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    Take Heart, Frustrated Twins Fans, “Robo Umps” are Likely Coming Soon


    Melissa Berman

    Twins fans who stayed up late to watch Monday night’s series opener vs. the LA Dodgers were treated to a back-and-forth, thrilling extra-innings game. However, Twins fans went to bed frustrated and feeling like they were cheated out of a win, and the umpiring crew’s calls are what were the talk of the league on Tuesday.

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    As you’ve no doubt heard by now, in the 10th inning, with bases loaded, Alex Kirilloff was up to bat when home umpire Phil Cuzzi called two balls well outside the strike zone as strikes. Kirilloff ended up striking out. The calls were so egregious that even the Dodgers announcers, the beneficiaries of the bad calls, spoke out.

    Adding to the frustration was a questionable David Peralta RBI double down the first-base line that the Twins were not allowed to challenge. Further analysis shows that it was almost certainly a foul ball. 

    After the game, the Twitter account Umpire Scorecards published its grade for Cuzzi, whose umpiring resulted in a jaw-dropping 1.39 run advantage for the Dodgers. Typical figures for this stat are in the decimals; hardly ever full runs. 

    After the game, a chorus of frustrated Twins fans expressed dismay at the decidedly unfair outcome of the game. Regarding the Peralta double, manager Rocco Baldelli said, "We had other opportunities to separate and find ways to win the game on top of the things that we were able to do, but late in the game, when you’re just given a double on a ball that’s foul, I mean, that bothers you, yes." 

    I thought Twins fan Shayla put the helpless frustration of the whole situation perfectly:

    Other fans had one message in mind: bring on the robot umps now. And pretty soon, this will likely be a reality, and hopefully fans like Shayla won't have to feel that poignant frustration.  

    Twins Daily has extensively covered robot umps, most recently in a piece this past January highlighting that MLB will use two forms of the automatic strike zone (ABS), the challenge system and the fully automatic system, at all AAA ballparks in 2023.

    Star Tribune columnist LaVelle E. Neal III did a piece last week on using the automatic strike zone at St. Paul Saints games. Several days earlier, Twins Daily had an article on the ABS system and how it would be used. 

    Triple-A plays six-game series, and MLB is testing out both types of ABS during each series. “For the first three games of a six-game series, the ABS calls balls and strikes. For the next three games, the umpire calls the game, with each team given three challenges. Managers aren’t allowed to challenge pitches, but the catcher, pitcher, or hitter can ask for one. The ABS is then used as the final arbiter,” Neal wrote. He noted that the first challenge in CHS field history occurred on May 5 (here is the Twins Daily Minor League Report which includes this example), where Nashville’s Andruw Monasterio challenged a low pitch by Simeon Woods Richardson by tapping his helmet, and the pitch was ruled a strike by the ABS, much to the crowd and team’s raucous delight. 

    Despite MLB making no decisions on the use of ABS in the majors, it’s difficult to imagine that it won’t happen sometime soon: Triple-A is the last frontier for testing rule changes, and it seems in recent years that everything that makes it to Triple-A ends up in the majors too: this year it was the larger bases, pitch clock, and the shift ban. Furthermore, according to Neal’s piece, the pitch clock is popular among Saints players and coaches. “You get less complaining in the dugout because there is less to argue about. You watch the games on TV, and you want the umpires to be right. When a pitch is borderline, it’s a really hard job as an umpire back there to get everything right,” Gardenhire said. 

    Whether or not MLB implements the challenge system or the full ABS would also need to be decided before hitting the majors. My take: the challenge system is the perfect happy medium. I am ok with there being some variation in umpire strike zones. Still, Monday’s game perfectly illustrates the pressing need to have a way of eliminating the most egregious, game-changing calls. A challenge system would have reversed both of Kirilloff’s calls, which the Twins absolutely would have challenged, assuming they still have challenges to use. Hopefully, the Twins would have scored in that one-out, bases-loaded situation with a sacrifice fly to the outfield. Now that the unjustified strikeout made it two outs, it was a completely different, game-defining situation. 

