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Everything posted by TheLeviathan
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The SC would be fighting the Obama Administration's policies on that. I agree with you, but many of these things were spurred on by the former President's administration. When things like this happen, I would hope it would shine a giant spotlight on how these laws are actually counter-productive to their objective. We need to support and seek justice for sexual assault victims, but this changes the focus completely away from that. And actually makes more victims out of people rather than achieving justice.
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All the optimistic spin you put on these guys echos the optimistic spin others were putting on Jay and how he'd take things to the next level this year and confirm his future as a starter. We had limited bullets in our gun already and we just took another one out. That hurts. I too hope other guys step up, but it's still a setback.
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That whole thing was a freaking mess. It should make anyone who sides with the laws that got it there take a serious look in the mirror about what they support. There are better ways to solve sexual assault on campus then debacles like this.
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I don't disagree, but that's just one guy. We need more than that.
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In terms of future starting pitching, why can't both concern me? I can acknowledge Jay might still be valuable and still regret what this does for our future SP options.
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Article: Twins Need To Be Buyers Next Winter
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I never said it would dry up the well. Like any budget - and payroll is a budget - you have opportunity costs. Signing a giant 7 year 200+ contract has the cost of signing two smaller FA deals like Ervin Santana. It's not that they can't afford to, it's that (for me) the cost of doing is likely too great. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. I wouldn't dive into those waters unless I thought I was putting the cherry on my World Series sundae. I'd prefer to trade or dabble in the tier one below that where the years and dollars are not nearly so cumbersome to my budget.- 125 replies
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Article: Twins Need To Be Buyers Next Winter
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That's simply not true. A large deal does eat away at available resources. Any time you are handing 1/25 of your roster 1/10 (or more) of your available payroll, it absolutely has side-effects that can be negative. This is where people lose me. I get it, it's easier to spend someone else's money and demand they spend to whatever degree you deem is ok, but that's not reality. Do I think the Twins can spend more? Yes. But I also know that their payroll is mid-market at best, possibly much less given their own bungling of their cable contract. And a team in that market range has to be very careful about handing out 20M+ per year deals because it will have ramifications for other spending the team has to do.- 125 replies
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Article: Twins Need To Be Buyers Next Winter
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I'm not advocating they clean out the farm when the time comes, it's just my preference. Your argument that they have needs in so many areas would work against the case of dropping 20+ on one guy.- 125 replies
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To be clear, I'm talking in very general terms about what strategies I would use towards free agency. Where we are in a year is anyone's guess at this point. We may be just as easily looking to tear this sucker to the studs again as wee are buying starting pitching. As for my more general beliefs - many prospects fizzle. Cash always has value. So would I choke down blowing cash on the back half of a giant contract in hopes that the first half gives me what I want? Perhaps, depends. But I'm far more interested in dealing prospects for immediate help. Think about how little we would have missed Aaron Hicks if we had dealt him for Cliff Lee for example. I much prefer that route.- 125 replies
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Perhaps not for you, but plenty of people were counting on him taking a step forward this year. The "don't fret" thread in particular. We just moved a guy picked 6th overall from a starting role to the pen. We're engaging in some pretty awesome gymnastics to not consider that a setback for our young starting pitching.
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Article: Twins Need To Be Buyers Next Winter
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See, I'd MUCH rather deal a few prospects for something known. We're talking in hypotheticals here because the truth is, we don't know if next offseason we'll have a team that warrants making a big splash. So let's look back at when the team did warrant that splash. When the Twins were at their peak 7-8 years ago and needed that cherry (as Brock described it), I'd have much rather traded for Cliff Lee than sign CC Sabathia. And for me, it's not even close. There is more than one way to skin a cat and here's what I see: If you sign a 150M-200M contract for some FA - you will have that turn into a glaring negative at some point with near certainty. There isn't nearly as great a chance of having your move backfire if you trade. All that said, I'm not opposed to venturing into that market at some point. But if I do it's either for a hitter or if I think one piece over the first 1-3 years of that contract might land me a title. Short of that? The negatives are far too great for me to take that route.- 125 replies
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We've been reassured all winter that the Twins have lots of future starting options in their minors. One of those just went down to the bullpen. Wasted pick? Maybe not. Major setback for the future of the rotation? Um...yeah. Big time.
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Just because many picks flop doesnt mean criticism isnt warranted.
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I'm not sure this should make people feel good. So he just has to be Chris Sale and we'll be alright? We're setting some lofty standards for Tyler Jay to not bust here.
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The last episode with The Shadow King/Lenny retro-dancing Bond style across David's memories is simply one of the best scenes on television in awhile. Noah Hawley + Aubrey Plaza needs to keep happening. Their brand of whacky goes perfectly together.
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In a word....poorly. As he should be by just about everyone.
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Article: Twins Need To Be Buyers Next Winter
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The difference is if I endorse a 7 year 150M contract I accept the reality and long term ramifications. I know it's basically a one time deal that will limit further spending for a decade. I do so knowing we have a finite payroll and that deal has major long term implications. Do you? Or does it remain as easy as ever to complain about payroll? See, I also have been vocal in my criticisms, but I'm also very grounded. It's less about how much and more about how the money is spent.- 125 replies
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If you open your checkbook once for a 7 year 150M player...are you good then for seven years? You make a deal like that and you need to live with it for seven. And reality is that it takes you out of play for another FA move for most of that contract. This isn't a video game, there are longterm ramifications to this demand we are setting. We have finite resources, even if we all agree to eating into the profits a bit more than we do now.- 125 replies
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Now we need to define "of note". Because Phil Hughes could qualify. And again, this seems like a weak conclusion relative to what you've said in the past. It's nice to finally have some clarification though. Some of you talk a really, really strong game but this is pretty tepid.- 125 replies
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Every offseason? How big should their payroll be and what percentage of it should be signed FAs? I have trouble reckoning your past comments on spending with this post that tries to argue you'd be content with a philosophy that merely doesn't rule it out.- 125 replies
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How often do you do that? Every year? Just once when you need it? How much of your roster can be composed of guys paid in the top 10% of the league? What should payroll be? These are questions you should answer, not me. Your original statement put no bounds on spending, which I consider to be both unrealistic and unwise. I colorfully described that as drunken soldier spending. So please, you and Mike and everyone else, what's sufficient for the Twins to be spending to make you warm and cozy inside?- 125 replies
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You responded to me and I said I'd rather not spend like a drunken sailor. You then quoted a GM about spending irrationally. I stand by what I said - I don't want to spend like a drunken sailor. FA, for the Twins, will always have to be measured and smart. Even if it becomes more aggressive.- 125 replies
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While the Twins can certainly do more (much more) I think your comparisons are rather flawed. As much as I like Epstein, he's never been held to much of a budget. And when you have that kind of budget you have more room to make mistakes and you can throw reason out the window a little more freely. At some point reality has to be in the equation here a bit. A timely splash? Sure. Dropping 25M on one player every offseason? Not reality. And not wise either.- 125 replies
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Yup....this. I'd spend some in FA, but not the drunken sailor spending that some want.- 125 replies
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