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  1. TheLeviathan
    George Springer is a 30 WAR player since 2015. Buck is 16. Your example only further reinforces there is no effing way he gets 200M. I wouldn't begrudge him betting on himself, but I won't play ball at that price. It isn't realistic. (His negotiating team seems to agree given 105M was close)
  2. TheLeviathan
    They are minor league professional athletes. It plainly meets the definition, in the dictionary, for "peers" by way of status. Good god man. I can't imagine feeling so strongly that people should live off Ramen that I'd contort myself this much. Woof.
  3. TheLeviathan
    Walk away for now and explore the market. I won't guarantee him 200M because I am bidding against myself. He won't get that much in guarantees unless he plays 150 games at an MVP level. I would play those odds. The fact it was reported 7/105 was a real negotiation point tells me that counter would be silly.
  4. TheLeviathan
    Anytime Buck can play baseball for a long stretch and not get hurt is a win. 7/125 with incentives is still where I am.
  5. TheLeviathan
    This is impressive mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that minor league professional athletes aren't peers. You're not having a serious discussion of the ideas. You are stumping on demonstrably false notions.
  6. TheLeviathan
    Lol. Of course I can't prove that. Man, rather than accept the scientifically verified data that there are reasons some people get injured more than others you went straight off the rails. Your contention that injuries are purely luck based has been debunked. I won't argue with strawmen, sorry.
  7. TheLeviathan
    Did those three injuries account for all 300 games he missed since 2018? Straight from the article: Collagen proteins also form the backbone of tissues and bones, but in some people, structural differences in these proteins may leave the body’s structures weaker or unable to repair themselves properly after injury. Researchers have also identified genetic markers associated with bone-mineral density, an important measure of bone strength that provides clinicians with information on a patient’s risk of fracture. The events themselves, if you want to die on the hill that those are unlucky, isn't the underlying problem. Another player, perhaps with better genetic protein structures, may have walked away uninjured from all of those events. As well as the rib cage injury. The hip injury. The wall crashes. The wrist injuries. Etc. That's the part that isn't "luck"
  8. TheLeviathan
    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/02/the-genetics-of-being-injury-prone/385257/ This is but one study of many that debunks this whole "Injuries are a matter of luck" argument. Muscle flexibility, technique, genetics, injury history, etc. If the Twins gamble on him, and I hope they do, it IS a gamble. He needs to start playing 100+ games a season. Not 55.
  9. TheLeviathan
    Our run defense is a serious problem. I don't understand why we're so bad. That 30 yard run before half....good god.
  10. TheLeviathan
    Josh Donaldson hurts his leg muscles all sorts of ways. By your definition, we should totally expect him to be completely healthy! He won't run wrong, to first, against the *insert last injury opponent here* every time. Pure bad luck. C'mon. You can favor this extension without that sort of thing. This isn't controversial: That's not how human bodies work. "Bad luck" doesn't explain missing 300 out of a possible 480 games since 2018. Read that again if you need to. Not every athlete is able to play as long as others because their skills break down. Not every athlete is able to endure the same contact or wear and tear and come through it the same. Buck has demonstrated - to the tune of nearly missing 2/3s of the games he has been eligible to play - that his body doesn't seem to endure those rigors as well as others. Acting like he's just "good luck" away from playing more often is seriously naive. The Twins can't, and shouldn't, be that naive in their negotiations. And you're only punishing yourself as a fan to keep going to that well. Ask Nick Nelson and his Three Time Running "Buck for MVP" column in March that has, you guessed it, never materialized due to injury. Your kind of thinking keeps going back to that well because it refuses to acknowledge a problem that has persisted and, in all likelihood, will continue to continue. When we have a data point that Buck can play a whole season, THEN the narrative should change.
  11. TheLeviathan
    The defense played ok but man was the offense a mess after the first drive. Our WR were not getting quick separation and their D-line is too good to hold on to the ball.
  12. TheLeviathan
    I think the bigger problem is Cook shouldn't be out there. The line battle hasn't been one sided, they are holding their own.
