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Trade them both - give them a chance to fully develop as major leaguers. Besides, Falvey should maximize their trade value before Rocco screws them up further.
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Just saw the announcement on Cole. My immediate thought was Lopez to the Yanks. Haha.
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Meanwhile, the least encouraging trend is that Pablo can’t get anyone out.
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Gasper, Bader and France all having strong springs. Meanwhile, the agents for Lee, Miranda, Julien, and Martin have Falvey on speed dial begging to be traded.
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Bullpen depth evaporating quickly.
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Usually I love to read lists like this. But with this organisation, I’m finding it less worthwhile to invest in the hype. It looks like the pendulum has shifted toward pitching. That’s probably a positive because a) good pitching beats good hitting and b) it’s probably easier, at least for the Twins, to transition from the minors to the majors as a pitcher than a position player. Or said another way, it’s harder for Rocco to screw up a pitching prospect. I’m just waiting for the article about when one of our position player prospects, or, for that matter, any one we even trade a prospect for, makes an all star team (congrats to Rooker, btw). Heck, even one who just becomes an average everyday starter playing 150 games, isn’t platooned, or signs a decent second contract would be good enough. Has anyone brought up under Rocco ever achieved that? Jeffers would be the closest. Until then, at least with Rocco at the helm, I’ll save investing my emotional and time sports team capital for other things besides the constant hyping of the likes of Jenkins, ERod, and Keaschall. I’ve wasted enough of that capital only to watch our supposed “young core” wither after they most deservedly get promoted to the show. I guess Falvey’s hope is that I invest that capital each year in his one year veteran reclamation projects who steal innings and ABs from all those prospects who have been hyped, and really rightfully so when we all think about it. What’s the saying? “Fool me a dozen times shame on you. Fool me any more, shame on me.”
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Is it too late to sign some washed up vet to a minimum deal to take the reps in the field and at the plate from our prospects? Clearly none of the usual suspects are worth investing in and/or seeing if they are actually suitable for the job. That seems to be the modus operandi around here. Btw, as an aside, how’s that Wallner leading off experiment going? lol. I’d bet Wallner’s mentality has always been about driving in runs and/or hitting a long ball. Now he’s being pressured into thinking like an on-base guy. Messing with his head. Rocco will ruin him yet.
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Thank you. Someone points out the obvious. We've outspent every team in our division over the past many recent years but have arguably only outperformed one (the ChiSox). Why is that? Isn’t spending supposed to be correlated with winning? Nearly every TDer makes this claim. It gets worse too: we not only have outspent our division competitors on major leaguers, but we also arguably have the best minor league system as well. Yet, again, we underperform. Why? The answer is as obvious as the noses on our faces. The Indians, Royals and even the Tigers are better “managed” at the major league level. They get more out of less because they transition their young players better, make overall better roster construction decisions (i.e. free agent spend, trades, commitment to young players) and are better managed in the dugout on a day to day basis. What else could explain it? What else could explain why those teams spend less, but win more? Imagine if Terry Francona had been our manager for the past decade. My fellow TDers - it’s not the money per se. It’s what you do with it. Keep up your pipe dream of some uber wealthy egotist willing to come in and throw cash into the incinerator year after year. Face it - our market will never, ever, ever be able to sustain that type of model on a consistent basis. Rich people just aren’t that dumb. No, the key to winning is better “management”: 1) capitalising on our advantages in minor league player development through better transitioning top prospects into true major leaguers; 2) better results from outside the system player acquisition efforts (free agency and trades); 3) win a handful more games a year by better managing from the bench; and 4) knowing when to go for it (spend more selectively) when the opportunity is there. That’s the recipe for success for a franchise in a division like ours and a market like ours.
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Wait until the season starts. He will lead off a few games, then show up at the park to find out he’s hitting seventh. Then he will jump around the order a lot never knowing when he’s going to hit and never finding a groove. Though it may not matter as much when the opposing manager sends him to bench in the fifth or six inning by bringing in a lefty. The purpose of this article may in fact be to demonstrate how poorly the Twins position player roster is constructed. Wallner is your best lead-off candidate? Followed by a guy who most TDers don’t even think should be on the team. Then the next guy up Falvey and Rocco brought in a struggling vet to take his innings. Fourth is the quintessential utility man. It’s pitching or bust this year.
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Yep, and I can’t wait to turn on the TV everyday to watch France and Bader. I’m so invested in them as a fan. Just like I was with Gallo, Margot, et al. So exciting. So much fun.
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Jeffers came up under Rocco. He’s been a position player success for sure. I’ll give that one to this regime (even though it’s not like Rocco had much choice on which position he’d play so it was hard to ruin his defense and/or confuse him). Lewis has been a disappointment even with the injury excuse. The fact is that he is a below average 3B and still hasn’t found his true position. The CF decision by Rocco was a disaster for more than just the obvious reason. But, yes, he’s the closest. But has his potential to date been attained? Will it ever? I love Wallner. Love to watch him hit and throw. But, yes, he still seems destined to be platooned and not get those ABs (and especially high leverage ABs) against lefties.
