fair enough, but other than 2 months in 2017, Buxton has looked bad in general. He looked pretty bad in the minors too this season. I don't think his injury gives him a mulligan here, and even as he heated up in September, he was doing so with crappy peripherals. Lots of people can look good in a 40 AB sample size, which is what hot week in September was. I just find this juxtaposition interesting. The argument made on this site to call him up was due to a hot week. I don't think you can have this both ways. -
Article: Where Are The Twins Getting It Wrong?
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Article: Where Are The Twins Getting It Wrong?
diehardtwinsfan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I don't get this take at all. For one, I doubt many Cleveland fans loved Kluber when the Indians got him. It takes time to develop players, and these guys have had all of two years to do it. Kluber was acquired by the Indians in 2010 after a break out season (look him up, he wasn't very good prior to 2010). He didn't start showing tangible results to look like the Kluber we know until 2013. I don't think anyone is saying Belisle is the next Kluber. The question at hand is whether not the guys the FO is getting right now might be. It will take a few more years to figure that one out, which is why I tend to agree with others that this new FO is a 5 year experiment. -
Article: Where Are The Twins Getting It Wrong?
diehardtwinsfan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think you'd need to find one instance of said player following up that season with a .383 OPS first. I mean seriously... There are players with higher OBPs than Buxton's OPS in the majors this year. You can point out service time manipulation, but at the same time, this isn't happening if Buxton's major league line is remotely competent. -
Article: Where Are The Twins Getting It Wrong?
diehardtwinsfan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Van, I have to ask... You were one of the big proponents of getting rid of the last FO, if I remember right. You weren't a fan of scholarships either, if I remember right. Correct me if I'm wrong by the way... What exactly does one expect in this? Buxton isn't up because he didn't earn it. Why are we at TD so upset now because, quite frankly, he wasn't handed a scholarship. I certainly think the FO can learn a thing or two from the previous regime. That's precisely why you don't go in and fire everyone (which they didn't), but at the same time, we've been clamoring for them to make good business decisions. They did that. I'm not sure we can have it both ways when they suddenly drop the Minnesota nice aspect of things. -
Twins 2018 Short Season Pitcher Of The Year
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Considering the Twins teams tend to skew those numbers, I'd be curious of the appy league numbers minus the Twins... there are what, six teams in that league or something like that?- 8 replies
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Article: Where Are The Twins Getting It Wrong?
diehardtwinsfan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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lot of those guys will be in AA next year. Hopefully they keep taking the minors by storm.
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Article: Where Are The Twins Getting It Wrong?
diehardtwinsfan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
They also created a bunch of new positions as well. Orgs don't turnover well when they fire everyone, and I'd argue that there was plenty of good talent in the org, it just wasn't used well. I think a radical shakeup is accurate. I wouldn't be surprised if there's more shaking up this offseason either. Like it or not, transforming a culture doesn't happen overnight. -
Article: Kirilloff's 2018 One for the Ages
diehardtwinsfan replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think people would rightfully be upset if AK and Rooker started next season at their same levels. Both should be up a level from where they finished 2018... Both are potential call up options to MN next year (though I think Rooker, Weil, and Raley will take precedence over AK) That said, I think it's pretty clear Buxton should have spent another year in AAA. At this point it's very easy to say that in hindsight. I'd argue he should be starting there in 2019. -
Article: Kirilloff's 2018 One for the Ages
diehardtwinsfan replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I expect Gordon to get a cup of coffee at some point next year. Someone will need a few weeks on the DL. Rooker will probably force his way into the picture next year, especially if he doesn't get into his "new level/slow start" pattern that he's had at every other stop. I think AK and Lewis are a bit aggressive. Both would likely start in AA, though I think Lewis might start in A+... not sure. He wasn't quite as overpowering with the bat and will definitely need more minor league seasoning on his glove (though to be fair, he can do that at any level). I think the idea that all shoudl be up at some point next year though isn't wise. It has nothing to do with service time and everything to do with the tendency that fans have to ignore the very real learning curves at these levels. I think watching Buxton struggle in the majors should be a good reason for pause on rushing these guys. There's no harm in making them earn it, not to mention they are better setup to succeed if they do. It also ignores the fact that we'd have to toss aside someone like Kepler or not sign a 2B/SS to make that work. That would be punting on 2019 and quite possibly 2020. -
I really don't think they are too far away from turning around. I think 2018 was a lesson learned for both Sano and Buxton. I agree that their future and the team's future are tightly interwoven, but I doubt you see that kind of ineffectiveness again. I'd say they could turn around easily by getting a decent stop gap in CF, a guy like Escobar to play 2B until Gordon is ready, and guy that can mash at DH (added bonus if he can play the field somewhere). Most of the rest of the pieces are there, and you should see improvement from a lot of the younger guys.
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Fall back plans are not plans that both would be ROY candidates next year. I should also note that I forgot about Raley. He's going to be in AAA as well I would suspect. You can still sign a 4A type in Rochester as well if you'd want since both Rooker and Weil do play some OF, and Raley is primarily an OF. There's room there to do that at Rochester. As I noted before, I'd have no problems with Mauer as a 1B/3B bench role, but you're not going to get a guy like Cruz on the bench. Fall back plans are precisely that... guys who won't be starting elsewhere. The hope with a fall back plan is that you have someone competent. I guess Mauer could be that if that's what you're arguing. We have 3 decent hitting prospects sitting in AAA next season. That's acceptable depth if you go into the season with Austin and Cruz at 1B/DH and a guy like Mauer on the bench. I'm more worried about depth in CF personally as well as finding a guy like Escobar who can act as a 5th starter in the infield.
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Article: Across the Meadow: The Buxton Saga
diehardtwinsfan replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
To an extent. I was referencing Buxton's 4 year career, not just this year. He should have spent more time in the minors, that part was obvious, but the Twins got rid of all their CFs and didn't have a backup plan. Not sure this current FO helped much either. They handed him the job in 2017 as well. I could see that in 2018 given how he finished, but it was the same old Buxton to start in 2018. I think they need personally to plan on him not starting in 2019. His approach is bad, and for what it's worth, he has not developed good habits at the plate.

