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  1. agreed if that was in the majors but it isn't the majors. Based on minor league OBP the Twins could just put Prato, Julien, Lewis, Wallner, Stevenson, Celestino, Martin, Tony Wolters and Larnach and they would be the highest scoring in the league, no?
  2. agreed Correa does sound like a leader, but also a guy that knows he is taking up around 25% of the payroll, can he really complain about payroll when he is making that much, I say no unless he was promised he would never be taking up that amount. agree with DJL above why would the Twins lock up Ober, when they have him locked up for 4 more season, seem like a team trying to right the payroll wouldn't do. As for most of the rest, I believe most have been talked about quite a bit, minus colonoscopies which I think doesn't meet the standards on this site.
  3. Martin is 25 with a 256//388/361 minor league slash line. Arraez was in the majors at age 22 and had a slash line in the minors of 331/385/413 (and remember that was ages 17-21) Julien was in the majors at age 24 (and one could argue that he could have been up earlier with the numbers he put up at age 23 in AA 300/441/490) Martin shouldn't be compared with these two, it is a huge disservice to them and setting Martin up for failure even if he ends up been a average major league player. Martin has put up a great OBP but not so great AVE and SLG in leagues where players are putting up video games numbers. Being the 5th player in the draft in 2020 already has him looking going down the bust path, so why would we set him up for more failure by comparing him to these two. IMO he compares more to Nick Gordon with a better eye.
  4. Stephen Gonsalves pitched 1 inning yesterday for the Dodgers with zero runs and 3 k's.
  5. Madrigal is about 2 years older and going into his 5th major league season (Of course that is on the White who probably have more room on the roster, compared to the Twins) but at the age of 22 played in A+, AA, AAA with a slash of .311/.377/.414 and was in the majors at 23 and slashed .340/.376/.369 so I wouldn't say it is fair to either of these guys to say it is a great comparison.
  6. IMO, you don't need to worry about another year of control for a 25 year (in one month) old with a minor league slash line of 256/388/361. I get that for a 23 year old Lee, The title of the article is lets focus on what he is and what he is a older decent to good prospect that has a good OBP in the MINORS that comes mostly from walks and not a high BA like say Arraez (who was much, much younger) and that doesn't play usually play well in the majors . At this point he looks like a 2nd utility type player behind castro and the type of prospect that am OK with being the last man on the roster. I really, really hope he proves me wrong and over the winter figured out to use his bat control for more hitting. To put some perspective on it of the guys in St. Paul that had over 150 at bats his OPS was 12th (if you up the at bats to 250 it was 8th and barely ahead of Celestino, Contreras) and OBP was 6th (behind Celestino) and barely ahead of the likes of Tony Wolters, Larnach, and Keirsey. EDIT: I will add a lot of these same arguments were being made last year.
  7. 100% agree he isn't a fit for the Twins, but Meh? 4 time gold glove winner, and has WAR of 4.4,3.5,3.5,1.2(2020), 7.8,7.6,3.2 for a total of 31.2 in 7 seasons and will turn 31 in a couple of months. To be honest none of the players besides Bellinger interested me and he didn't at the cost that has been talked about.
  8. I would argue this team looks a lot like the 21 Twins, Swap out Sano for AK (do we really have higher hopes for AK than Sano that year?) Swap out Polanco for Julien (same question), swap out Donaldson (his WAR was 3.2) for Lewis (I do hope Lewis outperforms Donaldson but by how much?, Correa way better than Simmons, Outfield Kepler/Buxton/Larch vs Kepler/Buxton/Wallner (Buxton was coming off a pretty good 20 and a not good 23), Jeffers/Garver vs Jeffers/Vazquez, and Arraez and the turtle. Rotation: Maeda coming off a 2nd place cy young finish, Berrios, Pineda, Ober, Happ (who I think all/most of us thought would be viable starter, Shoe, Dobnak, Jax, Thorpe, and what was supposed to be a solid pen, Rogers, Colome, Thielbar, Duffey, Alcala, Robles, So taking a looks I think the expectation of the offense was higher in 2021, the rotation a smidge in favor of this year, bullpen again a smidge in this years favor. With that said lets hope for health this year and things should be fine, I get real worried if Buxton goes down, and Lopez or Ryan or Ober go down for an extended period, and this bullpen isn't what people are saying it is.
  9. Couldn't one say the Fans did pay by paying 75% of the cost of Target field?
  10. "But beyond that, we’re also just trying to right-size our business.” Fair enough Jim, as a family we have decided to right size our budget and not spend our entertainment money at target field. I will always be a twins fan and won't leave for another team but like the two years prior my son and I will be attending other teams minor league games. (My son is becoming a Blue Jays fan because of that and the fact that we haven't seen the Twins on TV in years) Last year we went to two of the last three Twins spring training games because going into the year it felt like the team cared about its fans by putting together one of the better team in my lifetime (minus the Gallo situation), not that this years team isn't looking good, it is, it has a ton of potential but with comments like that it makes it hard to spend my money on the team.
  11. One thing I found in common with the King, Pablo, and Sandy. all three were pitching over 100 innings at an early age and in the low minors. If you don't let these guys pitch a bunch in the low minors and where they should dominate and learn to develop a little against lesser competition, and instead bring them along slowly with low pitch counts, innings one step at a time then teams will be forced to move them to pen before their clock runs out.
  12. IMO, it is because some only see the home town team through rose-tinted glasses and see those that try to be objective or realistic as just whining.
