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  1. I was really just trying to convey how nice it would be to have an elite SS. At one point it looked like we might get one between Lewis and Javier. Those odds look pretty short (pun intended) at the moment. It's been a long time since this team had that type of SS. Brujan may not be the guy either given the concerns about his arm. I just ant to watch a great SS for the next few years. Buxton was awesome to start the season but I would trade him for a great SS prospect that was near ready.
  2. I did not articulate where I was going with the 3 team scenario. I would not suggest Sano would being even close for Brujan. I was thinking sending assets which might include Berrios or even Buxton to a 3rd team who sent assets to Tampa to make it work. It's a pipedream. I was really just making the point I would love to get Brujan! That's the kind of scenario where it makes sense to move Berrios or Buxton. Damn TB with him and Franco and they signed Brujan for $15K. People complain because we don't sign more $3M+ guys when we have a few and none of them have really panned out. I want to see the Twins find a couple of these gems for nothing.
  3. Agree. Lewis and Miranda panning out would be huge for this team even if Lewis ends up in CF.
  4. There is still a lot of season left. Let's hope Ober continues to show well and hopefully he is just the first. We need to keep in mind Duran and Balazovic started late. Those two plus Winder and Ober could make this an extremely good year in terms of developing pitching. Watching this unfold is going to be very interesting and hopefully a very positive part of this horrid season.
  5. That could make sense IF Sano gains consistency between now and the deadline and they continue to get low production from first base and the twins are willing to eat a significant part of his salary. I would like to find a package the Ray's like for Brujan has is ready to debut. Maybe a 3 team team trade. He could take over for Simmons right now and he has a 949 OPS at AAA. The Rays have Franco waiting in the wings so they could move Brujan.
  6. I might have missed it but I did not see any reasons as to why he needs to be traded now as opposed to later.
  7. I am not to caught up in them making a historic comeback. That's not happening. What I would like to see is a competitive team playing reasonably well and it would be really great if someone prospects get a shot and perform really well. Today Ober looked like a guy that can contribute for a few years. Just one step of many to field a team that contends but good to see just the same. Gordon has been a nice surprise so far too.
  8. We don't really know what they are thinking just because they say the rotation is "staying the same for now". They might be thinking they need to jettison Shoemaker as soon as possible but don't feel they have anyone ready at the moment. They might be thinking they will get a look or 2 at Ober and Jax and then make a move. Perhaps they want a couple more weeks for Duran or maybe they want to shuffle some SPs and get Winder moved up to AAA. We should no better than to assume the statement by Rocco indicates they don't see a need to make a change. It sounds to me like a nice way of saying we need a moment to get our ducks in a row.
  9. Wouldn't every other team also prefer to spend his $12M salary more effectively? Another team is not taking him right now without us taking back salary which kind of defeats the purpose unless the deal was for the Twins to eat his 2021 salary and the trade partner covers 2022. I think we need to hope he finds his 2019 form real soon and becomes tradable. His wRC+ is 122 over the past 3 weeks so it's not a great leap. He just needs to be more consistent than he has been lately. I would love for them to move Donaldson too. It's too soon to get carried away on Miranda but he looks to have taken a leap forward and could be the next position player to earn a promotion. Let's hope his success continues because Kirilloff / Larnach / Miranda and eventually Lewis could be a very good core of position players. Plus, all that young (cheap) talent would leave us with significant payroll budget to add talent.
  10. I have to agree. Use that spot to take a look at Ober / Jax. Happ and Pineda hopefully pitch really well and get traded for something of value between now and the deadline opening two more spots. Watching the pitching prospects will be a reason to tune-in to the games. Maybe they can give us hope for the future.
  11. Seth, I heard an interview when Jax was named MilB pitcher of the week that suggested his velocity has ticked up. They went on to say the increased difference between his FB and secondary pitches has made those pitches more effective. Do you suspect he is going to be on the radar for promotion? One other question... Which top prospects are showing the most consistent command?
  12. I don't see this as being much of an issue. They will gain 2 rosters spots in September. More importantly, we should see several trade deadline deals that will make room to audition prospects. I hope the SP prospects are showing well enough by late July that we have 3 spots in the rotation occupied by prospects and another couple guys in the BP.
  13. There were several BP arms but not as many SPs. I hated the Tyler Jay pick and I just did not see Stewart / Gonsalves / Thorpe as the same level prospect as Duran / Balazovic / Canterino / Winder. I see a second group of Enlow / Jax / Ober / Sands / Rijo/ Raya as being more on par with Stewart / Gonsalves / Thorpe. If nothing else the point is there are a lot of guys that look like they COULD play at the MLB level and quite a few that could be impact players. I guess part of it is that it's a lot more fun the believe in the potential than it is to curse past failure.
  14. I was just thinking the same thing. It looked like he could spot his fastball and we have a lot of guys that do not have adequate command. I don't like the way the 40 man was managed. I can't blame them for Baddoo because I too did not believe someone would take him. However, I did not believe Thorpe or Smeltzer were ML pitchers.
