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I’m not at all concerned with it messing up his swing ……. I understand the emotional pull for him to do this in Georgia! Great opportunity. That said, the entire coaching staff & FO will be on sedatives and holding rosaries throughout the contest - he’s been a walking injury for 7 straight years and doing this, to me, doesn’t fit with Team sport ideology from the Player.
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I didn’t read any thread about Wallner other than your arguments that he doesn’t deserve criticism. Not jumping on some bandwagon nor blaming him for Sunday’s outcome. I don’t care about yesterday’s game or Thursday’s game or any other single game ……… he’s been very disappointing nearly every game! Sunday Jax gave up a couple hits and then got snake bit with 3 consecutive toppers/rollers in front of or adjacent to the mound - Topa failed to make many good pitches and blew up on a routine play to 1B. Between them they gave up 5 runs. Wallner isn’t anywhere near the blame for Sunday, IMO……. He’s 50 points below his OPS+ for last year - he’s been disappointing, routinely since his return from IL………after a handful of decent games immediately upon his return. I don’t get the serious defense of his performance? I understand he strikes out (love his power) - still, Clemens has 2 more HR in 28 less AB’s - he’s a waiver pick-up, so not an extremely high bar.
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Kiersey hardly counts - if anybody is stacking him up in an offensive debate, there is no real debate……..Vazquez has to play because of the scheme the Team uses at catcher, defensively. That said, France has tailed off as well & the formerly DFA’d Clemens has never been expected to be an offensive cog……seems tend on to plug a hole. Wallner was supposed to be one of the Top 3-4 performers in the line-up going into the season, offensively…….he’s got 28 more AB’s than Clemens and 8 less RBI. It’s tough to have 8 HR & only 14 total RBI……bad ”recently” has been well over a month.
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I’m assuming that unless the pitcher mistakingly throws out of the Wind-up with Wallner on base, everyone knows Wallner (and most of the rest of the Club) does not have a green light to steal on his own.
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DJL44 - what’s there to disagree about? Wallner is brutal. He’s from Forest Lake and that’s great for fan interest but that’s about his sole contribution lately…….. He’s got 160 AB’s 55% of the way through the season and he’s produced .1 WAR. His OBP is under .300. He has ability for sure - if one can’t put it to use it doesn’t help. Royce Lewis has ability as well. No doubt, the two biggest disappointments of the year, to date. Kody Clemens was a DFA claim and in 138 AB’s he’s produced .8 WAR…….to me, there’s no defending Wallner. I like him, and wish him the absolute best but he’s been not very good for some time!
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Guys with lower OPS than Wallner since he has been back from his pulled leg muscle? ….. ZERO. He’s somewhere between ,195 - .205 BA, & there is no defense for that!
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He did pitch the 9th - it was Sunday afternoon and he threw 2 innings on Friday night and had pitched Tuesday/Wednesday as well.
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Can’t imagine you were searching for McNally & Dobson……..the CF was Paul Blair.
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So, at 29, he’s hitting a HR in 7.8% of his AB’s…..every 12.8 AB. In 3 plus years prior he hit a HR in 3.9% of his AB’s or every 25 AB……his bat speed is up this year………what’s changed?
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Even with Keaschall at 100%, Clemens stays in roster ahead of Kiersey. Larnach - Bader - Buxton - Wallner - Castro - Clemens (RF) is plenty of coverage and it seems to me that Clemens is also the back-up 1B right now. Even at .215 BA he still has some leash……Kiersey pinch runs or plays defense 2-3 days per week and gets a hit about once a month.