    The ABS would not have saved the day regarding the Peralta double/foul ball. Hopefully this game sparks some discussion of increasing the number of situations in which a team can challenge a play. The Dodgers broadcast explained that teams can't challenge balls in front of the base umpire, and Peralta’s ball first hit the ground in front of home plate. 

    To those who stayed up late on Monday night, it’s hard to argue that something doesn’t need to be done to eliminate bad calls: the stakes are simply too high, especially in game-changing situations, the postseason, and the rise of sports gambling. But disappointed Twins fans can take heart: hopefully, these egregious missed calls will likely soon be a thing of the past.

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    Did you stay up late on Monday night to watch this extra-inning battle? How did you feel coming away from the game? Do you think ABS would solve a lot of frustration? If so, which of the two kinds of ABS do you prefer? Have you noticed it in use at a Saints game? Leave a COMMENT below.  

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    I'm ready for adding something in to address the errors. electronic strike zone, a challenge system...let's just get it right. Clearly there are ways to do it without it slowing the game back down and the technology is there. It's not going to cost any umpiring jobs, so there's no real reason to object.

    Challenge system is probably fine: as Morneau was saying on the broadcast, we're really only looking at about 10-15 misses in a game, and most of those aren't going to be particularly egregious or in a situation that's very impactful. (smart) teams are going to hold their challenges for when it matters, i think. But it fixes something like Cuzzi's bad day.

    (Cuzzi's misses on Kirilloff were pretty bad just in absolute terms. but to get him on both sides of the plate in the same AB is pretty much inexcusable)

    I don't understand why the "fair" ball double was not reviewable. That seems like it should be.

    As far as ball and strikes, here is what I would propose. Umpire behind the plate calls balls and strikes. A pitcher, catcher, or batter can challenge a ball/strike call before the next pitch is thrown. Each team gets two such challenges a game. If the player challenging wins the challenge (the call is overturned), the team gets to keep the challenge. If the player challenging loses the challenge (the call is upheld), the team has one less challenge. If the umpire behind the plate has five successful challenges against him/her in a game (calls that are overturned on challenge), they must be replaced by another umpire on the crew. 

    5 minutes ago, jmlease1 said:

    I'm ready for adding something in to address the errors. electronic strike zone, a challenge system...let's just get it right. Clearly there are ways to do it without it slowing the game back down and the technology is there. It's not going to cost any umpiring jobs, so there's no real reason to object.

    Challenge system is probably fine: as Morneau was saying on the broadcast, we're really only looking at about 10-15 misses in a game, and most of those aren't going to be particularly egregious or in a situation that's very impactful. (smart) teams are going to hold their challenges for when it matters, i think. But it fixes something like Cuzzi's bad day.

    (Cuzzi's misses on Kirilloff were pretty bad just in absolute terms. but to get him on both sides of the plate in the same AB is pretty much inexcusable)

    I agree, a lot of umpires do a pretty good job (I follow the Umpire Scorecards Twitter account pretty closely) so I don't think going fully automatic is necessary. The challenge system seems like the perfect middle ground, and those are really good points from Morneau. Thanks for reading + taking the time to comment!

    5 minutes ago, minman1982 said:

    I don't understand why the "fair" ball double was not reviewable. That seems like it should be.

    As far as ball and strikes, here is what I would propose. Umpire behind the plate calls balls and strikes. A pitcher, catcher, or batter can challenge a ball/strike call before the next pitch is thrown. Each team gets two such challenges a game. If the player challenging wins the challenge (the call is overturned), the team gets to keep the challenge. If the player challenging loses the challenge (the call is upheld), the team has one less challenge. If the umpire behind the plate has five successful challenges against him/her in a game (calls that are overturned on challenge), they must be replaced by another umpire on the crew. 

    Admittedly, I still don't fully understand why the foul/ fair ball wasn't reviewable. I haven't heard a super good explanation yet

    I think your proposal is really good- I haven't heard of anything proposed elsewhere that serves as a "checks and balances" on umpires. 

    Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment!

    The bad calls mostly even out over time. A robot strike zone won't actually affect more than a game or two in the standings. That matters, especially for a playoff series, but the Twins aren't going to see any net benefit.

    Robo umpires, I'm all for them. But Phil Cuzzi has been a terrible umpire for a long time (remember his blown foul ball call that cost Joe Mauer a double in a playoff game against the Yankees in 2009). What I don't understand is how Cuzzi still has a job. Major league umpires are evaluated, aren't they? If Phil Cuzzi was gone, that would be a major improvement right there, with or without robo umpires.

    I had finally just calmed down before reading this. ha ha. This is really well written, and it fires me up all over again. With the Umpires getting ready for their own contract coming up, I'm nervous that the robo umps are coming. Nervous because I love the human element of the game and I don't want to lose that - but honest to GOD something has to be done, because there is just no excuse for some of the calls that are being made. I am one of those that feels like they are screwing up on purpose which is completely unfair to the teams who work so hard. 

    I have been against pretty much all replay. I believed that salary increases and a grading system that held umpires to a high standard in order to keep their jobs was a better path. The players lose their jobs. Every single day an MLB player is demoted, dfa, or released. The umpires seem to have absolute job security. Now I think the quality of MLB umpires is far superior to basketball or hockey. I don't follow football so out of the loop there. Still an evaluation system should have the teeth to comb through those who do not meet a standard. That is what I thought.

    Now, let's see a challenge system on any play. Two per game with three challenges on balls and strikes. The challenge must be made with five seconds or immediately on balls and strikes. The umpires will not give up total security so a challenge system needs to be implemented that can include any call.

    After watching the circus in Toronto the past three days, I am convinced that robo-umps will still not prevent the Yankees from whinging over balls and strikes (and every nearly every other call). It's easy to envision Aaron Boone standing in front of one of the electronic eyes, banging his fist into his palm and screaming, "tighten it up!"

    9 hours ago, Melissa Berman said:

    I agree, a lot of umpires do a pretty good job (I follow the Umpire Scorecards Twitter account pretty closely) so I don't think going fully automatic is necessary. The challenge system seems like the perfect middle ground, and those are really good points from Morneau. Thanks for reading + taking the time to comment!

    They do an incredible job overall but also agreed as part of the last contract that they would work with MLB on the ABS system so nobody is making bad calls because of it. We are just hearing about it but it’s been on their minds for years. 

    The challenge system is a non-starter for me. If the ABS is good enough just go with it. It can be done with most fans not even realizing something changed. The call of the ump on balls and strikes has never been an item that could be questioned so if we are going with tech don’t change that fundamental. I spent way to much time in the other thread explaining how none of the people eligible to challenge can actually see what they are challenging. The challenged calls at CHS all proved the ump right. It would be a mess. I’d almost want to be the first to get thrown out for arguing against ABS. 

    As an aside, I’m also pretty much done with phases like “without repercussions” “never anything done” etc in this conversation. Like any of us knows a damn thing  about what happens behind the scenes. If anyone has a copy of the contract I haven’t seen it. We don’t know details of if they are fined, pay docked, bad assignments, sent to the minors etc. I get that everyone remembers Cuzzi from way back but stop pretending we know things that aren’t in evidence. 

    I would also argue that we shouldn’t know about umpire discipline except in the most egregious cases. Neither Cuzzi incident would qualify for me. 

    I believe MLB will bring in the challenge system next year, or year after.  They will use it for a few years before going full robo umps.  The league will want to ease in the use of the robo ump, but as they get used to it, the league will get full robo.  I see no reason why not to do it if you have faith in the tech.  

