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Maybe if we spent the $35 million with 25 of it going to Verlander (or say 30 to get him away from Houston), the extra on other better pitching than we did, and bet on Royce Lewis to play short and not had him in center to run into the wall........ we might have been in a better position. That's another bet. But I think we all just hope that Correa gets hot and actually carries the team the rest of the year and wins some playoff games. One can hope.......

Whoa! How did we get from "compared to what" (your question) and a comparable performance to last year...... to an absolute failure? Whoa. That is a huge leap. I didn't and won't go there. I know that the FO was certainly hoping for more with what they forked out. I would take a couple of other years, too. Of course he is not an absolute failure. I sure wish, as many others do, that he was having a much better year, though. I bet Correa wishes he was having a much better year, too. Correa holds a high bar, especially since he is paid around 25% of the teams salary. I would say more but I have used up all my accused narrow mind's capacity, and I have a Garden Party to go to..........

Compared to expected performance comparable to last year and worthy of $35 million for the year.

As do I agree with the refs umpires on the field. Stated many times clearly. But that doesn't change the official review and call, or the understanding of why they did it, unfortunatley.

I always thought if you couldn't do it at first, or second or third base, then you shouldn't be able to do it at home. I would call the old rule closer to football - where the main intention is to lay the hurt on the opposing team and hit them - than baseball. I like that a player can't take out the second baseman or shortstop (or the third baseman who might be there these days) and not even be close to touching second, and I like the new rule at home. A lot. I like the on field call that was made. I think Beckham made a great and lucky throw (that with a bit more luck could have gotten to Sanchez even sooner.) I think the reviewing personel made the mistake interpreting the rule in relation to the play that occured, not the rule is bad.

You tell people that they have a bad take all the time and that their take is not correct. You are doing it here. That's fine. Maybe you don't think so, but that is how I read it And not necessarily in response to my take, but to others' takes more than mine. "No, you can't expect better than throwing someone out at the plate." - You are not allowed to expect better. - Now you are basically telling people to stop complaining, when they are not complaining, but pointing out nuances that affected the timing of the great throw arriving later than it could have. Basically telling people to not say what they are saying because they are wrong, in your opinion. A player can have a great get and a horrible throw on the same play. If the net net result is a two base error, is it a bad play because the guy saved a double but threw the ball away and it became a two base error and the runner ends up safe at third? (I admire the great get, and shake my head about the horrible judgement to throw a ball that would not have got the runner at first anyway, and the net result.) Or is it both a great play and a bad play in the same total event? It can be both. I bet Beckham would even say he made a lucky throw, as he knows he isn't an outfielder - probably saying to himself as the ball is coming to him "it just had to come to me.....". I thought he is capable and Beckham knows he is capable and that it was a lucky throw. Most like this are, even when it is someone that has a history of great throws. I don't think this was a bad play at all, even with the double clutch to make sure he had the ball in the proper grip to make the great throw. I think it was a bad review. Everyone knows that the throw was made by an infielder who Baldelli ended up having in leftfield and the throw was great. Some pointed out that extra time was added to the play and identified where. Critical observation and thinking is not complaining. That is how even champions get better.

Maybe for you. But the call was officially overturned. Perhaps it is you that is spewing pointless quibble. Obviously it was viewed differently by those that could make the ruling.

You realize that critical thinking and exacting observation is not a complaint, right?

It was not irrelevant. After all, it was overturned. The throw didn't beat him easy.... or by a mile as another posted stated at the beginning of the thread. It did beat him, and he was out for sure. Gotta think that it might not have been overturned if the ball had been there sooner. The home-plate collision rule states that the catcher is not allowed to block the runner’s path to the plate unless he is in possession of the ball or making a “legitimate attempt” to receive a throw. Just that little bit sooner and Sanchez is allowed by rule to be in the runner's path. Then it is upheld. It should have been upheld anyway, but that could have been the kicker.

start at the beginning for the arguments.... definitely worth it. This goes right to Complaints.

Absolutely. Double clutched. The game wasn't lost on that poor call. It was lost on Kepler's boneheaded baserunning, not tagging and advancing to third, and then scoring on Gordon's deep grounder. That wouldn't have won the game, but it provided the loss. It should have tied the game.

This really makes me laugh. Since July 17, Correa has had 5 days off for the All-Star break July 18-22, had Monday July 25, Thursday July 28, today, and tomorrow. That will be 9 of 22 days OFF!! Since the All-Star break, there were the 2 days off and today (for Correa) and tomorrow..... 4 of 17. And he will get another day off on Thursday - that will be 3 days off in 5 days! I hope a 27 year old athlete in his prime that gets to play baseball for work and gets paid $35 million a year for it can stand all the intense activity. We don't need him to be a robot, just a baseball player that wants to play and earn his $35 million,

If Mauer gets in, the Twins will then have one more than the six from days gone by and the franchise was in Washington as the Senators/Nationals/Senators - Hall of Fame members Goose Goslin, Sam Rice, Joe Cronin, Bucky Harris, Heinie Manush and one of the greatest players and pitchers of all time, Walter Johnson.

That really sucks! F that decision. And Kepler...... he should have been in position to score the winning run on Gordon's ground out. They will be showing this sequence on Sports Center over and over.

We need a cheap wild pitch!

Does Kepler score on the grounder if he didn't mess up and was on third? OVB needs to tell us about the odds of scoring one more time. Maybe that will help.

Of course we blow the baserunning........

We will see if the baseball gods correct the injustice.

Great to see Baldelli have some EMOTION! Thielbar needs to focus. That was a weak effort.

Do you pinch run for Sanchez, now?

Finally starting to get from 1st to third! Attta buddy Beckham.

Damn. Middle middle and Buxton just looks at it.

Interesting that Sands, the right hander, was pulled against righty, Chapman, and lefty Thielbar was the choice. Is there splits that show Thielbar more effective against righties, or Champman less against lefties? Anybody know, right off hand, (ha)?

3 games. Probably Mahle, Bundy, and Archer. I, unlike many, am not enthralled by Mahle. His actual performance is more improtant than the predictive stats to me. And the 3 homers and 4 earned in 6 was not a great starting point. I will probably pass. But if they sweep the Dodgers...... maybe.......

I just checked and saw that I will draw Ryan and Gray for the 2 games at Dodger Stadium on Tuesday and Wednesday. Not motivated for the weekend in Anahiem with Bundy and Archer to probably go on Saturday and Sunday. I hope they play the "stars", even if they are pretty cold. That is why we go to the games.