chpettit19
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What extension could have been done? Are there reports out there about Jeffers being open to an extension and the Twins refusing to do it? I never understand this stance that the FO screwed up by not doing an extension. The players have free will. They're allowed to say no to any extension offer. The Twins could certainly offer obvious overpays that would give them a good chance at getting the player to sign, but the reason they're called overpays is because they're paying more than they should for the player. Generally, a bad idea. It's certainly possible I missed, or have forgotten about, reports that Jeffers was begging for an extension and the Twins refused to pay him a reasonable amount. But it's not just automatically the Twins screwing up when there isn't an extension.
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Expectations and the AL not having 6 teams above .500 consistently. That's who's to blame for the perception that there's some collapse happening. The Twins are, and have been, hitting projections pretty dead on. Mid-70s in wins. In some weird way, fans have taken them not losing 110 games and being "in contention" because of the historically horrific AL to mean that they've over-achieved somehow. They haven't. They're still a bad team. They've been below .500 nearly the entire season. Falvey, Zoll, Joe Pohlad, whoever was making decisions last year and most of the offseason is who is to blame if you want to point fingers at people. But this was the plan. Zoll and Tom Pohlad get blame for the nonsense expectations, though. The problem isn't the Twins being bad this year, again, that was the plan. The problem is that they tried to pivot from that plan 3/4 of the way through it and hurt their chances to come out the other side with a team really capable of competing. The Twins were at .500 on April 22nd. They were below .500 on April 23. That's 24 and 25 games into the season. They've been at .500 4 days since then. They've been above .500 1 day since then. They've now played 140 games. In the last 115 games, they've been at or above .500 for 5 of them. The idea that there's "another second half collapse" happening is nonsense to start with. They've been bad all year.
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Fellow Twins Fans, I'm Begging You ... Make Tom Pohlad Earn It
chpettit19 commented on LastOnePicked's blog entry in Blog LastOnePicked
Whether or not it was a blunder (Tom's decision) depends on the actual goal. I believe their goal is to sell this team as soon as they can get the number they want. I think they're hoping that happens after the new CBA puts in place revenue predictability and consistency. And if that's the goal, I don't think Tom made a blunder. He did what he was supposed to do, and that's everything you've described...get as much of the fanbase back on board from a PR perspective as possible to help improve their sale number by saying nice words and making minimal moves. I don't think Tom cares about the baseball blunder because he doesn't care about the baseball team. He cares about his portion of the sale. And he's improved his position there. He won't care about the baseball blunder until/unless he gets stuck with the team he doesn't want in a league without newfound revenue predictability for years to come and he sees that he shot himself in the foot by making a short-term play but getting stuck with the long-term consequences. -
This is a pretty good summary of what I want. I don't like the use of the word "parity" because it too often turns into people arguing about WS champs, playoff teams, division winners, etc. and how they are distributed along the payroll spectrum, but I agree with this idea. To me, it's about a level playing field. I don't at all expect the Twins to suddenly be more successful if the league gets their floor/cap situation just because they're forced to spend more. They still have to "make good decisions, draft well, develop players and manage (their) roster properly." But they don't have to do all those things at a level higher than the large market teams. Milwaukee, Tampa, Cleveland are all pretty consistent playoff teams these days. But that's because they do those things better than just about anybody not named Dodgers. And even with being 3 of the 5 best run organizations in baseball, they have nearly no chance of winning a title. All I want out of every CBA is to set the playing field at a level mark where everybody is playing with the same tools at their disposal. Make it about owner's abilities to hire the right people, and those people to execute a plan. I'm fine with dynasties if those dynasties are earned on a level playing field. What I dislike is going into every baseball season knowing half the league is just playing for a participation trophy no matter how successful the FO is at doing their job.
