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    What's so Bad About Max Kepler?


    Hans Birkeland

    Max Kepler has been a little better lately, but Twins' fans still want him gone. What's our deal?

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    I get why people are sick of Max Kepler. He looked like a transcendent talent eight years ago;  a sweet-swinging lefty who slowly rose to dominance over minor-league competition after signing as a raw 16-year-old wild card out of Germany. He looked great doing everything and the expectations were sky-high. He then treaded water his first few seasons in the big leagues, holding his own offensively, slashing .233/.313/.417, while flourishing defensively. His metrics looked good, his BABIP looked low, and the Twins were so sure of a breakout they gave Kepler a long-term extension, potentially buying out several of his free agent years.

    The breakout seemed to come in 2019, when he popped 36 home runs and got MVP votes, but in retrospect we all know it had to do with the juiced ball that year. He’s reverted to the form he showed from 2016-2018 since then, which is worth about 3.0 WAR over a 162 game sample. He still plays great defense, doesn’t strike out and offers 20 home run power. His career OBP is .315, which is pretty playable given that.

    So the crusade against him is a bit much, with Aaron Gleeman-types offering the same critiques (poor contact quality, not being as good as we thought, blocking other prospects) and thinking if they repeat them over and over, it makes the case more compelling.

    But let’s be real here. The contact quality issue is ever-present, but he nonetheless puts up average offensive numbers, with a career 100 OPS+. He isn’t as good as we thought but who cares; this isn’t a sunk cost... developing average players is good! I had a commenter in a piece I did on Alex Kirilloff complain that seeing Kirilloff having a Kirk Gibson-like career would be a disappointment, so it's no surprise Twins fans are disappointed Kepler didn’t turn into Paul O’Neill

    Part of the frustration with Kepler is when he makes an impact. His production comes in drips, not bursts (like Byron Buxton). He needs to get his timing right before he’s impactful, but once he does, he’ll give you a hard hit ball every game against a right-hander. It’s not sexy but it is pretty valuable over time, and even this year, a recent hot drip (.298/.355/.614) has raised his OPS by 107 points since he was chastised for his baserunning mistake in Tampa.

    And it's not like the Twins’ other options are great. Or, we can't prove that yet. Matt Wallner and Trevor Larnach aren’t exactly Mays and Mantle. Wallner is cited by Gleeman ad-nauseum as the “back-to-back Twins minor league player of the year,” in trying to justify giving him runway. Except Gleeman himself has always been the one to put that honor in quotation marks because the award tends to reward players who dominate the high minors but aren’t anticipated to do well in the majors. Previous winners include Randy Dobnak, Kennys Vargas and Zach Granite. And Wallner may fit that bill, as well. Keith Law placed him 15th on his preseason rankings of Twins prospects, with the following comment:

    "Wallner has an 80 arm and plus raw power with terrible pitch recognition — the man just does not hit offspeed stuff anywhere near often enough to be a regular, with massive strikeout rates last year: 30 percent in Triple A, 38.5 percent in the majors."

    Fangraphs puts Wallner eighth on their mid-season Twins prospect rankings, noting that his 70% zone contact rate would have ranked as the lowest in all of baseball, five percent lower than Josh Donaldson who was the next worst. Baseball Prospectus ranked Wallner tenth, with the note that, “Few hitters find sustained success in MLB making such little contact as Wallner did in his debut.” Where did Gleeman rank him? Fourth.

    Us having collective ADHD and wanting novelty and star level performance at all times is no reason to ditch a perfectly average big league regular like Kepler. Sure, Wallner threw out Brandon Belt and his necrotic knees trying for a double once, but Kepler would have made the catch on that same ball without leaving his feet. And do the Twins need more swing and miss in their lineup?

    Larnach is a decent fielder, much better than Wallner but without the range of the more athletic Kepler. He also has had a full season’s worth of games in the majors and hasn’t hit for any power, with 18 career home runs in 177 career games. Some of that lack of production happened while Larnach was fighting through injury (more on that next paragraph), but this year his OPS+ sits at a Kepler-ish 92, meaning eight percent below average.

    Kepler just hasn’t been that bad, especially if you parse out his injuries in your analysis similar to how we evaluate Larnach. He contributed 2.2 bWAR last year despite playing for two months with a broken toe, ranking between Joe Ryan and Nick Gordon for the season totals in bWAR. While playing with that injury he posted a sub .500 OPS.

    This is where Gleeman in particular is most disingenuous. He has never mentioned Kepler’s toe injury in any of his analyses that I’m aware of, but he has mentioned on a few occasions that Kepler is not one to play through injury, viewing him as a player who likes to be 100%. Which is it?

    What I expect from Kepler is exactly what he was producing last year prior to the toe injury- .244/.344/.390 with good defense in right field. He’s shown the ability to be a little better than that, but as is, that is a three WAR player, and the sort of production any team should be happy to pencil in from their seventh or eighth best hitter. Look at any team (besides the Braves) and tell me how good their seven-hole hitter is.