  13. TheLeviathan
    Guys who get injured don't do so by choice, I don't understand why anyone thinks this is a reasonable way to look at things. Of course Buxton isn't hurling his body purposely into injury with the intent to be injured. The problem is that we have ample evidence that some players maintain durability and others simply don't. Josh Donaldson isn't "doing something" or "choosing" to keep hurting his balky leg muscles. He's just clearly more prone to injuries there. His body can't handle the sport without more chance of injury relative to his peers. Likewise, we have a crap ton of evidence this is the case for Buxton. Could he suddenly be able to play baseball without getting hurt all the time? Sure. I hope that's the case. I'm on board for that gamble and want an extension. But I'm over this fairy tale that it's some kind of given he's going to be healthy. If Vegas was doing odds on Buxton's future games played per season, I guarantee you that over/under is WAY short of 150. It's probably short of 100.
  14. TheLeviathan
    Who cares whose fault they are? All we have to predict the future is trends of the past. Players with this kind of history rarely become durable. The time of his life where his body was the most resilient was spent playing halves to thirds of seasons. That has bearing on a 7 year contract.
  15. TheLeviathan
    If you didn't like it getting political you could have steered away from "dumb kids can't stretch peanuts" line of argument. I'll repeat because it basically trashes all of your arguments, is not political, and compares MLB to their peers. They're terrible. And there is no moral or financial justification for it.
  16. TheLeviathan
    This post says the exact opposite of everything you said @bean5302 At this point you are long-windedly defending greed. You should reread the post you liked and better understand the thesis so you aren't so offbase.
  17. TheLeviathan
    And your math included no agent fees and as rosy a picture as possible and still left them 30k. My link puts that into context of professional sports along with a litany of issues you didn't consider. You are defending poverty on the basis of "slightly better than homeless and living off happy meals". For what purpose....I have no freaking clue.
  18. TheLeviathan
    No, not rocket science. These guys are being woefully underpaid. Only the elite draft choices are going to overcome this kind of pay with their signing bonus. Especially when you take agent fees out as well as taxes. There is no justifiable reason for baseball to be this cheap about their pay. None. Morally or financially.
  19. TheLeviathan
    There is no reason these guys are eating fast food, living in bunk beds in some random person's house, and unable to afford the basic necessities to live a quality life. Baseball is starving these guys, literally and figuratively, and they are investments in their future product. A meager increase is all it would take to correct this and yet the MLBPA and Owners constantly exploit these guys for their own leverage. This isn't about sound financial planning or any of that....it's wondering why a multi-billion dollar industry pays peanuts to players. A drop in the bucket changes this whole narrative and yet stubborn greed rules the day. There is no justifying that behavior.
  20. TheLeviathan
    Is this where I make a snowflake crack? Yeesh, sense of humor please.
  21. TheLeviathan
    How many people saw that he only started 55 games and thought it was more? I was going to guess he played half the season, but it's a third. Ouch. He stayed on the field after he came back, that was a very promising end. Hopefully they get a very fair contract done with incentives for Buck and protections in case we spend the next 7 years with 50 games played.
  22. TheLeviathan
    How is it uncertain? We have a guy in Jeffers who is 24, showed some great things so far in his young career, Rortvedt is still a guy I think we can count on as a future big leaguer, if only as a backup. So the team has options - keep Garver and let he and Jeffers hold it down another year so Rortvedt can season a bit more in AAA or, if you get a nice offer, deal Garver to plug another hole. But the Twins are in a leverage position, they don't need to do anything.
  23. TheLeviathan
    Agreed, I guess I just meant to point out that there was a good mix. More quick throws is a good thing, but they weren't all that way. Frankly, it seemed like a very diversified set of plays - screens, short throws against cushions, play action with rollouts, play action from the pocket, slants, deep ins, inside runs, outside runs, zones, tosses, some power runs. I don't remember the last time a Vikings offense looked that eclectic.
  24. TheLeviathan
    They're no Andrelton Simmons....
  25. TheLeviathan
    Since this is a baseball site. If any of you folks have an itch to GM a team using Baseball Mogul, we have the Twins open in the league I have been running the last decade. We sim three times a week, super stable and fun file. @Vanimal46this is your OOTP alternative!
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