TheLeviathan

It does feel like Murray is inevitable and I hate that so much. Some day we're going to get a breakdown of where the KOC/JJ marriage broke down and led to this bitter divorce. It's the most passive aggressive I've ever seen any front office.

Not sure I'm happy there either. Penix has the knees of a 70 year old.

You know many 6'3 15 year olds who have arms so short they can't touch their nose? :)

This is the kind of content I come to Twinsdaily for: an article not written by the horde of Codys that has actual meat to chew on. I just can't endorse any lineup that has Lee at SS, Larnach in LF, and Wallner in RF. Those are just too many slow footed, low range guys patrolling the field. I think Larnach has to be at DH and LF needs to be manned by Outman and Martin. I know this puts Bell at 1B....but I don't want to be subjected to that left side of the field if he and Lee are both out there. (I hope a slimmer Lee proves this take wrong though! No hope for Larnach however)

Not an injury yet, but this is your first of many reminders from this poster that not all human bodies are built the same. Injuries can sometimes be luck, but far more often it's just genetics. Athletes can take care of themselves, do everything right, train amazingly....and still have their genes fail them. Not every body endures and withstands contact the same.

He probably just skyrocketed into the top 10. His versatility is ridiculous.

Oh god....it's that bad?

We've talked about the strong DT class.....but the LBs showed out today. Styles is a freak. Hometown boy Rodriguez had an incredible day. Allen, Golday, Hill all great players.

I officially have no idea what they're doing.

Pick 49 it is!

Is there any sort of comp for those measurements?

This is the best nose tackle class of all time. There are 10ish guys that will be long-term run stuffers in the league. (Mcdonald, Corleone, Orange, Hunter, Jackson Jr., Banks, Miller, Keenan,McClellan, and maybe how you feel about Woods) I absolutely want one of them this year.

We may never know the actual answer but the last part rings true. There is some sort of a personality disconnect now.

I don't know though....when the Rams were being filmed during that draft McVay confirmed that KOC "had his guy" and wouldn't trade down. So....what changed? And when and why?

Thing is....as fans....we didn't have enough information to analyze the situation. We made the assumption that KOC was a real whisperer with QBs but it looks like some of the flaws we've seen trace back to him. We assumed he was bought in on JJ and that doesn't seem true. We saw Darnold crash out in the playoffs but the Seahawks protected him from that when the Vikings refused to. The organization's weird messaging to the public (and oddly timed decisions) has me at a serious lack of trust right now.

You're right and I understand that motivation for KOC. As a fan....*#$^ that. You're making the team worse so you can eek out 7 wins and keep your job. I HATE that we are there again.

I'm not so sure they won't find a trade partner. As nick has pointed out....there aren't enough starting QBs for teams that need a starting quarterback. In the highly unlikely event you can grab hi for 1 year 10M...sure. But we won't ove those results...it'll just be cheapish.

Sure, I don't pretend he's anything actually good. But what is Murray going to cost? Are we trading for him and giving up real capital to take on that contract? Are giving him a fat contract after he's released? Speaking as someone who lives in AZ, the dialogue around Kyler is more toxic and negative than it was on Kirk in Minnesota. He can't throw downfield. He's got health issues. He's got serious character and leadership questions. No thanks. I agree the options suck....hence why I'd just roll with McCarthy. If he dies...he dies. Time to move on.

I don't get this chatter either. It sounds like they've given up on McCarthy which is just stunning to me. I mean....I'm not going to cheerlead him but giving up on a dude after a dozen starts is wild in my opinion.

I hate this with every fiber of my being.

I'm a big fan of Corleone.

I don't know how they can't carry 3 given the issues with McCarthy. I love Jacoby,he's probably starting in AZ though. I'm also a "hey, let's take a flier on Zach Wilson" guy but I didn't there were two of us! Doubled in rank! (But I don't think that's the type the Vikings are hunting for)

I can be talked out of Jimmy G for sure, but that's the tier I want to play in. No QB short of a Burrow level guy transforms this team into a SB contender IMO. They have too much work to do rebuilding the roster from the draft losses lately. I considered Tyrod Taylor as another guy. Open to better names though! I hear you on the second point, Flores does seem to mistrust youth. In this scenario there are guys in front of Rodriguez and Smith that could play if they aren't immediately ready. Hunter's role is pretty straight forward. I get that it doesn't feel right to go all defense early but I really think Flores and his group need an injection of youth. Klubnik is 3...Brosmer is the dude who needs to survive waivers, :) The biggest issue with this is that I think there is zero chance Hunter or Rodriguez are available at those slots.

The Twins have been really, really good at being really, really "meh" at 1B since Morneau. "Meh" is the upside of this group.

Alright folks....let's see how ugly this is going to get: Restructures/Releases: (All using Spotrac tool) Jefferson restructure with his signing bonus conversion - save 19 million O'Neill - 3 year 63M extension. New cap hit 9.9M, saves 12 million Hargrave - release - saves 10.5M Kelly - release/retire - saves 3.5M Aaron Jones - release - saves about 7M Darrisaw - restructure like Jefferson - saves about 10M Hockenson - restructure and convert - saves about 9M Total Cap Space: 35M Free Agency: Trade: WR Addison and pick 235 to Buffalo Bills for picks 60 and 126 RB Rico Dowdle 2 years 14M QB Jimmy Garrapolo 1 year 4M WR Jalen Nailor 3 years 33M DT Logan Hall 3 years 25M Eric Wilson 3 years 20M Draft: (PFSN with trades, Consensus Rankings) 18 - Cleveland calls and offers 24, 70, and a 2nd next year for 18 and 82. (Drafts Ty Simpson) 24 - CB Brandon Cisse (Explosive athlete, really young too) 49 - DT Lee Hunter (Nose tackle. Me likey) 60 - S Genesis Smith 70 - LB Jacob Rodriguez 97 - C Jake Slaughter 126 - WR Bryce Lance 156 - QB Cade Klubnik 236 - RB Le'Veon Moss 241 - TE/FB Riley Nowakowski 245 - CB Ephesians Prysock Roster: QB - McCarthy, Garrapolo, Klubnik RB - Dowdle, Mason, Moss, Scott FB - Nowakowski WR - Jefferson, Nailor, Lance, Felton, Price TE - Hockenson, Oliver, Yurosek OL - Darrisaw, Jackson, Slaughter, Fries, O'Neill, Huber, Brandel, Rouse, Jurgens DL - Allen, Redmond, Hunter, Hall, TID, LDR Edge - Greenard, Gink, Turner, Batty LB - Cashman, Wilson, Rodriguez CB - Murphy, Cisse, Rodgers, McGlothern, Prysock S - Metellus, Ward, Jackson, Smith The team has room to add some veteran depth at CB and WR as well if needed. It's not my favorite team every, but we got an extra 2027 2nd and at least some actual, playable young dudes!