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  1. Woof Bronzer
    They had Friday off, and they have tomorrow off. Are people really suggesting that he needs 3 off days for every 5 he DHs? This is a very legitimate question in my opinion.
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    I have the same question...when I saw he was sitting I thought maybe it was a belated April Fools joke. 4 games in 5 days and he needs a break?
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    Is this a good thing? Pitching worse guys when you are losing seems like giving up to me.
  4. Woof Bronzer
    I think the modern sabermetrics push has resulted in things like heavy shifts, multiple pitching changes dragging out games, early hooks and prioritizing pitcher velocity over health/longevity resulting in the game's best pitchers throwing less, reduction in strategic plays like stolen bases and bunting, and the trend toward 3 outcome at bets. All of which has been dramatically worse for the entertainment value of the game in my opinion. And it's not just me - I read an article that MLB lost HALF of its World Series viewership in '22 vs '16. Attendance is also down almost across the board. So yeah I think these things matter. Cannot freakin believe I just sided with Manfred on anything, I'm going to go shower now :)
  5. Woof Bronzer
    Main takeaway: my goodness is KC bad. Why in the world didn't they pitch their best starter? I feel bad for KC fans.
  6. Woof Bronzer
    Maybe, unless the Twins decide to sit healthy players for some reason. I took my son to a game last summer (we can only afford one game per year unfortunatley, long story). His favorite player by a mile is Buxton and his favorite thing is when Buxton does the truck honk thing after a homer. He even has a Twins trucker hat. Long story short the game we went to happened to be one where they sat an apparetnly healthy Buxton. (And Correa, coincidentally) My son was in tears, or at least he was until a little ice cream help him get over it :) Ended up being fine, but it was really unfortunate. Obviously would have gone to a different game if we'd known he wasn't playing. I think a lot of folks here are forgetting that baseball is a game, and sports are entertainment. Sure, I guess there's no law that says they have to be upfront with all these things. I also think it's pretty short sighted of the club to do some of these things. I have 91 and 87 memories to sustain my fandom; my boy has literally never seen them win a playoff game. He's a Buxton fan first, not a Twins fan first. And I think the Twins underestimate the fan apathy here especially among young people.
  7. Woof Bronzer
    Thanks! I never knew "a business should be upfront with its customers about its product" would be so controversial!
  8. Woof Bronzer
    Baseball is for fans, fans should know who is playing and who isn't. I'm not asking for his chart.
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    Haha nice!
  10. Woof Bronzer
    I think fans who are considering buying tickets for a game deserve the truth.
  11. Woof Bronzer
    Ok, I get what you are saying. I think we are saying the same thing. I definitely don't think there was a staff wide yank point all year - I mean, I sure hope not :) But I still don't like the approach of saying "X starter is going 5 today" or "2 times through the order only" before the game starts. Let the game play out, and react accordingly. I didn't think this would be so controversial, sorry I wasn't more clear and thanks for the conversation!
  12. Woof Bronzer
    But the sample size for those ERAs is also small. Why count a small sample size when it supports your agenda and disregard it when it doesn't? And it's going to be skewed when you are only going partially through the lineup the 3rd time - you don't have 7/8/9 patsies to pad your ERA. If Gray hits the 3rd time through the order and he's cruising with a decent pitch count, he should absolutely keep pitching! This is what drives me nuts about the rigid kind of analytics being advocated here. Cherrypick stats that fit the narrative, discard those that don't, and - yes, the dreaded "manage by spreadsheet" approach where it's predetermined to yank a pitcher after 2 times through the order, regardless of performance or game context.
  13. Woof Bronzer
    I mean, you said everybody knows this and the numbers show it...maybe it's not as simple and obvious as you stated? And yes, when pitchers aren't allowed to pitch 3rd time through the order much, the sample size is going to be small.
  14. Woof Bronzer
    Do we know this for sure though? Forgive the vague numbers, but last season the Twins had 6 or 7 starts where the starter was pulled in the 5th or earlier with 75 or less pitches after giving up 0 or 1 hit. If there wasn't a predetermined yank point, with all due respect, the manager should have joined the trainer in the bread line!