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6 for 44 with 4 HR in those 6 hits………I saw the Bomb to Right in Cincinnati in person and last two I’ve seen have been to left field, one in power alley and today’s LF drive………….10 HR since joining TWINS. 29 years old. 376 AB’s before joining Twins - 15 HR 128 AB’s with Twins - 10 HR …….he’s found something here! 🤞
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Do not want to bad mouth the new kid but I don’t think I saw average stuff (SWR has average stuff)……not for a starter. To me, he looked like a more energetic presence that would get Joey Wentz’ innings in the near term. Slider/cutter too often looked like a slower fastball……not much movement. He shows guts/resilience/energy but the talent didn’t appear to be there IMO. 4 innings & 5 earned is not a positive debut. Need Matthews back in couple weeks &/or Ober. Can’t see Adams in more than one more start……”long guy” role. All-star break has never been more needed! 5-2 over remaining games up to the Break gets Team to .500 ………🤞
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2 years at $19M is Top End in my opinion…….can’t let the 2 HR game cloud logic too much. He’s historically good against LH pitching and he can play defense - usually misses chunks of season w/injury (knock on wood) & this year he’s hit RH pitching better and with others injuries, he’s been played more than anticipated. Wallner needs to get his act together or their may need to be a knew approach for ‘26 OF corps.
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He’s been wearing some heat or stimulation wrap on his back since ‘23……..baseball players stats are ebbs & flows……..Bader was great ….. not really good for a month …… stinging the ball lately. CC was brutal through most of May ……. had his Average up to .260 a few days ago ……. has had a rough few games. If he hits .270 going forward (his typical career mark) he’ll be near .265 for the Season. His power is lacking - XBH totals could use a jolt after the Break! He’s playing consistent SS so I don’t really see him as being a glaring issue, especially not going forward.
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Bader, as unfair as it may sound, has most of 3 months to continue to prove his worth & needs to continue to be a positive contributor. If he hits a lull down the stretch the Team may extend their side of the Option and Bader may accept for continuity and $$ certainty? Twins may also move on to youth if he’s borderline? He seems to have found something at the plate in ‘25 ……. his defense is as was advertised. I didn’t like his signing, and while he’s limited v. RH pitching, I’d like him around in ‘26! He seems to be having fun in Mpls. - need to win a bit more to keep his interest going forward.
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Varland was cruising and don’t want to burn two best guys in a tie game …….gotta score in 8th to see Duran in 9th. Not always the case but Varland threw 2 innings with 19 total pitches. Don’t think that on July 4th their usage has anything to do with trade deadline moves……just trying to set up best opportunity to win the Series by having them available next two days, IMO……..hoping Team can score in 9th after Lou goes out & holds them.
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My comment clearly said “…..,after they got to 2 runs……move runner to 2B with no outs….”. I understand the reluctance to bunt to move runs into scoring position based on statistics - real data. However, the average runs scored from FIRST with NO OUTS is averaged across every situation, all teams, and includes 1-2-3-4-5 hitters being at the plate in that situation as well as the bottom of the order. Bader has very good speed, and is batting 9th for a reason……..bunt & move the runner and put pressure on the defense with your speed. It’s not hindsight if one wants a player to do it in real time. Wallner bunting is never a good idea…..not sure where that came from? Bunting a player to 3B is never a good idea unless Team needs one run in bottom of extra innings…… That strategy was never stated nor inferred. Not sure where you come up with the twisted view of the point I was trying to make? Work on the comprehension skills perhaps?
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They had just won 8 straight - they had two less wins than the Twins. We aren’t very good either. As a separate thought/comment, how can anyone feel good about what the offense was able to produce? At least 3 times, after getting to 2 runs, Team had a guy on first base ready to be moved to 2B with a bunt to add an insurance run and it never happened. Strikeouts and a couple double plays later, we still had 2 runs. Harrison Bader (regressing for a month) batting 9th with Top of order behind him …….he has good speed……..no outs & runner on 1B ……… BUNT! I protect Rocco about 90% of the time but this, to me, was idiotic! …………Happened 2 other times in last 4 innings. When is Wallner going to St. Paul?
