Dantes929
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I especially like this paragraph. You may not like that we don't have what is commonly known as an ace but we have seen Berrios and Odorizzi pitch like aces and shut down good teams. We have also seen aces get knocked around. You would prefer to have the better bets as you say but that is all they are. In any given game with Verlander vs Berrios it is probably something like 60-40 in favor of Verlander but its not more than that. KC won without aces. The 16 game losing streak is a complete anomaly. Statistics say we should have been more like 9-16 in that time and maybe even advanced at least once. I also liked that it was pointed out we took two of three from Cole and Verlander.
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Rocco Baldelli and the Three-Batter Minimum
Dantes929 replied to Matthew Trueblood's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Ok, in 4 posts we've got like the shift, don't like the shift. Like the new rule, don't like the new rule. Like the pitch clock, don't like the pitch clock. My vote is for all three. If the next one that posts is against all 3 that would be about right. -
Comparing Kenta Maeda to the Free Agent Starters
Dantes929 replied to Cooper Carlson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I would also have put Ryu at the top. I still don't get the feeding frenzy over Wheeler. Nice pitcher that I would like to have but at the price for that length? Honestly, if he had come through the system for the Twins, fans here would be calling him a mid rotation guy. If the price were equal I would give him the edge over Maeda and Bum but the price isn't anywhere near equal though it is a point well taken that the jury is out on the price of Graterol. -
Spring Training Game Thread: Twins @ Rays 2/26/202020ad
Dantes929 replied to sampleSizeOfOne's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
That's exactly how its done but only if you don't actually believe its true. That is what Spring Training is for. We make fun of those fans that make that kind of hindsight, unreasonable comment during the season. Then once the regular season arrives we become the fans that make that kind of hindsight, unreasonable comment but no longer believe its hindsight or unreasonable. There should really be an instruction manual for TD commentary. I'm thinking a good project for Randball. -
Game Thread Red Sox vs. Twins 2/24 12:05 CDT
Dantes929 replied to Diesel's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Welcome to the site. Great content and even though opinions vary greatly the moderators do a good job of keeping things civil and respectful. Debates on the articles can get a little heated sometimes but the game threads are mostly the equivalent of watching the game with your smart ass brother. Conversation can go off on any tangent and sometimes we even talk about the game. -
Game Thread Red Sox vs. Twins 2/24 12:05 CDT
Dantes929 replied to Diesel's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Another example of a good trade that went bad. Lombo wasn't really all that good in 87 and was hitting .094 through April of 88. Herr was coming off a strong season of .393 OBP and looked like a perfect fi for the lineup that needed table setterst. As an aside I liked Bruno ok but not more than that. Anyway, Herr's stats with the Twins weren't all that bad but he was pretty open about not wanting to be here and really seemed like one of those cancers that suck the life out of a team. -
Game Thread Red Sox vs. Twins 2/24 12:05 CDT
Dantes929 replied to Diesel's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Well, I am assuming a sampleSizeOfOne and its you saying it. -
Game Thread Red Sox vs. Twins 2/24 12:05 CDT
Dantes929 replied to Diesel's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Yeah, but this is the only time we can overreact to small sample size. The more games we get into it the less we can overreact. People don't seem to realize these early Spring Training games mean just as much as the late Spring Training games. -
I think you are rating them on best side potential which I hope is the way it develops but way premature. I am thinking more like 2010 Pavano, Liriano and Baker. They were pretty good which is where I rate these three. Depth is better with this squad but the subject is trio. 2007 Santana, Garza and Silva were pretty good. My top trio if we are going back as far as the 80's would be the 2006 staff. Santana was Cy Young, before he got hurt Liriano was in the process of overtaking Santana for the Cy Young so very good chance of having the top two starters in the league but for injury with Twins HOFer Brad Radke filling out the trio.
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Game Thread Red Sox vs. Twins 2/24 12:05 CDT
Dantes929 replied to Diesel's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Definitely joking. Chief likes to overreact to small sample size early in the season. Its one of his many shticks. 1 hit and 1 walk in two innings isn't bad for a first outing. Interesting last comment though. I can't tell if you are joking or bashing. How is MN different than LA or Japan and how does it matter when they are playing in Florida? lol -
Most years I can imagine a path whereby the Twins make the playoffs and after that it is really not that hard to imagine guys like Berrios or Odorizzi stepping up big and the Twins getting hot regardless of the dismal showings of the past. This year it is just a little easier to do the imagining. I don't like talking about the playoffs in February or even March, April, May, June, July or August. Simply put, if the Yankees, Astros and Twins were all in the same division where would you put your money to take 1st place. Thats really a better test of who the best team is anyway. Mine would be on the Yankees, then the Astros and then the Twins, so no, the Twins are not the best team in the American League. I'm hoping they are the best team in the AL Central.
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I will respectfully mostly disagree with you. Every ST we get a Bryan or a Luke or an Aaron someone just tear up Spring Training while guys like Morneau, or Thome or Kepler bat .110 and it really does mean very little. I am guessing 21 or more spots are set right now and Spring Training really is just training. Its not a tryout. Barring injuries there is probably about 1 utility and maybe a couple pitching spots that are so close that ST performance might mean something.