  15. Every team retreads BP arms. The biggest squander of dollars has been high-end relievers. They fail more often than they succeed. They money is better spent elsewhere or even on 3 or 4 guys instead of one. I also don't understand where you are coming from on guys we cut other than Anderson. Guys like Littell / Chargois / Curtiss are not even remotely the answer to our BP issues.
  16. I have no disagreement which is why I said it might not be realistic. However, the point I was emphasizing is that our future does not rest with Duran. How this group turns out is far more influential on the future of the team. I don't remember a time when we had this many pitching prospect I thought had a chance to be impact (mid-rotation or better). At this moment, I believe a couple of them are going to be really good SPs and a couple others will be solid contributors. The prospect I see as most pivotal is Lewis. He is going to play CF or SS. We don't have other prospects for these positions that seem like they could be impact players. Lewis losing this year really sucks. I would be for trading Berrios if we received a really good SS or CF prospect. Duran could end up being a closer. That would be just fine is Balazovic and Winder are top of the rotation guys. Then, if a couple of Canterino / Enlow / Sands / Valimont / Jax / Barnes / etc end up being solid MLB starters, we are going to be in a great position. With all that cheap talent we would have a significant budget for some very good free agents.
  17. The way I see it .... If 2 of Duran / Balazovic / Winder / Enlow / Canterino / Sands turn out to be better than mid-rotation SPs we are in good shape. My hope is a couple top of the rotation guys and a couple other solid SPs or back of the BP guys. Maybe that's unrealistic but we would be in great shape. It all does not rest on Duran.
  18. Let's hope that all of the injuries around the league create an opportunity to trade our FA SPs well in advance of the deadline. Trades this time of year are somewhat unusual but this is an unusual year with all of the injuries. That would accelerate the process. It would be interesting to know how the FDO office sees the various prospects in terms of readiness.
  19. Two questions .... One, what's the return. Two, can we sign another free agent SP that is as good for roughly the same money and younger? If the return is a starting caliber player, why would we want to pass-up that opportunity if we can get a similar player (hopefully younger) in free agency. A key consideration is if the team is able to establish a couple prospects this year that take rotation spots next year. If so, They could take the money they are spending on Pineda, Happ, and Shoemaker and spend it on an upgrade SP. If I were this FO, I would move those three even if it meant putting them in the BP or releasing them to make room for auditions. Also, Cruz and Simmons come of the books too. They will have money to spend on FAs.
  20. Dobnak has one pitch. He has absolutely no control over the slider. Send him down until he can control a 2nd pitch or even better a 2nd and 3rd pitch. Bring up whoever they feel is closest to ready.
  21. Are you predicting Buxton gets traded or are you assuming he is on the IL most of next year. Regardless, I am with you on Lewis At whatever position he is best suited to contribute. I was really hoping we would get a look at Lewis this year in a big league uniform. All of these injuries really suck!
  22. Good idea! The Chris Archer trade was one of the best ever. I guess that trade is more analogous to trading Berrios as Archer was traded at the deadline with the remainder of that season and the next under contract. Glasnow was better with more years of control + Meadows and the prospect they got back then is now #76 on MLB.com. 70 grade fastball and 65 grade slider. He is a front of the rotation guy if he can command that stuff reasonably well. Sure would like the Twins to pull off something similar. Good call, Mike.
  23. Do you suppose Gray did not bring much back because he was quite bad in 2018 (4.9 ERA)? Also, you are arguing value based on the fact they needed a SP. SO do most teams. How does that change the value of a player who profiled as Gray did at the time. Service time matters to value. Gray and Quintana would not have brought back nearly as much as they did had they been rentals. How much better are Whitesox as a result of trading Quintana and getting Cease and Jemenez? Good SP s can bring a good haul which is why we have to listen to trade proposals for Berrios.
  24. Contract length always influences the cost to trade for the player. Players like Gray and Quintana have significant value beyond the current year. That benefit might be in the form of continuing to aid a contending team or the form of trading them if the team suddenly is no longer a contender. This is hardly a new concept. Value in this form is discussed frequently during the off-season and trade deadline on a myriad of baseball shows.
  25. Maybe. The current "core" never really delivered with the exception of 2019. 2023 could be very good if the pitching prospects pan out the way we hope. Berrios was the only really solid pitcher we developed. Therefore we relied on FA starting pitching and that's tough for a mid-market team to pull-off. If part of the new core includes 4 home grown starters and 1 premium FA starting pitcher that would be a scenario where we could be a playoff team relatively soon. For position players ... Kirilloff and Larnach look like they could cornerstones. We just really need Lewis to meet expectations. Areaz and Polanco are quality starters. That would be a good core of position players especially of Miranda and/or Palacios continue to shine. Now, add to that a couple of decent contributors acquired at the deadline this year and you have a good team by 2023. That team is not going to peak in 2023 but the pieces are there to retool/rebuild in a short period of time,
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