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  1. You are not supported by the data offered in this debate. Continuing a discussion wherein one party is denying evidence doesn't feel like a good use of time.
  2. Oof...that will make acquiring a SS a lot harder.
  3. Trying to pretend those voices in the first paragraph were even remotely on par with the other end is silly. At the deadline, when extension talks hit the media, the factions were pretty clearly "seems about right" vs "80M is half what he'll get". And the threads from then back it up. A lot of offseason projections have been close, but there is plenty of crow to be had for those I referenced.
  4. Having our top DT available could help. Being unvaccinated leaves our roster thinner and that is demonstrably problematic.
  5. Well...some. We had a sizable contingent saying anything less than 150M was a slap in the face and he'd get at least 25M AAV. This deal says a lot about Buck wanting to be here. It also says a lot about what his agents thought would be available in FA.
  6. Those PA incentives are modest as hell. Very good deal for the Twins, even if it flops the risk is worth it.
  7. Quite the opposite. Milwaukee's pitching staff pitched very well.....but there is no amount of "great" you can pitch if your offense scores a grand total of 2 runs the first three games. At some point you have to score. IMO the best way to win is to minimize your weak points, have depth, be flexible, and build for consistency. A good offense is easier to do that with on nearly every front. I'd also bet good hitting teams tend to be less erratic in their year to year performances as well. (Though I would love to see data) Pitching is weird.
  8. Honestly curious....are we linked to ANYONE right now?
  9. He's not wrong about the risks/problems with Buxton.
  10. Universal DH. There's no good argument against it beyond sentiment.
  11. This paragraph feels like 2 + 2 = banana. At the end of the day no amount of great pitching can save a flailing lineup. That was the point.
  12. I think the hitting side won this debate in the first post and from there it was an informative, even matchup. I say that because, at the end of the day, team building needs to be about predictability and reliability and it's evident hitting is the better bet from that end. Even in these comments there are a lot of false, preconceived notions about the "requirement" of ace pitching or top end starters. As @chpettit19rightly points out....the role of an 8 inning starter who chews up playoff games for you is basically extinct. It's been replaced with flexible 6-8 man groupings that do well enough for long enough that the lineup you field wins it for you. The Brewers, as @Vanimal46rightly points out, are the clear example: badass starters who put up cartoonish numbers can't save you when your team has an OPS that Andrelton Simmons would be ashamed of.
  13. I'm going to be succinct: Your entire claptrap (and given how often we all have to endure it, I'm sticking with that description) can be boiled down to one fact-free assertion that is not justified: that one must have the other pieces "before" the big FA. There is no fact about that. It is undoubtedly true, and no one has asserted otherwise, that teams need to have homegrown and traded-for talent to go with any FAs they have acquired. The sequencing of how that happens is in no way whatsoever consequential. If the FA comes a year before the homegrown talent....you still wound up with both, just like if you reversed them. FA/Trade/Develop....what matters is that you've utilized all three to compose your team. Not that you HAVE to develop and THEN sign. That is not supported by any facts no matter how many times you try to bloviate it into existence. Now it's time for the Twins to spend some of that 130M swell of revenue they've been Scrooging for a decade and go add some talent to their coming wave of homegrown ones.
  14. I think prioritizing defense at shortstop makes sense. However, they have to be able to hit their way out of a paper bag if you're going to pay them, say, 10M a year.
  15. We've had some great hits in the past, but it's such a great route to bring in big time talents.
  16. Worried? No? Increasingly bored and disenchanted? Yes. I think the latter is way, way worse from the Twins' perspective.
  17. Wow, that deal is fascinating. There is a chance the Rays regret it, but there's a damn good chance they are cackling as they write his paychecks for the next decade.
  18. I'll repeat: The Twins are making a 130M more in revenue than they were a decade ago and are only spending about 70M more than they were a decade ago. Mid-market successes like St. Louis traded for Goldschmidt and Arrenado, ChiSox added Grandal, Lynn, Hendricks, Kuechel, Kimbrel over a span of years, Padres are a 'Nuff Said. Waiting for the stars to align is folly.
  19. The right guys signed to 5 year deals should provide help to several potential windows of contention. That's the beauty of it....sign Corey Seager or Robbie Ray and they should be a factor for several potential runs. Signing stop gaps only ensures they never help your future. That's what a stop gap is.
  20. Why does spending in FA equate to team building in FA? Free Agency is for supplementing. And you can supplement at high price tags. And....you can supplement your future teams that may be only 1 or 2 players away a year or two in advance. I believe this team has a bonafide group of young pitchers. I think in two years that Miranda, Martin, and Lewis are players for this team. If so.....I want to add now to have those supports in place for them. Signing Seager or Ray or any other top FA doesn't mean you wipe your hands clean and pat yourself on the back for a job well done or mission accomplished. But it means you are one more good player closer to where you want to be in the future. And you have one less offseason where all your "I need to add one or two players now!" eggs are not in the same basket. It's not like St. Louis waited for Arrenado and Goldschmidt to be simultaneously available. They added periodically. Ditto the White Sox. Waiting for the perfect moment is folly.
  21. This is your schtick. It's not fun: http://www.stevetheump.com/Payrolls.htm#2010payroll https://www.statista.com/statistics/196669/revenue-of-the-minnesota-twins-since-2006/ I see basically no non-pandemic drops in the last 20 years. Additionally, revenue jumped by 50M in 2010 and by 130M from 2009 to 2019. Pray tell....did the payroll jump by 130M? (That seems hard to do given the current payroll is struggling to be 130M total) Go ahead and look at what the payroll has done since 2009. Hint: It hasn't gone up by 130M. So get off the excuse making. This team has plenty of revenue to increase their spending significantly. (Best part? I am not actually calling for an increase! Just previously established high points!)
  22. Fair, I think we could've taken more time than that and still scored the TD, but point taken. Also....given Zimmer's clock management, I wasn't 100% sure we were going to successfully drain all the time.
  23. And when revenues have gone up the purse strings still stay tight. So using that excuse doesn't fly for me.
  24. Whatever 40-50M buys you.
  25. Since that is always what spending in FA entails, I don't see why that distinction is relevant. The team has virtually nothing on the long-term books.
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