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Twins Defeat Gophers In Frigid Affair
Dantes929 replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
My understanding is the guidelines for aluminum bats make their performance about the same as wood bats anyway. I know a top pitcher for a good D1 school on a good day with a little luck can hold down a team like the Twins fielded yesterday but even 4th-6th pitchers are going to be better than batting practice. Weather was unfortunate but I think both sides would have enjoyed the game otherwise. Early days and no one really cares about the results. Ironically I then ask whether there is a box score for the game. Which of the Twins did well? How long did Dobnak go and how did he look? -
I used to be annoyed with this kind of stuff thinking it was completely preventable but if he was here for Twins fest with no problems I can understand why that would lead him to believe there should be no problems now. I have no idea what the issues are or how much control he or the team has over it so am not going to hold it against him. As long as he is able to get his work in what he is losing is instruction time for a week. I don't think that should be make or break.
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On the trib boards I was the lonely voice in the wilderness saying it didn't make baseball sense signing him to an extension at or near market value after his MVP season. It did make a ton of marketing expense with the new stadium and I wasn't against it because I was a fan of Joe's also and regardless of the contract he was still really good at baseball. I also never complained about the deal afterwards. The main problem I have with big free agency contracts is that you are paying them for good years they had with someone else. At least with our own players the good years were with us. Thanks for the history lesson on TD. I thought I just discovered it after everyone else.
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Love seeing posts like this. Lets everyone know where they stood at the time rather than where they remember they stood. Don;t think I was on here in 2009 but would love to see where everyone stood on Mauer extension rather than where everyone said they stood. I remember on the Trib pages it was over 99% for extending Mauer no matter the cost. A few years later about 99% maintain that they were against the deal all along. In this case, my memory was correct in that I liked the Odorizzi signing while also reminding me I would have preferred Cobb. Is it too late to go back and edit? Also the first time I marked like on a comment two years after it was posted. Also makes me wonder what happened to jimmers.
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Fascinating Facts About 5 New Twins Players
Dantes929 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Little known fact. Out of habit, the Astros continued to hit the garbage cans during a couple of Clippard's early appearances, thus tipping off the opposing team;s batters, thus accounting for Clippard's high ERA that year.- 21 replies
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Twins Daily 2020 Top Prospects: #2 Alex Kirilloff
Dantes929 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I was thrilled with Cruz last year. I hope to be thrilled with him this year but Father Time is undefeated and no matter how good he is this year I would be hesitant to bring him back in 2021. If Kiriloff and Larmach have good years I am hoping they along with Kepler will have the corners and 1st base covered with Sano at DH next year. -
Of course Joe was a former ASTRO! Awesome, though it probably means we need to vacate the 87 crown as well.
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Offseason Status Update: Final Grades
Dantes929 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I remember liking the Davis signing a lot. I liked the Morris signing but he was 35 coming off two mediocre seasons. Another case of getting an A because the players did way better than expected. Kind of the equivalent of signing Bumgarner 6 years from now after two years of 4.5 to 4.9 ERA. 2003 was a great off season. Aj for Nathan, Liriano and Bonser and cleared space for Mauer. Matt Guerrier off waivers. Signed free agent Shannon Stewart. Got Punto and Silva for Milton who never pitched well again. I probably should have left Guerrier, Punto and Silva off the list because I had never heard of Guerrier and I don't remember how I felt about the Milton deal at the time. -
Offseason Status Update: Final Grades
Dantes929 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I take the exact opposite stance. They have no control over how the player performs.. If the Twins had done absolutely nothing would you still hold off on grading them? If they had done absolutely nothing and got to the WS would you give them high grades for doing nothing. Hindsight will tell you whether a transaction worked out well but not whether it was a good transaction to start with. A couple years ago they signed Odo, Lynn and Morrison. I thought they were great moves. All three of them. They just didn't work out but the success Odo and Lynn had last year says they could just have easily worked out in 2018. Its kind of no different than in game management. You can walk Nick Punto to get to Mike Trout and if you get Trout out does that mean it was a good move? If you walk Mike Trout to get to Nick Punto and Punto gets a hit was that a bad move to walk Trout? I give the Twins a solid B. I think Maida was a decent move. Risky but worth taking. Donaldson improves the defense and the lineup and all it costs is money but that money in year 3 and 4 might have alternative value. A little lower grade for Donaldson but still ok. A's for resigning Odorizzi and Pineda whether they have good seasons or not. C's for Bailey and Chacin because I wanted at least 1 spot for internal options. I would have given a B if they had just signed Bailey. B+ for signing Clippard especially since that mitigates the loss of Graterol. -
Kind of the point. Most of the fans, myself included have loyalty to the team and not the players but that is how we grew up. Don't you think it is different with the younger generation? What players have team loyalty? Joe Mauer, Paul Konerko and Aaron Trout are the only ones that come to mind. Players are controlled for the first half dozen years or so and then sign extensions or free agency contracts that are good for them first, and good for the teams only as a byproduct. People say he is selfish but I find him rather refreshing. He is saying pay me well for the year I have just had.and we will go year by year. Is it somehow better to say pay me well for the next 8 years for the year I just had whether I pitch well or not. Is that how you define loyalty?
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No way do you sign an extension for Cruz. Closest comp is Thome. He looked just as super human at 39. Was pretty good at 40 and marginal at 41. You see how this year goes and offer him market value if you want him back. Don't extend but maybe resign. Odo is gone but we;ll have Berrios, PIneada and Maeda. If we don't have two great internal options by then it will be quite depressing.
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Twins Daily 2020 Top Prospects: #6 Jhoan Duran
Dantes929 replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I heard Nick Punto is making a come back.- 23 replies
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