  13. agreed and if Paddack is on a inning count, wouldn't it best to spread out his first starts while he gets built up?
  14. You can't compare starting pitchers getting better and relief pitchers. Completely different things. I will argue that starting pitchers after or around 27/28 don't really change unless they come up with a new pitch or the reason they weren't all that great prior was health related. Older pitchers just don't all of a sudden start dominating teams deep into games for an extended period of time. It doesn't happen and if it does it is the exception to the rule. The reason he is being considered is, he has now done it multiple years in a row while improving, he is now the ace of the staff of the second place finisher, and lets be completely honest the starting pitching in the American league with Gray and Ohtani gone doesn't leave many names exiting names but he is worthy of being mentioned with those names. (Cole, Gausman, Valdez, Burnes and Lopez). IMO Cole is far an away the favorite and I believe Vegas agrees, but I will be cheering for Lopez, Ryan, Ober, Duran for a 1,2, 3, 4 finish! (in any order)
  15. I think most playoff type teams have the equivalent of those 3.
  16. After his May 13th start where he went 6 innings 0 ER, 1 BB, 10K his ERA stood at 2.16 The rest of the reason from that point on was 5.56. He had a stretch between May 30th and June 16th that wasn't great. he had a stretch between June 27th and August 2nd. And a his last 3 starts that weren't good. Some could say the last 5 since those two were less than 5 innings but only 2 ER. So if you want to say the sole reason he wasn't the cy young award winner (because he would have been if his last 19 starts were like his first 10) was injury, go for it and all I am saying is it isn't the sole reason.
  17. How about this in 2022 on June 14th his ERA was 2.81 and made its way up to 4.05 (9/7) before ending at 3.55. On June 10th 2023 his ERA was 2.98, and made its way up to 4.21(9/6) before ending up at 4.51. So the big difference between 22 and 23 was mostly how he ended the season in Sept and the injury could have played a role?
  18. I have been around TD for many years, and I believe that "Young" is used when people want/hope/believe a player to get better. For example Nick Gordon (28)is young because there is the hope he figures it out and gets better but Castro (26/27) isn't young because the belief this is who he is. Julien, Martin, Miranda Lewis, AK, Larnach, Wallner are not what I would consider young guys, compared to what other players their ages have accomplished in the majors (Acuna, Soto, Kirk, Vlad, Bichette, Tatis for examples) but on this site I would say most consider them young because of the want/hope/believe they will all get better as players. Shane Bieber is like 40 days older than Ober, but I say with confidence nobody thinks Bieber is young but I have read on here Ober still is. Same with the Correa example above, he is only 29 but nobody thinks he is young because the expectation isn't that he is going to get better, the hope is he doesn't get worse and nobody is hoping Julien, Martin, Miranda, Lewis, AK, and Wallner just stay the same or get worse because they will have failed. So se pretend they are young.
  19. IMO, Larnach is the guy, he is 27 and there really is no reason to have a 27 year old fielder on the 40 man in the minors. Martin is 25 and there really is no reason to have a 25 year old rookie sitting the on the bench. Martin starts off in the minors and the Twins hope he is so good he has to be brought up, and then figure out where to play him.
  20. I was replying to a comment that said his complete game shutout may have caused the not so great numbers after and my point was that doesn't explain the 4 previous games. Pitchers have bad stretches, it just seems weird to blame one on one thing and another on just normal baseball.
  21. Sorry, I didn't know when you typed "Pablo sure changed a bunch" you weren't talking about the results for the season. His last 4 starts of September with Miaim he pitched 25.66 innings with an ERA of 2.1 His last 4 starts of September with Min he pitched 23.33 innings with an ERA of 4.24 I like Pablo and I liked the trade for Pablo, but this idea that somehow what he did last year was something amazingly different than what he did in 22 is just not correct. Do I think Pablo will even be better this year, I do, I love that he seemed to figure out this starting pitching thing at age 26, improved again at age 27 and should be moving into his prime years 28-31 with some momentum.
  22. What defines a bunch? 14 innings in the same amount of starts, a drop of .09 ERA, .3 increase in hits per 9, a decline of .5 in walks per 9, WAR increase of .4 or an increase of 2.2 K's per 9. I would say K's per 9 was a bunch, and maybe that was the reason for 14 more innings, but changed a bunch?
  23. IMO, baseball better find a way to get him in the Hall. After Verlander, Greinke, Scherzer and Cole the rest of the major league pitchers are going to have a hard time getting to Santana's numbers. (Maybe WAR but not the counting numbers)
  24. IMO, Cole is easily the front runner for the CY Young. He is durable (30, 33, 33 starts) he strikes out guys (243, 257, 222) , he pitches innings (181,33, 200,66, 209) and he wins games (16,13,15). On top of Cy young finishes of 5, 2, 4, 2, 9, 1 the last 6 years. Also we haven't really see that Twins pitcher really make a improvement over there best year being the year before. (Gray's really only improvement last year compared to the year before was innings/health) I hope Lopez changes that trend or at least just pitches like he did last year.
  25. Maybe it had to do with that game, but that doesn't explain the 4 games prior to that were he had an ERA over 6. I like Ryan but I don't think 27/28 year old pitchers change all that much without adding a new really good pitch. I think he is who he is a pitcher that pretty consistently pitches into (and though) the 6 inning with some games of brilliance and some clunkers, will end the season with a record above .500 and an ERA between 3.5 - 4.
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