I really don't know why you think TR should go. You point out two org who had historically long number of losing seasons and relatively new front offices that have had the advantages of years worth of high draft picks and/or new stadiums. Ryan kept the Twins a playoff team while reconstructing the nucleus of his team. He's had the job for less than a year and made a number of solid moves in FA - Willingham, Burton, Walters, Doumit, Carroll - as well as drafting and spending a lot in the international market. Honestly, how would you feel if Ryan blew two drafts like Huntington did in Pitt? In 2009, he took Sanchez #4 on the promise to sign more guys later in the draft - none of which have made the majors or on the Pirates top 10 prospect list - and to sign Miguel Sano. He then took Appel this year and failed to sign him and his backup picks didn't sign either. His top prospects have struggled in the majors and a number of them are making their debuts at 25. His teams have faltered down the stretch (and will probably do so again this year). I actually do think NH is a good GM but I think if Ryan had made the same decisions he had, he'd be lampooned.