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  1. TwinsDr2021
    Gonsalves put up pretty much identical numbers at AA when he was 21, if you take out the last 4 starts for Romero in 2017 when he apparently dealing with something, his numbers at AA where not that different and he was 22. Mejia's numbers at AA in 2015 at 22 weren't all that far off (less K's), at age 23 Meyer was pitching pretty well at AA, The rest were mostly just names, high draft picks, etc.. but also pitchers that were supposed to be part of a Twins future. I also can agree Winder will probably end up a better major league pitchers than the rest of them, my initial point was those 54 innings were just that - 54 innings at AA when you are 24. I hope he steps it up in spring training is really good for the 100-120 innings he will pitch this year and be a spring board to a successful major league career and isn't just another name the fans were dreaming would be part of a twins future rotation.
  2. TwinsDr2021
    Thanks and good work, they seem old for where they are ranked, I would hope to see players like this a little bit younger, but good arms no matter their age are a positive.
  3. TwinsDr2021
    So we are going to throw out those 4 games, velocity and command drop, not worry about it and say he is can't miss? Again I like Winder and think he will be a solid major league pitcher, but isn't using 54 innings over two year considered SSS? The guy is 25 and has no success above AA when history shows the majority of good pitchers have at least had some success or time in the majors by age 25. With that being said I hope he pitches to the most of his limited innings at the major league level this year with a bunch of success.
  4. TwinsDr2021
    I like Winder and probably wouldn't trade him, but you just compared 54.2 innings to a whole bunch more. Kind of cherry picked there, how about comparing AAA numbers?
  5. TwinsDr2021
    You are correct 24 isn't old, but he only pitched 23 innings last year, after pitching none in 2020, Having him be a starter next year, what will his innings be capped at? So his age 24 season will be stretching him out, his age 25 season you could expect with no set back to be up around 120 innings maybe? Why can't you do they same thing in MN in the bullpen and in 2023 as a possible starter if he has proved he can pitch more innings. I am just sick of listening how great the Twins prospects are, but at the same time having them in the minors and people wanting them to stay in the minors. I was saying Graterol should have been up in 2018, the dude can throw 100 why waste those pitches in the minors if he will probably end up in the pen anyway. The Same with Canterino, if he stuff is so great (which I believe it is) why not have him pitching against the best. If he has the stuff to become a starter it will work out.
  6. TwinsDr2021
    Meyer, May, Jay, Stewart, Gonsalves, Romero, Jorge, Thorpe, Melotakis, Slegers, Meija, all Twins prospects and besides May what have the Twins gotten for them? Couldn't trade Romero, Gonsalves or Thorpe in the late teens, because they were going to be the next set of twins starters, This is why people are OK with trading some pitching prospects.
  7. TwinsDr2021
    Can we stop comparing the Twins prospects to Hall of Famers. Martin will be 23 in March, Yount was playing his 6th season at 23, and was two years away from an MVP year. Would I trade Martin, sure, but it would have to be be for Major League pitcher with at least two years of control, or for a pitching prospect like Max Meyer.
  8. TwinsDr2021
    Liked the article, I think the grades seem a bit high for the pitchers. Ryan pitched 26.1 innings, to me that has to be incomplete grade, Ober was good, but compared to other rookie pitchers in the league the grade kind of seem silly. For example - Alek Manoah pitched 19 more innings, had a better ERA in the same amount of starts, then compare him to Trevor Rogers, Luis Garcia, Shane McClanahan or Anderson. To me the last 3 are A's, Monaoh, A-, Ober seems more like a B,
  9. TwinsDr2021
    He is 24, so I don't see the need to have him stretched out in the minors. I would tell him you are going to be the 4th inning relief pitcher, and he he succeeds there move him later in the games, an/or start giving him a chance for 2 innings.
  10. TwinsDr2021
    I think in 2022 the Twins will start seeing some real results of the trade, but IMO, you can grade it along the way. 2019 - F, 2020 - C -, 2021 - D, these grades don't mean it was a bad trade, it just means they haven't returned any or much results for the Twins so far. 22 and beyond could and should be B or better, meaning in the end it was/will be a successful trade.
  11. TwinsDr2021
    IMO, the best thing that could happen for the Twins is another short season, either Covid or lockout. Run a few young pitches out there that get hot and don't have to sustain it over more than 8 - 10 starts. Make the Wild card win a game or tow and look like geniuses.
  12. TwinsDr2021
    Looks like they road hot starts from Perez, 7-2 3.71 ERA on June First 1st, Odo 10-2 2.24 ERA on June 16th, Berrios 8-2 3.14 ERA on June 7th, Gibson 6-2 3.75 ERA on June 2nd. Pineda struggled a bit at the beginning and then had a decent run until, well..... If you look at their ERA's in June and what they finished with something was different after June, well except for Berrios his ERA stayed about the same. They road Duffey, May, Littell, Harper and Rogers in the pen.
  13. TwinsDr2021
    Montas is controlled though 2023 (that is two years) , Pablo Lopez though 2024, Sixto Sanchez though 2026, Max Meyer though whenever since he hasn't pitched in the majors. So those wouldn't be considered 1 year, but Bassitt is a free agent after next year, which means one year, and if the Twins aren't competing it actually would be a half year, since they would trade him at the deadline. Luis Castillo like Montas is controlled though 2023, but if you can't get him to extend he would probably be traded at the next deadline as well, because he would have move value then the next year deadline. I am not giving up one of the top pitching prospects for 1 year of anybody, for two years I would be will to move a Duran or Canterino, plus a position player or two.
