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  1. TwinsDr2021
    "Matthews and Festa are very similar in my eyes, as they’ll both start the year in the 2025 rotation" Interesting take, who is leaving the rotation? or do you think they will go with a six man rotation? Lopez, Ober, Ryan, SWR? If the go with them two, probably means they traded somebody and their depth is all unproven, to me that makes next year another 21 or 22, not really competing for a division title. I agree @bean5302 the 2025 rotation as of now is Lopez, Ryan, Ober, Paddack, Woods-Richardson I can't believe the Twins will put $7.5 million dollar Paddack in the pen. When is the last time the Twins spent more than 5 million on a pen arm? (Reed in 2018?)
  2. TwinsDr2021
    In Rocco's defense he has learned and gotten better, the problem is by the time he has learned it baseball has moved on to the next thing. I have said it before when the other teams announcers make fun of your moves, say how elementary the team is and how it is fairly easy to manage against, things are not going well for you.
  3. TwinsDr2021
    The following day will be all the great things Rocco has done for Wallner, Larnach, AK, Miranda, Lewis, Julien, and Martin. And then use Gordon as example as well. The day after will be it isn't Rocco's fault that Steer and Rooker were traded.
  4. TwinsDr2021
    If the Owners are trying to turn the fans away from this team and hoping attendance goes down again, Then yes they made the right decision. It is strange people seem to forget that 21 and 22 happened when the Twins had two of their highest ever payrolls. I don't care if they hired a new manager and he did the same exact things as Rocco this was the wrong move. Nobody can convince me otherwise.
  5. TwinsDr2021
    Lee has put up better numbers in the minors and is older and it seems people on here think he needs more time in the minors. It seems quite a few people on here think every Twins prospect is the exception to the rule and not rule. I mean people on here have compared EROD to Soto and at EROD's age he was a ROY and 3 time top 10 MVP.
  6. TwinsDr2021
    Why is there a ZIPS for 2024, didn't that season just happen? Nobody on this list except Lee has a chance to be a future piece of the Twins and if they are things will have gone wrong again. (Maybe Camargo because he isn't crazy old for a catcher) You can't continue to bring up rookies at these guys ages (minus Lee) and think they are anything more than bit pieces. If there next round of prospects (ERod, Jenkings, Keaschall, Culpepper) aren't up sooner than later, they will just be next group of mid 20 guys that nobody really knows what kind of player they really are.
  7. TwinsDr2021
    100% this, doesn't matter how you get the product to the fans, if the product isn't exciting to the fans it doesn't really matter. Every year it seems like baseball has made it easier to not watch the game, just check in on it, TV, gamecast whatever it is. It is turning into the NBA IMO, no reason to watch unless the star I like is playing or maybe tune in at the end of the game.
  8. TwinsDr2021
    I don't think either of those trades depleted the farm system at all. Steer has been a nice player, nothing special and doesn't look like he will be anything more than tat. CES is another 24/25 year old player that hasn't proven to be a MLB player yet (I think the Twins have their fair share of those guys still here) Hajjar is 23 and was in high A this year. I would do the Mahle type trade over for sure, with out a doubt, Did anybody think they Twins were getting an ACE type pitcher in him? The Twins have had SO MANY prospects they could have traded and gotten something for since this FO has taken over and haven't I am not worried about losing a Povich or Steer. I am more worried about guys like Romero, Gonz, Gordon, Miranda, Julien, Larnach and others they didn't trade away when the value was high.
  9. TwinsDr2021
    The Twins have had that opportunity a few times in the last few years and haven't done it. I will go out on a limb and say that just about nobody on TD would have been OK with bringing Jackson Merrill up the the Twins when the Padres did. I mean he completely skipped AAA, and the year before in A+ and AA his OPS was .782 and .762. On top of the fact that he was only 20 years old when called up.
