TopGunn#22
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I'd almost rather get a pitcher like Syndergaard if I'm giving up Arraez AND Kiriloff, but the Chapman idea is intriguing. An infield of Champman-3B Didi or Jose Iglesias-SS Polanco 2B and Sano-1B would be pretty good defensively (especially the left side) and if Didi is your SS that infield can mash with anybody. If it's Iglesias you get an excellent glove and a guy who's figuring out how to more of a factor offensively. Kind of like Omar Vizquel without the speed (O.K. I apologize, there really is only ONE Omar Vizquel).
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Pros and Cons: Ryu or Bumgarner?
TopGunn#22 commented on Nash Walker's blog entry in The Special Season
As always Doc, a stellar take. I agree. (Good article Nash, this should generate a LOT of discussion). Both are smart pitchers who know how to pitch. They don't have the velocity of a Verlander or Wheeler, but either one would have a tremendous impact on our pitchers. Look at the positive impact Cruz had on our hitters. I don't think it's an accident that Sano looked more and more like Cruz at the plate as the year wore on. So I agree with Doc. If I had to choose, I'd take Mad-Bum. Durable, post season pedigree etc...but if you told me today, "well, you guys will have to settle for Ryu" I'd say "EXCELLENT !!" -
I agree with almost everything MikeLink45 had to say. I think Arraez's ability to hit doubles like JLease pointed will help his slugging % as well. I'll take 39 HR's out of Cruz. But while I don't think Kepler will be a superstar, I can't see Rosario having a better OPS. Max just walks so much more than Eddie, and as was pointed out Kepler has improved his fWar each of the last couple seasons. I think he's turned a corner. I'd be really interested to see what they project for Polanco since he's such a glue-guy for their lineup. I think offense will be down slightly but not as much as most people think.
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You could look to acquire Bundy and Villar. What's not to like about a 2B-man that hit .274 with 24 HR's 40 SB's and 111 runs scored ? Move Araez to 3B and Sano to 1B. Hit Araez and Villar 1 & 2 with Polanco, Cruz, Kepler, Garver, Sano, LF and Buxton. (trade Eddie for Robbie Ray or Boyd).
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I think it makes sense to give resigning Pineda strong consideration. But with the 40-game suspension, he doesn't have to be an urgent priority right now. If the Twins sign Wheeler for 5-yrs $95 million, and make a trade for a Ray/Boyd type of pitcher the Dobnak/Smeltzler/Thorpe 3-headed monster could hold down #5. But if you have Berrios, Wheeler, Odo and Ray/Boyd then yes, Pineda is the #5 guy. If everyone pitches to their abilities in this rotation, Pineda becomes an interesting starting or bullpen option for the post season. I like cost certainty so I would probably offer Pineda 2-years at $7 million per. This would be similar to the 2-year contract they signed him to before where the first year was primarily a rehab year. the #5 guys would have at most 8 starts to take care of to begin the season. There's nothing wrong with having depth.
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Yup, Pomeranz is off the market, but I believe the Twins could spend that money MUCH better by signing Dellan Betances. He would be an excellent RH complement to Taylor Rogers. Plus, he's Dellan Frickin' Betances !!! Everyone assumes he's just going to sign with the Yankees. As lee Corso would say "Not So Fast" !! Now that the Orioles have waived Johnathon Villar, would the Twins have any interest ?? It's hard to ignore a middle infielder with .274 24HR's 40 SB's and 114 runs scored. He and Arraez at the top of the order would be intriguing to say the least. Villar could play SS or 2B moving Arraez to 3B and Sano to 1B.