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Yep. The sooner the better for all of them: Miranda, Larnach, Julien, Martin, Lee, Wallner, Keaschall and ERod. Each of these “top”/promising prospects will be subject to the signing of a washed up vet as long as they are a Twin. None, I repeat, none of them will ever reach their full potential as ball players under Rocco. That’s just the plain truth. BTW, I like each of these youngsters and hope they get their wish for a real chance like Speer, Rooker, and CES. Please trade one of them to the Reds and Terry Francona.
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What Does An Edouard Julien Bounceback Look Like?
Nashvilletwin replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
What does Julien’s bounce back look like? Starting 2B or 1B for the ChiSox, Reds, A’s, Rays, or Rockies, etc. and a 2026 All Star nod.- 33 replies
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19 Questions for 19 Twins Hitting Prospects in 2025
Nashvilletwin replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Question 20: In the spirit of true positional flexibility - an almost required trait among any Twins prospect hoping to make the big club - when will we see Jenkins, ERod, Keaschall, and/or Winokur start catching? Think about how cool that would be - outfield one day, infield the next and catcher the next. Rocco could really ramp up his platoon opportunities to a whole new level as well. Being a mediocre defender at more than one position goes way up in value if catcher is one of those. Sadly, it might be too late for Miranda, Julien, Larnach, Martin and/or Lee to become a catcher. We really need a sarcasm font….- 23 replies
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What does France’s signing mean for Miranda? It means Miranda’s agent is asking (again?) for a trade. Btw, same for Julien….
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I can think of four reasons - all of which happen in the real world. And the eventual buyer of the Twins might be looking at a combination of all four as reasons for their purchase. 1. The buyer thinks he can effect operational changes that can improve financial performance. This is most common. 2. The buyer thinks the capital return on the investment will increase even if cash flow is negative annually. This is common for tech companies and professional sports teams. Private equity buyers often combine #1 and #2 plus leverage (debt) in the hopes of seeing their exit multiple expand and turbocharge their equity returns. 3. The buyer sees the business as a loss leader that will enable him to achieve greater returns in related businesses. This can be tenuous, but, re the Twins, the stadium and tv rights might be useful in this regard. 4. The buyer gets his “return” from non-financial sources. Could be ego, civic pride, goodwill, or just plain fun running/owning it. There may be others, but in my experience, these have been the four most common I’ve seen.
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This is 100% correct, apparently for the Pohlads. The goal is to find a buyer who has a vision for making operational improvements to the franchise and/or gets a “return” from owning the business other than purely financial. TDers (and the Pohlads too, haha) are hoping a Stevie Cohen equivalent buys the club. I guess it’s possible, but it’s really not the reality.
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Mike, did you read the post? Two things can be true: the Twins can lose money annually on a cash basis AND they can sell their ownership position for a huge, billion $ plus gain. Right? And they certainly are not selling out of charity. As my posts make clear, they probably think they have more productive uses (and who knows what those are: property, pay down debt, family dividend, etc.) of their capital going forward than trying to compete as a small/mid market team in this environment. They can see the trends.
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I’ve been castigated so many times on this site for my claim that the Twins organization in its entirety lose money - tens of millions annually - on a CASH basis. I’m not crying for the Pohlads - the equity value of their initial investment has grown substantially. I’m also not here to debate whether that has proved to be a better investment than other alternatives available at the time of purchase or over the years. However, I would argue at this point in time it’s very possible the Pohlads see the unrealised equity growth in small/mid market baseball franchises waning while the annual cash requirements (and cash losses) continue to grow. That dynamic decreases IRRs and it’s quite possible that they see better uses or have other needs for their capital. We will see how this all shakes out. But my real point is that we shouldn’t hold out hope for somebody to come in here to blow money so they can satisfy their egos. With what’s going on in LA and NY (one reason why equity values for small market teams are slowing or falling), the amount of that type of egotistical wager just keeps going up. We are better off developing controllable (i.e. cheap) superior major leaguers. So my ultimate point is that Falvey and Rocco stink at that.
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Agree. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The only way for a small/mid market team like the Twins to create any sort of competitive advantage is through the ability to draft, develop, and transition prospects into controllable, superior major league ballplayers. Wishing for a super rich sugar daddy owner willing to annually lose tens, if not hundreds, of millions to try to compete with teams with more lucrative markets is farcical. It just astounds me how most TDers hold out hope for an egotistical owner willing to burn cash year in and year out. And, yes, the Pohlads did that. Maybe one will show up, and if so, will be politically acceptable to our rabble as well. But don’t count on it; that’s a pipe dream. There are way fewer irrational billionaires around than people think.