  10. TwinsDr2021
    I took the misstatement to mean it since 2002 the Twins have one playoff series, where as the Tigers and Royals have been to a world series (2 KC) and tanked and did this year what the Twins have done once in 20+ plus seasons.
  11. TwinsDr2021
    I guess I measure based on the other relief pitchers in the majors and the faith the team has in that pitcher. As for blown saves isn't that really a relief pitchers job when they are brought in the hold or save the game? Thielbar in his career for example has 71 hold/save chances and has blown 3, this is why Rocco and the Twins trust him. This isn't meant as a rip on Sands, he had a pretty decent year, especially based on his expectations. But to have the same grade as Jax who was given 40 opportunities to hold/save a game or better grade than Duran who was given 32 and blow less than Sands is kind of crazy talk. IMO Sands earns a C maybe C+ if you feel he should get extra credit from his starting spot. He is kind of a meh relief pitcher IMO, There are quite a few guys around the league like him, I would love for him to take the next step in the pen to be that shut down 7th inning type guy. But if some other team sees something in him and think they could turn him into a starter I would be OK trading him as well.
  12. TwinsDr2021
    gotta say I love it when people dislike a post full of facts (assuming all your data was indeed facts) Great Post!!
  13. TwinsDr2021
    What am I missing about Sands, is it people thought he was trash so what he did was amazing? He blew 3 out of 12 save chances (25%), He was tied for 174th in MLB in holds. Less than Brock Stewart, Okert and Trevor Richards and tied for 7th on the Twins with Funderbuck. His Inherited Runner % is 11/25 (44%). In a good pen he isn't a top 4 guy and in a bad pen he is a barely a top for guy. With that said I like putting him in the 5th or 6th bullpen spot next year. And SWR just turned 24. 😀
  14. TwinsDr2021
    Jax will be 30 and hasn't pitched 100 innings since 2019, moving him to a starter shouldn't be an option.
  15. TwinsDr2021
    Most of these grades are kind of ridiculous IMO. Sands gets an A but blew 33% of his save chances. Alcala blew 1 of 17 changes with a lower ERA in only about 13 innings difference. Yet A and C+. Lopez pitched 120 more innings with and ERA almost a full run lower than Festa yet B and C+ and Matthews gets the same? Lopez, Ober and Ryan were good not Great. SWR was decent to good, the rest were viable at best. Jax Great, Duran good to better than good, Sands and Alcala were decent to good, The rest of the relievers were terrible to not good.
  16. TwinsDr2021
    After the fact, I agree they weren't great, but there are still quite a few playing in the majors, heck one has just set the record for winning a batting title with three different teams and one just won 15 games as a rookie. I am talking about the time. Maybe ERod is always hurt, Jenkins flames out and Festa and Matthews never work out. I hope they all end of hall of famers, but to pretend saying a system that was ranked fairly high that failed is better, worse of even with the system that is still unproven is better is a fools errand.
  17. TwinsDr2021
    2023 is the reason I said they deserved another year (in many previous posts). I said last year they had to make the playoffs for the FO to stay and win a series for Rocco to stay. (It is worth pointing out 23's payroll was around 20 million more than it had ever been) I haven't like Rocco since 2019 but thought he earned another year, but after this year I believe he needs to go. I am not for firing this front office for some of the points you made. I am also not going to pump up this FO either. I think they have done a good enough job to get another year to see if their prospects turn out (Lewis, Festa, Matthews, Lee, Julien and others) IMO a new manager even if given the same requirements as Rocco would go along way to the players and the fans. I have three friends with season ticket packages that aren't renewing solely because they aren't going to fire Rocco and two of the three have been apologists for him. My original point was this FO didn't walk into a bare cupboard, it was considered the best available job at the time because of the young guys (Who were actually young) and a deep system.