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Completely agree Mike!! The Manager isn’t holding the offense back to scoring 2 or less in 29 of 85 games. That’s pathetic execution by the guys in the box. Why the hell does anyone care or comment about pitching from the starter or decisions by the Manager when the Team gives up only 2 runs and has only 2 hits? The hitters generally suck as a group!1 Correa is close to .700 OPS and hitting near .260 - after his first 6 weeks, he’s brought his numbers up and will continue to do so. Castro had a pretty blah first 2 months and he’s really contributing. Buxton, nothing needs to be said, pretty good! Bader is regressing, expected after his first 6 weeks. Lee - France - Larnach - Jeffers all OK to positive results……..not much heavy lifting day to day though. LEWIS - WALLNER, practically nothing from them to date. Arguably, the #3 & #4 spots going into the season……..Wallner may need to go to St. Paul again soon? Could really use Keaschall’s energy & talent ….,,hope he’s back before end of July!
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I don’t buy the “Ober’s injured” narrative at this point. He may have a physical issue but that isn’t what makes a guy throw 4-5 unacceptable pitches in a 90 pitch outing. He gave up at least 3 hits on good pitches that hitters just got lucky on by getting the bat in the ball. So, fortune hasn’t been with him lately. Also, hitters are not missing his mistakes - at all. Yesterday, for the most part, his fastball and changeup-up looked to be working in concert. His slider was up and down and lack of command and lack of movement with that pitch was most of his problems. He hung a change for a homer. …….. I just don’t think an IL stint helps with command……particularly when the command issues are 6-10% of the pitches thrown. All pitchers miss spots repeatedly in outings, Ober just doesn’t have the stuff to miss by much and it’s eating him up right now. IL or skipped start prior to All-Star break makes sense for mental re-set if nothing else.
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The best record in baseball is ahead of them in the Division - Tigers. There are probably 4-5 Teams ahead of them for Wild Card but none more than 4 or 5 games. Not sure why winning the Division is their only path to the Playoffs, with any respectability? IMO, if there’s embarrassment, it’s from not making the Playoffs at all.
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I think 2 outs at the time? If Vazquez gets to 2B - pinch runner with two outs may make sense. No need to get Jeffers out there for an inning if Kiersey goes in to be at 1B with 2 outs. Tighter game and extra run is critical, probably yes. Why is Kiersey on the Roster? That’s a separate, good question. He’s 7 for 67 with a .143 OBP. He’s not Rickey on the bases and not Clemente nor Mays in the OF…………..w/o having those traits, his .107 BA should have him demoted immediately for nearly any other viable option at the plate! Team has 5 other options in the OF on roster.
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LEE - I was not a real promoter of him 6 weeks ago - too much soft contact, no power, slow, etc. - have been disappointed after all the hype. His defense shines at times - certainly good enough for every day player going forward. His HR potential is showing with experience but more importantly he’s hitting line drives. His average is up to .280. Gotta give him credit, he seems to be figuring it out and from both sides of the plate!! That said, he should be fined and the 1B coach should too for the ridiculous base running after his line drive to Right Center - France (probably slowest starter) went first to third and the throw was made there………when the CF is making a play there Lee has to at least be 3/4 steps around 1B…..at least. The ball rolls away from third baseman, slowly, maybe 20 feet. Lee should have back pedaled into 2B - I was astonished he was still at 1B. Broad angle replay shows him heading back to the bag at 1B as the ball is in the air to 3B. What is the coach doing/watching? Terrible baseball by them both!!! Clemens gets HBP so it’s never an issue - doesn’t make it right. Castro walk, stolen base, advance on wild pitch in same game……. Buxton walk, stolen base, advance on FC, scores on sac bunt in same game…… It’s not the Manager’s fault Lee didn’t get to 2B it’s guys doing there job right whether they have speed or not - base coaching with some awareness and energy - do your jobs
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Yes, Nitpicking hindsight. 5 2/3 of zero runs is enough for a guy trying to build confidence. He couldn’t get the last guy out - Numerous pitches with 2 strikes and 2 outs, guy hit a hit……….don’t need a fatigue HR there. to the next guy. Lefty comes in & gets them to PH and gets them to the 7th. Hoping Festa could have gotten out of that in 6th AND pitched another inning is a real stretch …….MORE could be “hoped for” from every starter in every game.
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These Tigers are a little different - Since last August they’re as good as it gets. 🤞
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