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Envisioning the 2027 Twins Starting Lineup
chpettit19 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Do you feel he isn't a realistic signing? Not trying to be a dick, just trying to see what your thoughts are that lead to "I just don't see a realistic hitter to sign." Seiya is likely going to be pretty expensive. No idea what the Rays would want for a year of Yandy. But I'd think Arraez and Arozarena are both gettable at a reasonable number. Fully agree that the FA options are not great, but I think there's an opportunity for an owner who truly wants to compete and is willing to spend (man, I'm full of jokes today) to make a move or 2 to bring in a legitimate hitter for this team.- 165 replies
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Envisioning the 2027 Twins Starting Lineup
chpettit19 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I guess it depends on what you mean by realistic, to me. Is Yandy realistic? Probably not to sign because they'd be crazy to not pick up his option. But maybe in trade? They've been trying to move him for years. Arraez feels realistic, though. You wouldn't take Luis Arraez on this team? He'd probably be my first call when FA opens. If Pohlad really means he'll invest/spend (good joke, I know), Seiya Suzuki as the primary DH with some OF time would be a great fit, I think. If they came out of this offseason with Arraez, Yandy, and Seiya in their lineup, I'd be feeling pretty good about things. How realistic that is a whole different thing. But I'd be happy adding any of those 3 without a doubt. Arozarena is a little intriguing, too. If they can get any of those 4 on short-term deals, I'd be quite happy. Those are 4 legitimate MLB hitters. Prices and contract lengths (or trade pieces for Yandy) being big factors in things, obviously.- 165 replies
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This will be my last reply. That is not what I said. What I said is the players are not idiots or so easily manipulated that the manager yelling for any old reason is going to get them pumped up. They didn't think it was dirty. If they did, KC, Clemens, Lee, Lewis, Kremer, anyone on the infield would've let Vargas know. But they didn't. Because it wasn't dirty. The manager making a fool of himself while storming onto the field to yell about a clean play as if it was a dirty play would not make those full grown adult men go "Oh, my gosh! He really cares! He has our back! I really need to play so much harder now that I know he's willing to defend me when I don't need defending!" It'd make them say "Why are we wasting our time listening to you yell about a clean play like an idiot when we should just be playing ball? Go sit down."
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Yes, he did slide towards the base. The only reason he didn't reach it was because KC was so far in front of it and he was avoiding taking KC out and/or getting hit in the face with a baseball. This isn't worth arguing about. If you think the players would've been pumped up at watching their manager make a fool of himself while they all knew he was yelling about a clean play, cool. You do you. But I don't think the players are idiots or so easily manipulated.
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I think it looks pretty ridiculous to make those statements when the players themselves don't react in any way, shape, or form suggesting they thought it was dirty. Players tend to overreact far more than underreact in the heat of the moment. Especially if they think it was something that could've hurt them. Not a single player on the Twins team (that was shown on TV, at least) looked upset in the least. They were just trying to steal an out with the review by getting technical with Vargas not having reached the base.
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"Blew up?" "Send a message?" We're talking about the play where Vargas slid 3 feet short of KC and he gently, but slightly awkwardly, stepped over him after his throw? My goodness, you guys would need to do a lot of "message sending" if that's all it takes. Shelton would've looked like a fool on the field going crazy over that, and Jeffers, Jenkins, Keaschall, pick your favorite Twins hitter, wearing 100 in the ribs would be awfully upset with any pitcher who caused it by throwing at Vargas.
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Emmanuel Rodriguez Has Waited Long Enough
chpettit19 replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
He likely already has private coaches he uses during the offseason. Or, if he doesn't, he'll get them if there's a lockout that bleeds into the season. Like most professional baseball players. They aren't working with team staff during the offseason, they're working at baseball training facilities with their private hitting, fielding, or pitching coaches. -
Fair. I'm certainly not going to claim this org is well run but not bringing him up at all this year would be a whole new level of failure. They'd likely face a grievance from the MLBPA/Walker Jenkins/Scott Boras if they hold him down while he performs like he has this month.
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What service time have they suppressed? If they don't call him up at all this season, you'd have an argument. But he was never going to make the opening day roster or be up in the first couple weeks of the season, so he was never going to get a year of service time this year. If they don't IL Buxton and replace him with Jenkins starting tomorrow, it's a very real problem. Especially if Buxton is sitting on the bench for the whole weekend. Jenkins was more name than AAA performance/dominance until about 3 weeks ago. He's clearly flipped a switch, and it's time. But the idea the Twins have suppressed his service time in any real way is a pretty big reach.