  15. Woof Bronzer
    My ask for this year is that there is no predetermined "yank point", the Twins go in to starts expecting long starts out of their starters, and the manager evaluates if/when to pull starters based on a combination of how the pitcher is doing, the game situation, the opponents, the status of the bullpen, and finally data on both the starter and the potential reliever that would have to replace the starter.
  16. Woof Bronzer
    Thank you so much for putting these numbers together. I owe you one! I think a deeper dive would be required to really come to a definitive conclusion, but my takeaway is that if you're going to use short starts as a proactive strategy, a very strong bullpen is necessary. The other thing I would really like to see is a more balanced evaluation between "Should we pull the starter?" and "Who are we going to replace the starter with?". Even if a starter is tiring somewhat or facing the dreaded 3rd time thru, he may still be the best option on that day, for that inning/at bat, etc. Thanks again, I really appreciate the discussion!
  17. Woof Bronzer
    Thanks so much for the explanation. I better understand now where you were going with this. Personally, I was talking about specific outcomes. I.e., how did X reliever do on X date after Gray was pulled in X inning. I tried looking and it doesn't appear there is an intuitive way to gather this data, so maybe this is a moot point. But to look at it from your perspective I think you'd need to include the entire bullpen right? Not just the best relievers. Because part of my theory is that pulling starters early taxes the bullpen unnecessarily. In other words it forces you down the road to use lesser quality relievers because the better ones are overworked. But of course, this is hard to quantify too.
  18. Woof Bronzer
    They did the trash can thing in like 120 games - from May onwards in that season.. It wasn't a one time thing. For 5 months Correa woke up every day and decided yep, I'm going to cheat today. And I respectfully disagree on the notion that Correa was too young to know right from wrong. But the OP makes a great point, there are different types of leadership. And like you say, people do make mistakes - I try not to judge people on their worst moments, since I certainly wouldn't want people to judge me based on my worst. So I'm probably being too rigid here, and am open to seeing how this year goes because I do think Correa's in more of a position of leadership now that he's here long term. But I also think the cheating thing is a much bigger deal than you are suggesting and needs to be part of the Correa story.
  19. Woof Bronzer
    Looking forward to it! I think you're right, there are different ways/types of leadership.
  20. Woof Bronzer
    Well, not really. If we wanted to guess what would happen in the future if we were to make a change, we might use FIP. But after the fact we don't need to guess, since we now know what happened - that's ERA. You are using FIP to predict something that already happened. It's like saying 538's March Madness matchup predictor is a more accurate predictor of a game's outcome than the actual outcome of the game. "Yes, Alabama lost, but 538 had them as the favorite to win it all so they're still the favorites in my book." Let me ask, is there a reason you are looking for a certain narrative here? It just seems like you are trying to make the numbers fit a story, rather than let the numbers tell the story. I don't really have a horse in the race, and part of the reason I started posting here is to learn if the data supports some of the things that have concerned me about the organization's direction under this leadership team. Honestly I wanted to be proven wrong - it would make me more opmistic about the future of my favorite club :)
  21. Woof Bronzer
    Respectfully, leaders are paid to lead by example and not make the mistakes. And it's not like we are talking about a one time thing. He cheated over and over again. His reaction to the mistake was to keep making more mistakes until he got caught. This is the opposite of leadership in my opinion.
  22. Woof Bronzer
    Oh I was with you, hotheads gonna hothead and look how it turned out. We were definitely in the minority though.
  23. Woof Bronzer
    Have you spoken to a lot of teams and agents about this? Almost no team or agent is going to publicly rip another organization, so I am wondering how anyone would know this with any certainty. This just sounds like something Minnesotans love to hear because it makes us feel better about the losing - but I'm guessing most fans would trade niceness for a World Series in a mankato minute :)
  24. Woof Bronzer
    I don't know, Correa was knee deep in the cheating scandal. Cheaters aren't leaders. Just my 2 cents.
  25. Woof Bronzer
    To be fair, while he was here the vast majority of fans praised him for his "fire" and "passion." It wasn't until he was gone until this negative narrative emerged.
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