    The scorecard for umps has a huge flaw to it as well, as they give the 50/50 calls basically right either way it is call, only the balls well outside or inside the zone being wrong the wrong call.  I get the job is hard, but on boarder line calls it is basically a coin flip, and the up is always considered right when the ball is thrown there.  To make things worse, that is generally where the pitcher is trying to throw, the edge of the zone.  So if they hit their spots the ump will always have the right call in the score card, even if it is technically the wrong call according to an ABS system. 

    8 hours ago, Trov said:

    I believe MLB will bring in the challenge system next year, or year after.  They will use it for a few years before going full robo umps.  The league will want to ease in the use of the robo ump, but as they get used to it, the league will get full robo.  I see no reason why not to do it if you have faith in the tech.  

    The scorecard for umps has a huge flaw to it as well, as they give the 50/50 calls basically right either way it is call, only the balls well outside or inside the zone being wrong the wrong call.  I get the job is hard, but on boarder line calls it is basically a coin flip, and the up is always considered right when the ball is thrown there.  To make things worse, that is generally where the pitcher is trying to throw, the edge of the zone.  So if they hit their spots the ump will always have the right call in the score card, even if it is technically the wrong call according to an ABS system. 

    I definitely agree, and regarding the scorecards for the really good umps, usually those "misses" usually could go either way. Right on the bubble, and you're right, hitting the edge of the zone is exactly what pitchers are trying to do

    1 hour ago, Winston Smith said:

    I was dead set against it for a long time but the umpires have become so bad that I have switched to for it.

    I do enjoy the human element of things, but I think the challenge system might be a nice addition to eliminate the worst calls 

    21 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

    I have been against pretty much all replay. I believed that salary increases and a grading system that held umpires to a high standard in order to keep their jobs was a better path. The players lose their jobs. Every single day an MLB player is demoted, dfa, or released. The umpires seem to have absolute job security. Now I think the quality of MLB umpires is far superior to basketball or hockey. I don't follow football so out of the loop there. Still an evaluation system should have the teeth to comb through those who do not meet a standard. That is what I thought.

    Now, let's see a challenge system on any play. Two per game with three challenges on balls and strikes. The challenge must be made with five seconds or immediately on balls and strikes. The umpires will not give up total security so a challenge system needs to be implemented that can include any call.

    Those are super good thoughts, and I agree that it doesn't seem like there is much oversight over umpires, even though players' careers etc are impacted because of the umpire's calls.

    21 hours ago, VivaBomboRivera! said:

    After watching the circus in Toronto the past three days, I am convinced that robo-umps will still not prevent the Yankees from whinging over balls and strikes (and every nearly every other call). It's easy to envision Aaron Boone standing in front of one of the electronic eyes, banging his fist into his palm and screaming, "tighten it up!"

    So true. I've been to a couple Saints games this year, and I have to admit that I didn't even notice that ABS was being used in one of the two capacities, but it seems like those guys have been happy with it at least. Bets are off with the Yankees though, lol

    22 hours ago, Sherry Cerny said:

    I had finally just calmed down before reading this. ha ha. This is really well written, and it fires me up all over again. With the Umpires getting ready for their own contract coming up, I'm nervous that the robo umps are coming. Nervous because I love the human element of the game and I don't want to lose that - but honest to GOD something has to be done, because there is just no excuse for some of the calls that are being made. I am one of those that feels like they are screwing up on purpose which is completely unfair to the teams who work so hard. 

    Super good thoughts, appreciate you reading :) I definitely agree that I like the unique human element of the game and I am ok with there being some variation in the strike zone, but I agree with you that something needs to be done to eliminate the worst calls. I really hope they just do the challenge system; a lot of the umpires really are quite good at their jobs and it would bum me out they there wouldn't be umpires perfecting their craft to call balls/strikes at the highest level anymore 

    23 hours ago, DJL44 said:

    The bad calls mostly even out over time. A robot strike zone won't actually affect more than a game or two in the standings. That matters, especially for a playoff series, but the Twins aren't going to see any net benefit.

    That's true, though I suppose the issue is magnified in games like Monday's, when that would've potentially led to a win which, with Tuesday, would've led to a series win rather than a series loss 



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