    Of course, this Twins team needs to get their offense going, and Kepler hasn’t helped much overall. But the focus shouldn’t be on sacrificing defense in favor of mystery boxes. Peter Griffin put it best when offered the choice between a mystery box and a boat. “A boat's a boat but the mystery box could be anything, it could even be a boat!”

    Similarly, on a recent podcast, Gleeman mentioned the downside of cutting Kepler was that Wallner and Larnach don’t perform. “Then you can just trade for another team’s Max Kepler.” was his solution.

    Kepler is also important to the clubhouse, and you could see he was one of the more emotional players coming out of the much-ballyhooed team meeting, cussing out the plate umpire on a brutal called strike in Baltimore, which I can’t remember him doing, ever, and giving perhaps the most dramatic bat flip for the Twins all year one at-bat later. Max Kepler is playing defense and posting a .730 OPS while not striking out that much. He is not the problem.

    As much as you, me and Gleeman all want to see the next shiny toy without enough experience to have a cap on their projection, I’m glad the Twins’ brass stuck to their guns and didn’t do a knee-jerk DFA weeks ago when Kepler was struggling the most.

    Kepler is vegetable lasagna, a lower octane Nick Swisher, a younger Mark Canha, a prettier Austin Kearns. And he’s making less than Gio Urshela. Give him a break.

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    4 hours ago, Hans Birkeland said:

    Every year the Twins are decent, the knock against them is starting pitching.

    Every year when analysts look at the dark horses or favorites going into the postseason, its the teams with the best starting pitching that are highlighted.

    Now, the starting pitching has to stay healthy, but imagine Gray, Ryan and Lopez with Ober kicked to the bullpen for the playoffs. This is a golden opportunity with how terrible our division is. If you don't give it a shot, why even try?

    Every year? They've finished 5th and 3rd the last two years in this terrible division. 

    The lineup, which has struggled all year, also has to face playoff rotations. There won't be a 39 year old, washed up Zack Greinke trying to squeeze out a 6th inning after being battered in the first 5, during playoff contests. 

    You can "give it a shot," without pushing in valuable chips on a very flawed team. 

    4 hours ago, stringer bell said:

    I don’t buy that they are a hopeless case just because they stumbled for most of the first half. The recent past is filled with teams that didn’t look like championship caliber, but turned it around (Off the top of my head—‘19 Nationals, ‘21 Braves and ‘22 Phils). The pitching has been top notch and it’s supposed to be between 60 and 75 percent of the game. There is so much room for improvement from established players (Correa, Buxton & Polanco) and some young guys might step forward (Lewis, Kirilloff, Julien Jeffers).

    The Twins have been handed an invitation to the playoffs. I think they should take that invitation. 

    Why should we take them seriously as an actual WS contender? That's the better question. They've stumbled through the first 80+ games of the year, and despite having the massive advantage of playing in the ALC, they're fighting just to stay around .500. A regression argument that ignores the other side of that coin isn't all that compelling. 

    Take the invitation, don't try to keep up with the Joneses. 

    3 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

    Every year? They've finished 5th and 3rd the last two years in this terrible division. 

    The lineup, which has struggled all year, also has to face playoff rotations. There won't be a 39 year old, washed up Zack Greinke trying to squeeze out a 6th inning after being battered in the first 5, during playoff contests. 

    You can "give it a shot," without pushing in valuable chips on a very flawed team. 

    Why should we take them seriously as an actual WS contender? That's the better question. They've stumbled through the first 80+ games of the year, and despite having the massive advantage of playing in the ALC, they're fighting just to stay around .500. A regression argument that ignores the other side of that coin isn't all that compelling. 

    Take the invitation, don't try to keep up with the Joneses. 

    The schedule in the first half wasn't playing a bunch of ALC teams, so I'm not sure I understand that second to last paragraph. I agree they aren't great, but that has nothing to do with the division. 

    Even with the current hot streak he's on, he's still got a subpar OPS+ of 94 and is still getting on base at a sub .300 clip. At least his power is back, with 12 HRs in 214 PAs compared to 9 last year in 446. Still, I'd trade him while he still has some value, as I wouldn't be shocked if this turns out to be the high point for him this year.

    I think there is a perception that Kepler doesn't care enough, as well. I was watching him make that catch along the foul line last night, and I noticed he started slowing up when he was still 15 feet from the ball which allowed him to make the catch and avoid any issues with the stands/netting. Jake Cave would have had a worse jump but still made the catch, flown top speed into the stands, busted his lip and worn it as a badge of honor. Kind of a Robinson Cano vs Derek Jeter thing. Same result, but fans tend to embrace the guy who busted his lip for the team.