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dbminn makes a GREAT point. Their top prospect is a SS (Brendan Rogers) and he's blocked by Story. Personally, I like this trade/plan better than the Mookie Betts speculation because Story stays a Twin for several years and he makes us better defensively. The only thing I would do further is trade Eddie Rosario in a package to the D-Backs for Robbie Ray and Dinkel ?? (the kid who is just 25 and strikes everybody out. I would still sign Pineda in this scenario and have a staff of: Berrios, Wheeler, Gray, Odorizzi and Ray with Pineda to be available to start or relieve like Graterol. That way you've got depth in the starting rotation and power arms in the bullpen. If the Twins added Story, say hello to Kiriloff or Larnach in LF. 1. Arraez 3B 2. Polanco 2B 3. Cruz DH 4. Story SS 5. Kepler RF 6. Sano 1B 7. Garver C 8. Kiriloff/Larnach LF (these 2 kids can flat out HIT) 9. Buxton CF SP Berrios, Wheeler, Gray, Odorizzi, R. Ray BP T. Rogers, May, T. Duffey, Graterol, Pineda, Romo, etc... This would be a HELL of a team !!!
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I like your trade, but you forgot to list Robbie Ray in the SP's. I understand the D-Backs want controllable SP'ing, but none of Graterol, Balazovic and Duran are being included in that deal. The D-Backs have LOTS of holes. Your trade fills a LOT of them. Strikeout pitchers like Wheeler and Ray added to Berrios gives us pitchers that can miss bats. We need that. Plus, Kevin Ginkel is REALLY intriguing. He might be just as important as Ray in the deal.
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Every Team Wants Zack Wheeler
TopGunn#22 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The reason Wheeler is so intriguing is because he has elite "stuff." A BIG fastball and excellent spin rate on his slider. The belief/expectation is that Wes Johnson can unlock much more of that potential than the Mets ever did. In fact, with the exception of deGrom, guys like Wheeler, Thor, Edwin Diaz etc...have not been used/coached properly by the Mets. (and this shows how damn good degrom really is). I get that Cornholio is skeptical, but Wheeler makes waaaay to much sense for the Twins. Sure, kick the tires on Cole. He's a bona-fide ACE. In fact, not just an ACE, but one of the top 3-4 starting pitchers in baseball. Would I prefer Cole fronting the Twins staff? ABSOLUTELY !! But Wheeler at 5-$100 million (or 5-$110 if necessary) is a GOOD signing for the Twins.- 213 replies
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I agree with Seth S. on the future projections of Kiriloff and Larnach. I'm not sure Raley has more power than both but Rooker does. I believe Kiriloff and Larnach could hit right now in the big leagues. They will certainly get on base at a higher clip than Rosario. We cannot keep/play ALL of these 4 guys. I would love to see a way we can keep Kiriloff and Larnach and trade Rooker & Raley in packages to add more pitching. Imagine Rooker in Fenway Park or Coors Field. The Twins may not START the season with Kiriloff and/or Larnach, but one in LF and one at 1B is certainly (or at least SHOULD BE) possible in 2020. I 100% agree with beckmt...Kiriloff & Larnach scream professional hitters. Get them up to the big league club.
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Jhoan Duran Headlines Twins Roster Additions
TopGunn#22 replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Wander Javier is worth gambling losing in the Rule 5 draft even though I'm a big fan of his potential. After his last 2 injury marred seasons I'd be surprised if someone grabbed him. This should give him a year back with the Twins to rebuild some value. I agree with Mike on Jax and i could even see someone grabbing Luis Rijo.- 44 replies
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Cruz is the glue that holds our lineup together. Heck, if he's mashing again next season, I'd consider extending his contract another year. You never know when his talent will start to slip, but he was a MASHER last year and I believe was a big reason many hitters took a step forward. He's just a professional hitter.
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Offseason Blueprint: Spending Every Penny
TopGunn#22 replied to Cooper Carlson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Nice job. This was a fun read. However, some thoughts: No Gibson. Don't want a sequel to "The Nibbler." The points guys are making about trading for Betts, spot on. Plus, Betts is a Gold Glove RF'er. He'd play RF, Kepler would play LF. Rendon will sign with the Dodgers...if we want a 3B-man go after Moose. Wheeler will need 5 yrs, $110 million.. Ryu would just resign with the Dodgers for 3 yrs $51 million. We'd need $20 million a year to get him. And lastly, my lineup would be: 1 Arraes 2. Polaco 3. Betts 4. Cruz 5. Rendon 6. Kepler 7. Garver/Grandal 8. Sano 9. Buxton This was FUN. Keep them coming. -
Team friendly contract, CF protection for Buxton injuries, more power, gets on base at a much better clip, runs better (both the bases and in the outfield). That's why you keep Kepler and trade Eddie. Maybe in 2022, when Larnach and Kiriloff are both raking and you're set at 1B with Sano or Rooker...maybe then you trade Kepler. But there's very good reasons "everyone" is discussing Eddie in trade scenarios instead of Max. And we've just listed them.