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Emmanuel Rodriguez Has Waited Long Enough
chpettit19 replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I'm not really worried about which order they come in, especially because it's only a 4-day difference, but Jenkins is the bigger name and the better PR move. No reason to give fans another thing to point and yell at when it's easy enough to just bring Jenkins up now and Emma next Tuesday. -
Emmanuel Rodriguez Has Waited Long Enough
chpettit19 replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Twins off day today. Put Buxton on the IL. Bring Jenkins to Target Field to get comfortable with his new clubhouse and get some swings in. Put him in the lineup in CF to start the homestand tomorrow. Emma up on 9/1 with roster expansion. Bring Buxton back if Cleveland hasn't finally put the sub-.500 teams to bed. If they've pulled away and the playoff field is essentially set, let him get surgery if it's needed or just a few extra weeks of rest heading into the offseason while the kids get some experience for 2027 and beyond. -
"Then something interesting happened. The Twins started winning enough games to make the postseason a realistic possibility." I'm sorry, but this should say "The Twins started losing few enough games in an historically bad league to make the postseason a realistic possibility." This team has been on the exact pace nearly everyone thought they'd be on for nearly the entire year. Mid-70s in wins. The league only having 5 teams above .500 in August does not mean this team has been good. They haven't. They are what we thought they were. The rest of the league just sucks, too. They should absolutely be trying to make the postseason at this point, but pretending like they're forcing the postseason possibility by winning a bunch of games is nonsense. 1 team is going to back into the AL playoffs. I hope its the Twins. But whoever it is sure isn't earning their way there. Unless somebody flips a switch like the Red Sox did.
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They aren't barred from practicing baseball. Most of the guys in professional baseball have trainers and coaches on the side. They go to specialized baseball training clinics during the offseason and work with personal hitting, pitching, or fielding coaches. Yes, if there's a meaningful number of missed games next year, Walker would miss those game reps, but he'd still be training and working on his skills. He could even get together with Twins pitchers and have them throw him live BP so they're both working on their craft and getting better. The threat of a lockout is weighed far too heavily by fans. Should a team like the As take it into real consideration? Sure. But nobody anywhere near a playoff spot is worrying about a possible lockout costing games in 2027 when making decisions about calling up somebody like Jenkins.
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Jenkins is playing more and more LF these days. My guess is that the debut is near.
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Hey, that's a 13% jump in zone contact rate! At this rate, he'll be at 100% in 3 more seasons. He won't be long for professional baseball if he doesn't make some pretty crazy strides in that department.
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No problem at all. I didn't think there was any disrespect or anything like that. I enjoy the back and forth. I can guarantee you there's people in the front office making your arguments and people in there making mine. Our little TD front office with no say in anything at all is enjoyable because of the disagreements and other view points. This season has provided the opportunity for even more debate because of the craziness of being consistently below .500, but also in the playoff race. Been one of the more enjoyable TD seasons in recent memory with all the different realistic ways they could've gone with decisions.
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It was delayed because he was hurt. If Emma was healthy, he'd have debuted this year for sure, if not last year, at the age of 22 or 23. Marek Houston is on the Lee, Keaschall, Culpepper path of debuting roughly 2 years, or less, from the date he was drafted. Gabby Gonzalez debuted at the age of 22. Henry Mendez is going to debut at 22 or 23. As previously mentioned, Prielipp absolutely flew through the system in terms of innings pitched. Walker Jenkins is going to debut at the age of 21 or 22. And, again, Walker Jenkins has been hurt every year and was barely above average at AAA until a light went on about 2 weeks ago. Calling him up just because fans know his name is an awful decision making process. He's just now earning his call by sustaining true, above average production. Its pretty wild to suggest the Twins have been delaying top prospects from debuting the last few years or that they've done anything crazy conservative with Jenkins. As pointed out above, he's going to debut with roughly 400 fewer minor league PAs than Clark had. And Clark got promoted as an injury replacement. Not because the Tigers cleared some path for him.
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Didn't Zoll just add some Culpepper guy to the 40-man and call him up? Wasn't he a "top prospect?" Didn't the Twins call up Brooks Lee 2 years after drafting him while Zoll was the GM? Didn't they call up Luke Keaschall 2 years after drafting him while Zoll was GM? Didn't Connor Prielipp have barely more than 100 minor league innings before he debuted while Zoll was GM? Wasn't Walker Jenkins a slightly above average AAA hitter until about 2 weeks ago? Isn't Jenkins 21 and in AAA but has suffered serious injuries in every season of his career? I get that people want to see him, and the Twins definitely hoard below average veterans far more than I'd like, but some of you guys are making it sound like the Twins are holding Jenkins back while he's 23, 24, and 25. I'd love to see him. They could force him into the lineup and it wouldn't be ridiculous. But he's also only been a clearly dominant AAA player for about 2 weeks. He's earned his way up at this point and I expect him, or Emma, to get a chance when an everyday role opens up. Making it sound like the Twins are refusing to call up top prospects is ignoring the reality of what they've actually done with their top prospects and what Jenkins has actually done at AAA. It's entirely reasonable to have the 21-year-old who's missed significant chunks of time in every one of his professional seasons still at AAA. It's still a very quick promotion schedule. And it's only random TD posters claiming the lockout has any bearing on anything. Again, the Twins literally just called up a top prospect.