    25 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

    Ridiculous. It's about 4 years of not being good. Seriously. 

    The words they write about him contradict that, but that is your opinion and I have mine.

    I will admit he was bad last year, have gone from 10-0 in 2021 stealing bases to 3-2 which meant some thing had changed drastically in the way he approached the game.

    7 hours ago, Hans Birkeland said:

     

    The Phillies were terrible defensively and went out and got Brandon Marsh, who solidified center field for them. They also got rid of Didi Gregorius and traded for Edmundo Sosa, who was great defensively for them.

    As for trading Kepler, it has to be for something that improves the team now. I don't think Lane Thomas is that guy, maybe Connor Joe of the Pirates who can really hit lefties but has no track record of success. Jorge Soler again but he's such a Jekyl and Hyde kind of player I don't think he improves the team much, either with his poor defense.

    If the team goes out and gets a bat, it needs to be Justin Turner or better, and even that carries risk outside of the prospect capital required.

    Brandon Marsh was far from an established ML player when he was acquired.  They basically traded a major league ready player for one with 1 year of service time.  Marsh is not a free agent until 2028.  This is a far different scenario than trading prospects for a rental or a player with an extra year of control.  This is not an example of a marginal team trading prospects for short-term players.  The Twins trading Wallner for a major league ready catcher is a very different scenario than trading him for a rental.  Edmundo Sosa produced 1.2 WAR in 22.  Is he really an example of the type of player that would elevate the twins into contention? 

    Kepler is highly unlikely to bring back an established player.  Any team looking for someone like Kepler to help short-term is not looking to give up established players in return. At least not an established player of any value.

    43 minutes ago, Major League Ready said:

    Brandon Marsh was far from an established ML player when he was acquired.  They basically traded a major league ready player for one with 1 year of service time.  Marsh is not a free agent until 2028.  This is a far different scenario than trading prospects for a rental or a player with an extra year of control.  This is not an example of a marginal team trading prospects for short-term players.  The Twins trading Wallner for a major league ready catcher is a very different scenario than trading him for a rental.  Edmundo Sosa produced 1.2 WAR in 22.  Is he really an example of the type of player that would elevate the twins into contention? 

    Kepler is highly unlikely to bring back an established player.  Any team looking for someone like Kepler to help short-term is not looking to give up established players in return. At least not an established player of any value.

    The Phillies had different needs, and they did a good job fulfilling them. Kepler won't bring back much, maybe an A-ball pitcher with some upside; the days of him having significant trade value are long gone. May as well keep him and let him give you 1.5-2 WAR down the stretch with good clubhouse feels.

    3 hours ago, RpR said:

    People just do not like/ hate Max Kepler it is simple as  that, they do not need a reason.

    It has nothing to do with like or hate. His defense, his strongest suit has only been avg. Until the past week or so. I already mentioned how every ball hit to the gap he shys away from. He let's Taylor run everything down. He finally ran one down on Tues vs Royals.  And same for his wall play. He made an outstanding play to possibly save the game with a sliding catch on the line. He had a similar play vs the red Sox that he completely gave up on. Which cost them that game earlier this year. So he can make the plays but he doesn't give 100% on every play. And where he could really make a difference is by helping out in CF but he has said he'd rather not. Really. That's the guy you want? Someone who plays on their terms. How many triples has he misplayed off the overhang in his home park? And offensively he's been non existent at times and has been chastised by Rocco for lack of hustle. So it's not a like or hate thing. It's an effort thing. But you watch the same games I do and you consider his play flawless. I don't. 

    8 hours ago, sorney said:

    Watching him stare at a ball over his head yesterday, that ended up hitting the base of the wall in RCF, and not even move....I've had enough of him.  I get it might not have been able to be caught, but he literally just watched it.  Then, a couple batters later, he makes his diving catch on the low liner.  I've just seen enough, and am ready for a change.  

    100% accurate

    8 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

    The schedule in the first half wasn't playing a bunch of ALC teams, so I'm not sure I understand that second to last paragraph. I agree they aren't great, but that has nothing to do with the division. 

    Nearly a quarter of this team's Ws have come against KC. That's not an advantage? The Twins have a losing record in 20 games against all other division opponents. That isn't a massive opportunity (advantage) squandered when you consider how middling to bad those other three teams are?

    9 hours ago, Hans Birkeland said:

    The Phillies had different needs, and they did a good job fulfilling them. Kepler won't bring back much, maybe an A-ball pitcher with some upside; the days of him having significant trade value are long gone. May as well keep him and let him give you 1.5-2 WAR down the stretch with good clubhouse feels.

    We just disagree.  For starters, Max has had many of these little hot streaks and with the exception of 2019 has never maintained a high level of play so the benefit of keeping Kepler is far from assured.  He is just as likely to regress to the same inept hitter he has been for the past 3+ years. 