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Offseason Blueprint: Run It Back
TopGunn#22 replied to Nash Walker's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
No. Just NO. Goodbye Gibson. Goodbye Perez. Schoop was decent, but Arraez makes him unnecessary. No Castro. etc... etc... etc... This group wasn't good enough to get the job done in 2019 despite a HR record. We need better starting pitchers and a RH'ed complement to Rogers at the back of our pen (Ken Giles). Sign Wheeler. Don't be out-bid. Trade for a Robbie Ray/John Gray type. Larnach and Kiriloff are closer than people think. They will both hit. Use Graterol like the Twins did Johan Santana for the first half of the season (or until we call him up mid-May) and then either leave him in his role and add a SP at the trade deadline or move him in as starter #5. -
This is another reason to trade Eddie this winter (and no I'm not a hater). His value will never be higher. Arizona needs a corner OF'er with power. Package Eddie with a couple prospects not too high on our lists for Robbie Ray and Archie Bradley. Ray is needed more in our rotation than Eddie in the lineup and Bradley could be an excellent RH complement to Taylor Rogers in the bullpen. Sign Wheeler and you've got a staff of Berrios, Wheeler, Ray and Odorizzi and you can figure out who #5 is later. Larnach and Kiriloff are coming soon... THIS YEAR. They can play LF and some 1B.
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Yet Another 2020 Blueprint: Wheeler and Ray, Let's Play!
TopGunn#22 commented on Long Live La Tortuga's blog entry in Long Live La Tortuga
Yes Lonestar ! Getting Giles to be the RH complement to Rogers is a great move. BUT...who are we giving up ? What is a reasonable price for Giles ?? Ray and Wheeler are my targets for the pitching staff as well. One FA and one thru trade. In my mind, I was always trading Eddie for Ray. I think Larnach and Kiriloff are going to be better hitters than Eddie, maybe even fairly early in their careers. BUT...will they be better in 2020 ?? They won't have the power, but they might get on base more consistently. Moreland is good as a LH 1B to platoon and the defensive upgrade is excellent. Avilia is O.K. as a LH complement to garver, but 5-million seems a bit rich for him. Brock Holt is very intriguing. He's very much like marwan without the power and I like your idea of having him after we part ways with Marwan. Great ideas !! -
Offseason Blueprint: Building a Bullpenner
TopGunn#22 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
A couple of guys have laid out a very interesting and detailed plan. It's always fun to read them over and agree or disagree with various moves. I don't know if it's realistic but I would make Wheeler my FA starting pitcher priority and if I can swing a deal for Syndergaard (even if it includes Buxton) I just MIGHT do it. That said, if we hang on to Buxton (which I would be fine with--I only give him up if I'm getting Thor) I go for Wheeler 5yrs $100 million, Odorizzi 3yrs $42 million and Porcello 2-3 yrs 8-10 million per year. Balazovic will be up soon and i think sometime in May Graterol is up and pitching 2 inning relief appearances with a look to move him into the rotation later in the year or next season (much like how the Twins handled Johan Santana). Keep 'em coming boys, this is fun !! -
The Twins Shouldn't Give Up on Rosario
TopGunn#22 replied to Thiéres Rabelo's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I can't speak for everyone looking to trade Eddie, but I will speak for myself. I LIKE Eddie Rosario. No "Hate" involved here. But we need to fill FOUR of our 5 starting pitching slots and we've got not one, but TWO young corner outfielder types in Larnach and Kiriloff that WILL be better hitters than Eddie. I look at our roster and where else are you going to get a GOOD starting pitcher? There's a reason Eddie's name keeps coming up. He's not as bad as people are making him out to be. he's actually pretty darn good. There will be more than a handful of teams that could use a 32 HR 109 RBI guy in their lineup. But honestly, our lineup can withstand losing Eddie's bat if it brings us back a solid #2 or #3 type. I guarantee you, once Larnach and Kiriloff make it to the big leagues, with whatever team they end up on, they will be more productive overall than Eddie. They will both see more pitches and be tougher outs. But Eddie could really help a team that needs some sock in one of their corner outfield positions. -