  14. TwinsDr2021
    Is it possible to negotiate with a player prior to trading for him? If so, I would probably do the Bassitt trade as you listed. If not no way I am giving up anybody in Col A or B (because no chance they take all of Donaldson's contract), and currently they don't really have a replacement for Kepler, they aren't swapping contracts for Sano, and Arraez should be able to bring back a better player/contract, so it would could down to the bottom half of Col C, and if the Twins aren't good again and have to trade him at the deadline, they probably couldn't get back equal value to what they traded for him. So basically I am not trading for any pitcher with 1 year left of control, unless that pitcher comes along with somebody that has 3 or more. Last year would have been the year to trade for a pitcher with one year of control to go along with Berrios, Maeda, Pineda, Happ and Dobnak, probably won't have worked but I wouldn't have been upset if we lost a prospect because they attempted to shore up the pitching staff with a lineup seemingly ready to win.
  15. TwinsDr2021
    This makes sense if you are talking about a complete rebuild for 2024-25 and in that case why not add Donaldson and Maeda to the list, because you can't trade all those guys for players that need to be on the 40 or most of the 40 will be minor league guys, so you will be trading them for really young guys that won't need to be on the 40 man for at least a year or maybe two or more (that is why the yanks traded Cave to the Twins, they got a guy with upside and won't require a 40 man spot for years). And if this FO is going to a complete rebuild, I am out on them and the Twins.
  16. TwinsDr2021
    Well that talk is silly, Now maybe if they would signed a couple Ray, Gausman, Stroman or Rodríguez for example, then sure go out and trade for another starter with a year or two of control and give up a prospect like Larnach/Jeffers or somebody else to make a real run at a title. Trying to build a rotation out of FA's and trading prospects for pitchers with a little control is no way to have continued success.
  17. TwinsDr2021
    solid logic, but trading away assets to get other assets that may help in the short and long term works as well. Look at the Odo and Maeda trades, neither were made with one year in mind. That is why IMO they aren't trading significant assets for one or two year players. They may trade an asset like Gil for them, but in no way are they giving up any top prospects. The big difference with MN and Oak, is Oak either figures out how to develop pitching or go out and get pitching that mostly works out and they can get all they can while under control and trade them before they walk away for more money. MN has shown no ability to develop pitchers, yet?
  18. TwinsDr2021
    I would say there is no chance of the two trades you mentioned, they are not giving Larnach up for 1 year control of 33 year old pitcher. that is the type of trade you do when you are shoring up a rotation for a contending team, not starting a rotation. The other trade, no way as well on two years of control of a 32 year old for possibly your starting catcher and maybe the best pitching prospect in the system. If the Twins trade for a pitcher this offseason and I hope they do, it is going to along the lines of a pitcher they believe will end up in the pen (Duran?) or young pitchers years away. That has been their MO the whole time.
  19. TwinsDr2021
    As is I don't see a way for him to make the team out of spring training, unless he has been working on Left Field all off season.
  20. TwinsDr2021
    A bunch of people are going to hate or be real sad on your realistic view of the prospects. and lets not forget Ryan only has 26.2 major league innings, and Ober has only pitched in 20 MLB games
  21. TwinsDr2021
    This is the question any decent reporter should be asking the Twins FO!
  22. TwinsDr2021
    Can you help me again with that names that have been in the Tampa stable?
  23. TwinsDr2021
    I think he is correct, it isn't a rebuild or a retool. The offensive is mostly set with Vets with a young guy sprinkled around. and the pitching staff is hope and prayer that some of these prospects work out. Besides SWR and Balazovic, they are fairly old to be considered high end prospects so you can't really wait much longer to get them into the majors. Is that really a prototype to follow? Baker was the only pitcher that ended up with a career WAR of above 5 as a starting pitcher. The missed the playoffs with Mauer (5.6 WAR), Morneau (4.2), Span (4.2), Gomez (2.1), Punto (2.1), Casilla(1.6), Harris (1.2), and a cast of others with a Plus WAR. Hernández was a misstep, but the biggest misstep was not mixing in some good vets to go with a good offense and young pitchers. The gave Bonser 118.1 innings with a 5.93 ERA Guerrier 76.1 with a 5.19, Hernández 139.2 with a 5.48, Brian Bass 68.1 with a 4.87, and Perkins (1.3 WAR) was just OK. To me this is an example of why they should bring in more than Bundy, kind of seems like history repeating it self.
  24. TwinsDr2021
    Agreed with giving him some time, the issue might be he turns 25 in February and the next prospect might over take him as the future all star in the making. My hope is he has a good spring, starts off hot in AAA and is up mid season holding his own.
  25. TwinsDr2021
    There are many things I wish Kepler did better, but if you show most fans his numbers (without his name attached) for the last 4 years and say he will make less than 7 million each of the next two years, he would be the type of player the Twins should be trading for not trading away. Agreed great job Lucas. Kind of sounds like the plan for pitching this year?
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