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  1. You were able to see the driver?
  2. No. There’s no need to continue repeating this. Here is an article from 2016 from a former cop who says only 15% are bad. https://www.vox.com/2015/5/28/8661977/race-police-officer
  3. No, my stance is that I am correcting your mistaken information about why there are curfews.
  4. Wrong. It ultimately goes back to the bad cops. Not all cops, just the bad ones.
  5. Thanks, Nick. It takes guts to put this out there.
  6. Exhausting and emotional indeed. I am ready to get going with the healing. Looks like some Minneapolis firefighters are ready to start the healing too:
  7. Plenty of black leaders have addressed the protest/riot/looting issue that concerns you, so there’s nothing much for me to add to that. I agree with you that those police officers who killed George Floyd must be brought to justice. But I will say again that we are in this spot because, for too long, bad police have not been held accountable for bad acts against peaceful citizens.
  8. https://twitter.com/pareene/status/1266901098842984450
  9. I don’t have trouble with you being pacifist, if that’s what you are referring to. We got to this moment because bad cops weren’t being held accountable for bad acts against peaceful people.
  10. What do you see as the problem? What do you mean by justice? It would help if we could understand each other better. I will add that it’s something of a miracle that only a couple people have lost their lives across the country the past couple nights. Keep that in mind. This tells me that this fight isn’t about hating each other. It’s about uprooting an unjust system. (That’s my short version of it, anyway.
  11. What about canceling 2021? I want to hear you think this out.
  12. I didn’t agree with everything you said but the last part I think you nailed it. There are many variables but the big one is the fans need to come back. And my assumption is that they won’t want to or won’t be allowed to, not this year and probably not next year either. Like you, I can see a scenario where the owners lock out the players. So that leaves us in a possible situation where fans won’t get to cheer their favorite teams because the richest multi-millionaire players won’t accept a pay cut from owners who would rather burn their franchises to the ground than give an inch to the enemy. Or as Michael Scott once said: win win win.
  13. We are all living in a much different world — no need for the attacks. I have no idea what the business side of baseball looks like at this moment, or what the models show, but let’s say that the owners will lose more money playing this year than not playing. Meaning, not playing at all will be less harmful financially. So let me ask you. At what point does the curve bend the other direction, and the owners need the players to get back on the field? This year’s postseason? Next year? The year after?
  14. Certainly possible, but probably too risky. I assumed they couldn’t use the stadiums, or the MLB team names either. They could still find places to play and actually do some traveling around the state. They would certainly make less money. I would want the new “Twins” to look a lot like the current Twins, too, but as essentially a new independent league I guess playere could scatter and reestablish themselves wherever they wanted. Fun to think about, but little more than that.
  15. The idea of the players forming a new league fascinates me. No idea what that looks like or how far fetched it is. I would certainly pay to watch them if they filmed their games.
  16. It should be a huge concern to Walz and Minnesotans that none of Minnesota’s neighbors have shelter in place orders, and that Minnesotans itching to get out for their own sanity will go to those states for leisure. Then bring the virus back with them. But again, it was probably already too late even in March to contain the virus, no vaccine is on the horizon, and people won’t tolerate being cooped up indefinitely.
  17. Maybe the two sides could agree on full pro-rated salaries for 2020, and then revenue sharing for 2021. And then wait until the CBA expires after the 2021 season to destroy the game completely (said only half tongue-in-cheek)
  18. Rosenthal’s latest article in the Athletic makes it sound like the players want to play, and that the players trust the league to make it safe for them to play. So yeah, now this.
  19. The owners are taking a bath—of course they are. The players haven’t been paid yet, except for the token amount offered after the season was suspended, in exchange for pro-rated full salaries once the season resumed. That’s my understanding. Like another poster said above, we don’t really know the fine details.
  20. I do see your point of view. But then part of me wonders, because these are extraordinary circumstances to say the least, why cannot owners absorb their share of the pain here, for just 2020, then deal with 2021 when that time comes.
  21. Although surviving at all could be considered a win in this environment.
  22. I think in the interests of survival—and considering the NFL is going to go forward with their season come hell or high water—that both sides need to work something out and play some semblance of a season. I wouldn’t call it a possible “win-win” as the writer does, but a matter of survival. “It’s also worth noting that the matter of revenues, which would necessarily be the basis for any revenue sharing deal, is historically fraught with ambiguity. Owners only share certain revenue figures with players, not all. They also have a ton of revenue sources which they will likely argue should not be subject to any deal for 2020. The Braves, for example, own a massive real estate development around their park that, in many ways, benefits from the playing of baseball games there. So do the Cardinals. Will players get a cut of that too? If not, why not? How about media deals? How about those business partnerships with sports books? How about the money that comes in from so-and-so company being “the official so-and-so company of Major League Baseball?” “None of this is to say that some novel, alternative arrangement isn’t theoretically better for everyone involved for 2020. It may be. We’re in uncharted waters. There could be win-wins to be found here if they go back to the table and figure one out.” https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/05/08/an-owner-player-salary-fight-could-be-looming/
  23. My memory of it is different, rdehring. From the earliest dates, I assumed there would never be fans at games in 2020 (or that schools would ever reopen this spring, despite dates that were floated, same idea). In any case, I think the writer is saying that the owners already made a deal with the players that the players would be paid their full salary pro-rated if games started back up in 2020.
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