I agree with beckmt, the Twins should go hard right out of the gate at 7 yrs/240 million. They can afford this to get one of the top 2-3 pitchers in the game and it puts pressure on the Dodgers and the Yanks with the luxury tax. The Twins are uniquely positioned to do this. Their core is young and affordable. They have Cruz for one more year and he will probably produce far beyond his contract. All thru the Johan Santana, Mauer, Morneau etc... years they NEVER did this. It's time to FINALLY step up and make some noise. They could go 7/240 million for Cole and STILL afford to make a play for Wheeler. (Cole, Berrios, Odorizzi, Wheeler and then Dobnak) would be pretty awesome. *The Twins make a QO to Odorizzi and retain him. They could also trade Rosario for a SP because I believe a stop gap LF'er like Av. Garcia can hold down the fort until either Larnach or Kiriloff hits the big leagues and makes us forgot all about Eddie. Get a stud like Cole to lead your staff. Continue to develop Berrios and keep an eye on Graterol and Balazovic and the Twins could be a formidable team for many, many years. But for goodness sake Ownership/Front Office...step up to the plate and SWING BIG for once !!!
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Maybe the Twins Should Go All in On Anthony Rendon
TopGunn#22 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If Rendon ended up in Houston what happens with Bregman and Correa ?? Do the Stro's move Bregman to SS fulltime and trade Correa ???- 64 replies
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Assessing Eddie Rosario's Trade Market
TopGunn#22 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
That's a great point HrbieFan, the Braves are a possibility. Oakland has a need. But I think the D-Backs are the fit. Archie Bradley intrigues me, but the Twins need starting pitching more than bullpen. I'm using Eddie in a package to get Robbie Ray. Ray takes the place of Kyle Gibson, which would be a tremendous upgrade in flat out "Stuff" to our pitching staff. If they want, the Twins and D-Backs could expand the deal to include both Ray and Bradley---maybe the Twins offer Nick Gordon and Blaine Enlow ? -
Eddie Rosario Continued to Trend Downward in 2019
TopGunn#22 replied to Cooper Carlson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I agree with a lot of what Doc Bauer says, but I truly believe Larnach or Kiriloff will be ready sometime in 2020. They won't break with the club, but to see one of them up in May or June wouldn't surprise me at all. Eddie has warts and we've all become very familiar with them. But 32 HR's and 109 RBI's just don't fall out of trees every day. Not many teams have a Larnach or Kiriloff knocking on the door. I still think a package of Eddie and Nick Gordon to a team like Arizona could get us Robbie Ray. If the Twins were to trade Eddie for a pitcher like Ray and then sign a veteran OF'er like Garcia or Dickerson (I prefer Garcia, he's a RH bat) then they can afford to be patient with Larnach/Kiriloff. But one of them is going to make it up in 2020 and whoever it is will be a tougher out than Eddie. -
Adding an Outfielder for the 2020 Twins
TopGunn#22 commented on Ted Schwerzler 's blog entry in Off The Baggy
Dickerson is probably the best option for me. Unlike others, I beleive Eddie WILL be on the move. Dickerson gives Larnach and Kiriloff at least half the year to make the jump. Dickerson is a good glove and a bat with some sock. Eddie needs to be moved for a starting pitcher. Reunite him with Escobar in Arizona in a package for Robbie Ray and Bradley.- 6 comments
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