  18. TwinsDr2021
    Am I missing the current starting pitchers? Yes, they have been good at trading for starters (Odo, Ryan, Maeda (1 year) and Lopez and SWR?) besides Ober where are the rest? Sure Festa and Matthews pitched this year, but are they different than Meija, Romero and Jorge? We don't know yet. (maybe Raya or Morris but doesn't every team have prospects that are hyped to be a solution?) How about the pen? they used Escobar and Pressly to get Alcala and Duran again deccent to good trades, Jax is from the previous and that leaves Sands. The reasons/issues the Twins of 21,23 and 24 are basically the same issues the prior FO (Who I am not saying was good) had, they haven't been able to develop starting pitchers. One thing this FO has had the old one didn't? Bigger payrolls we will see if this list ends up being any better https://www.mlb.com/prospects/twins I sure hope so! Also remind me again who have they drafted that has turned into an all star (7 drafts prior to this year)
  19. TwinsDr2021
    Gordon, Gonzo, Romero , Kirilloff, Jay all top 100 prospects at one time around that time(not my rating but MLB), Plus Graterol, Mauer, Dozier, Escobar, Buxton, Sano, Kepler, Rosario, Polanco, Arraez, Berrios, Gibson ,Garver, Jorge,Meija, jax, Miranda, Duffey, Pressly, Rogers, Chargois, Moran, Wade, Ynoa, Gil, Garver, Rortvedt, Baddo, Hildenberger, Balazovic, Goodrum, Lewis. I don't think it is going out on a limb to say the team and minors were NOT without talent. (I mean they did make the playoffs in 2017, sold assets in 2018, and 2019 starting lineup was Garver, Sano, Planco, Rosario, Buston, Kepler, Arraez, Berrios, Gibson, Rogers, May, Duffey,
  20. TwinsDr2021
    I am sick of hearing how bad this front office had it when they got here at least from a players perspective. (yes they needed to modernize many aspects) They were handed a top 5 minor league system, the number 1 pick and future all stars all over the diamond.
  21. TwinsDr2021
    I agree, I don't enjoy this brand of baseball either, but if they were winning with it, the fans would put up with it. (It is like watching Lakeville South or Elk River play high school football, it is terrible to watch but if they are winning the fans will put up with it, but if they don't win, the fans will be calling for the coaches head)
  22. TwinsDr2021
    I am 52 and yes it is the most disappointing season I have seen. There may be bigger individual disappointments (92, Puckett's eye, the Yankee loses, Trading Johan and many others) but as a collective nothing has been more disappointing than this season. Starting with the declared right sizing of salary, picking up Farmers option and not trading him, picking up Polanco's option and trading him for trash. Not improving the team at the deadline, Ryan's injury, and others, all the horrendous in game decisions and play by the players, then the epic collapse. Not making the wild card but two other central teams (the f'n Royals and Tigers, WTF!). Followed by the worst thing of them all, telling the fans Rocco's job is safe after we all seen the team quit on him. Good Luck Twins on attendance next year. Anybody else feel like we are living in the real life version of Major League?
  23. TwinsDr2021
    SWR had a good season, "massive success" is a ridiculous statement. He averaged less than 5 innings per start and completed 5 innings in only 4 of his last 13 starts. He was huge, vital in helping the Twins lack of starting depth this year. You might want to look at Gavin Stone, Paul Skenes, Tobias Myers, Mitchell Parker, or Spencer Schwellenbach for a massive success. With that said I believe he has a pretty good chance of having a decent career.
  24. TwinsDr2021
    Having Festa, SWR, Matthews, and Morris as 4,5,6,7 is a recipe for disaster for next year. Having 25 year old Festa and Mattews starting in the minors looks good for depth but also shows at that age they are not ready. Kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.
  25. TwinsDr2021
    If the Twins bring back Rocco next year I can't imagine how empty Target field will be. The Owner/FO has to do something to show the fans the end of the year was unacceptable if they want the fans to buy into the team next year. They can't bring back the same coach and players and say trust us things will be different this year. Swapping out a hitting or pitching coach isn't going to be enough. It is almost like people forgot how horse crap this team was in 21 and 22 and after this year, somebody's head has to roll.
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