    More importantly, this club is not a serious contender and there is an opportunity cost in keeping Kepler.  One in the form of whatever he brings back and another in taking up a roster space that should be used to develop our players of the future.   It's very easy to maximize the present.  It's much harder and takes a more disciplined approach to build a true contender.  Would Tampa keep Kepler.  Now way!

    3 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

    We just disagree.  For starters, Max has had many of these little hot streaks and with the exception of 2019 has never maintained a high level of play so the benefit of keeping Kepler is far from assured.  He is just as likely to regress to the same inept hitter he has been for the past 3+ years. 

    More importantly, this club is not a serious contender and there is an opportunity cost in keeping Kepler.  One in the form of whatever he brings back and another in taking up a roster space that should be used to develop our players of the future.   It's very easy to maximize the present.  It's much harder and takes a more disciplined approach to build a true contender.  Would Tampa keep Kepler.  Now way!

    Tampa would 100% keep Kepler, never let him face a lefty and see him post his best OPS in years while subbing in for defense late in games he doesn't start. Then they would flip him while his value is high.

    24 minutes ago, Hans Birkeland said:

    Tampa would 100% keep Kepler, never let him face a lefty and see him post his best OPS in years while subbing in for defense late in games he doesn't start. Then they would flip him while his value is high.

    Tampa would have traded high on Kepler after 2019. And to their credit, they probably would have been able to tell what would happen to him offensively after the league deadened the ball.

    10 hours ago, KirbyDome89 said:

    Nearly a quarter of this team's Ws have come against KC. That's not an advantage? The Twins have a losing record in 20 games against all other division opponents. That isn't a massive opportunity (advantage) squandered when you consider how middling to bad those other three teams are?

    That's a random function....they are also above .500 against good teams other than ATL and BAL....

    9 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

    Tampa would have traded high on Kepler after 2019. And to their credit, they probably would have been able to tell what would happen to him offensively after the league deadened the ball.

    Truth, and it isn't close. 

    3 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

    That's a random function....they are also above .500 against good teams other than ATL and BAL....

    Or they've beaten up an awful team and played meh to poor baseball outside of those series...

    You mean TB right? LA? The Twins are 22-27 against teams over .500. Their record against sub .500 teams other than KC isn't good either. 

    6 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

    As it turns out, it's important to choose the correct part of speech in order to convey the intended message. Wild.

    I said "Every year the Twins are decent, the knock against them is starting pitching." That's a comma, not a semicolon.

    On 7/5/2023 at 11:43 AM, Fire Dan Gladden said:

    I saw the title of this article and laughed and laughed expecting the comments to be beyond vitriolic.  I am pleasantly surprised to be wrong.  Please keep up the civility...

    In a perfect world, Max Kepler is your 4th OF.  The Twins (or Kepler's) unwillingness to play him in CF hamstrings everyone going forward. 

    The article does a great job of addressing the "problems" with Kepler.  Realistic expectations need to be had here.  There is no definitive better option in the minors.  I also think clubhouse impact plays a role here.  Everyone needs to do a cost-benefit check, realize the OF positions in the Twins system are not deep or strong, and any demonstrative improvement will cost resources.  Unless they make a move or two before the deadline, expect to see Max patrolling RF again next year. 

    I think you're right - Kepler will be the RF next year if he even hits a little less than his career average of .231/.315/.427 this year and has 20 or so HRs. Larnach has been at best inconsistent at the MLB level and Wallner has all of  76 MLB ABs, only 19 this year. I cna't see them dumping Kepler and Gallo, and it's hard for me to see the Twins re-signing Gallo unless thing tick up a whole bunch from where they are now.  

    It's looking more and more like the "mistake" that blocks giving Wallner his shot was picking up Joey Gallo.  Hopefully we kind find a home for him by the trade deadline in return for an average reliever or maybe A Ball lottery ticket or two so Wallner can get a shot. I can't see the Twins opening up both RF and LF this year or next when the only thing between them and more Garlick is an inconsistent Larnach and an untested Wallner. Let's open one spot and at least get the "untested" issue solved. 

    2 hours ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

     

    It's looking more and more like the "mistake" that blocks giving Wallner his shot was picking up Joey Gallo.

    Nothing is blocking Wallner except lack of talent.

    What keeps Wallner in the minors is the fact that Kepler , in the minors, in 8 years had 4 errors in Right Field; Wallner , in the minors, in 4 years , had 26 errors in Right Field.

    36 minutes ago, RpR said:

    Nothing is blocking Wallner except lack of talent.

    What keeps Wallner in the minors is the fact that Kepler , in the minors, in 8 years had 4 errors in Right Field; Wallner , in the minors, in 4 years , had 26 errors in Right Field.

    Which is why I think Kepler is the twins RF in 2024. Gallo goes and Walner and Larnach fight it out for LF. 




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