Jocko87

Not worried about Cleveland. Can't decide if I want Texas to keep winning or not.

At some point you would think at least the agents are yelling at these guys to get it together. Someone has the tell them they are effecting their future paychecks.

Nice to have a couple of guys that will get votes but Gunnar Henderson is a 5.8 WAR player. -3500 betting odds. If you can find a place to bet on Royce a dollar probably gets you 10k.

Today's moves have got to ignite another 5 pages in this thread.

Does Tiger Woods count in that method?

This is getting fun.

I've wondered about the plantar fasciitis if it's better to just keep going until you shut it down for good. Like he can't do much damage now but if it starts to heal its more suseptible to a reinjury that would be much worse?

Two years, 11 days after the last postseason win, by the way.

There is? Holy smokes where is it?

Caping up for the keyboard warrior is a bold move.

I've said it a million times. Sabermetrics didn't change how baseball was managed, it just changed what data was used. It's always been a game of using the right data at the right time. Every manager in the history and future of baseball has to pick which factors are currently important to the situation. In 25 years Ruesse will break the news that the reason Correa wasn't available to pinch hit instead of Vazquez was because he went on an apple juice bender the night before and was hungover. It will make everything make so much more sense. (For the reply guys, I made that up, obviously)

There is only two reasons you need a long reliever in the playoffs! 1. You get blown out. 2. Extra innings????? 20-30 minutes back and forth on this point. Basically settle on only one reason for a long reliever. Not that I blame anyone for not thinking of this, and there is no reason a Minnesota Twins fan would, but what about a blowout win? I'd like to eat some innings then.

We agree on this. We have to remember that we very seldom can make these determinations in the moment. I'm sick to death of trade retrospective articles 3 weeks later that seek to proclaim one thing of another. Current evidence is that they are progressing differently with how two left handed hitters are used against left handed pitching. They are both full products of this front office that they drafted and developed to this point so successfully that these boards have howled for their promotions. I'm willing to give them leeway on the weekly/monthly/yearly details as I'm not privy to enough information. We should not be surprised that the 1 st round pick is getting there slightly sooner than the 18th rounder. But, honestly, to say getting this production out of an 18th round draft pick is anything but a resounding success is short sighted at best. Realize the nits we are picking at here.

These particular examples are not making the point you think they are, If these are the burning items in your craw, you should probably step back for a bigger picture. I had to look up Nick Anderson. He had a cup of coffee in A ball with the Twins and is a decent major league reliever at best. Half the league has a similar story. Logan Morrison was a one year $7m flyer that didn't work out but they rode out the year, same as Gallo. Big deal. Morrison, by the way, they stuck with all the way to his last appearance on August 10th. Hip injury, second time on the IL with a hip injury that was likely bothering most of the year. They took a one year flyer on a guy who got injured. Half the league has a similar story. The Martin Perez/Randy Dobnak/Chris Archer/Dylan Bundy/Micheal Pineda/JA Happ/Rich Hill/Lance Lynn/Addison Reed/Bartolo Colon/who did I miss era doesn't have much to do with benefit of the doubt on hitters but it will help me illustrate my point. These pitchers were stepping stones to where we are now, which is undoubtedly better than where we were. If you chose to remember a Nick Anderson and it gives you a visceral reaction you are not thinking clearly in evaluating the front office. In one breath, you say all front offices are wrong all to often. In the next you give fringe examples as defining moments. If we step back for a larger view, there is not one area of talent that is not markedly better than it was 5 years ago. If we look at the bigger picture, I have quite a lot of faith in them to get it right in the long term. I've been reminiscing quite a bit lately and found the below thread from 2019 a few weeks ago. Quite interesting to read back and the discussion is basically the same, just the names are different. Spoiler, Lamonte Wade and Akil Baddoo are featured prominently (insert Spencer Steer and CES to modernize) Does anyone really miss those guys? Compared to the current roster? No, absolutely not.

It's an obvious hypothetical. We don't know anything other than they are quite reticent to let him bat against a lefty and when they do, it's pretty ugly. Much less so than Wallner who has been getting starts against lefties. What do you suppose the difference is? There are a dozen possible reasons that aren't going to satisfy this board but we keep pounding the same nail.

Thanks for the detailed write up. I've been thinking about this topic a lot lately with all the David Sterns news. I've been hearing of him as the wunderkid for quite sometime and just don't really get it. After he and Falvey worked together I'd take Falvey's trajectory over Sterns anytime. As for Bloom, presiding over an era where Mookie Betts, Zander Bogarts etal left without having a glut of prospects beating down the door is a problem. I've seen a few reports of what he inherited and its ugly but he had the bullets needed to make a proper overhaul. Now the Red Sox look like they are stuck in that ugly middle ground.

We'll. We'll. We'll. If it isn't the nut of the whole discussion. WE will never know a whole lot of things. THEY, as in the Twins already know quite a lot. They are well aware they have a lot of work to do to get him functional. Rocco isn't going to give him enough at bat's to prove to Twins Daily that he can't do it. Sorry about our losses. Its probably best that he doesn't struggle in public anyway. Also, a question for the has to do it to learn it crowd. What really is the difference in game at bats and simulation at bats in practice? I'll grant you the pressure of the situation but if Brent Headrick is making him look silly in a controlled environment why would he advance to the next level?

I was really hoping the 9th would last just long enough to turn the lineup to Julien against a lefty.

Also @USAFChief right now.

I'll see your 42 AB's and raise you 200ish minor league at bats with varying levels of success. 42 at bats ain't the only data they are using but it does matter. The 42 at bats against the adults are extremely bad, both in the numbers and the eye test. If his progression continues to track he should eventually look like a functional hitter against lefties but he's not there yet. The big leagues in September on a contending team aren't the place for random experience experiments. I did get more worked up over these type of moves in May but a lot of those were also in the 5th inning.

Good question, I already have flights but my brother lives in town. Not sure about going yet but if I could find tickets easily it would certainly help.

Well, they handled this pretty well it looks like. It’s a lot of them! I can only name half without cheating.

I'm open to the discussion if it is worse or not but I am quite certain he expected a pitching change based on his move. To say that he wasn't flies in the face of everything basic baseball and if so, that would be miles worse than making the actual move. Had there not been a pitching change in response he's a lucky genius. As it was, he made the choice that Vazquez against a righty is better than Julien against a lefty. By the numbers, and my eye test, he's correct. I also wouldn't have been upset had he stayed with Julien there. In a game that matters, Correa (that bench guy, whomever he is) is available.

Does anyone remember who our resident orthopedist was? I’m curious for a more educated opinion of todays news drops.

I’m with you on the question of pinch hitting Vazquez but I can’t go there with being out managed. He got what he wanted there. If we can demonstrate that he was surprised at the pitching change I’m all ears. Julien is objectively horrible against lefties so leaving him in could also be framed as managerial misconduct. Correa was obviously not available so he chose the slightly less worse option. Julien .452 OPS against lefties and Vazquez .545 OPS against righties but a lot more familiar. I get that it’s the straw that broke the proverbial back but it’s not a hill worth dying on. There will be a ton of odd lineup calls down the stretch so it’s probably best not to get wound up about them.