birddog Verified Member Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 I agree with Yoshii. There is just way too much mediocrity with our projected lineup to get excited for the early part of the season. I like our SP much better than last year, but it is so very tough to get excited about our hitters. Every spring I am one of the most optimistic fans when it comes to our Twins, but unless our April lineup looks more like the September predictions, it is tough to expect anything more than 70 wins. Seth, I would love to see your "wish" lineup to go with your "projected" lineup.
cmathewson Provisional Member Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Seth, Q: Did you talk to anybody on the Twins staff to come up with this projection, or is it just reading the tea leaves?
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Is that the official line? If so that makes it an over for me. I expected 67 or 68....which would've made it very difficult. I see 71.5. I would guess over by a win or two, but too close to put anything on it. Tigers 89.5, Indians 80, KC 79.5, CWS 77, Twins 71.5. http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/mlb/2014-02-16/mlb-season-win-total-division-odds-dodgers-yankees-angels-pirates-phillies
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 Seth, Q: Did you talk to anybody on the Twins staff to come up with this projection, or is it just reading the tea leaves? Tea Leaf reading...
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 I see 71.5. I would guess over by a win or two, but too close to put anything on it. Tigers 89.5, Indians 80, KC 79.5, CWS 77, Twins 71.5. http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/mlb/2014-02-16/mlb-season-win-total-division-odds-dodgers-yankees-angels-pirates-phillies Life savings on the under. No way this group, with this offense, has a 10 win improvement. (Wildcards like Sano/Buxton/etc. subject to change that of course.)
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Life savings on the under. No way this group, with this offense, has a 10 win improvement. (Wildcards like Sano/Buxton/etc. subject to change that of course.) But of course you don't get to pull your bet back if Sano, Buxton and Meyer end up getting earlier than expected promotions. I'd keep your life savings just where it is to be safe.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 But of course you don't get to pull your bet back if Sano, Buxton and Meyer end up getting earlier than expected promotions. I'd keep your life savings just where it is to be safe. Even with them I think the odds are strong for the under. I think the Twins will be rightly cautious about calling those kids up to what could be an awful ballclub by June 1st. My guess is many of those debuts happen closer to Aug 1 than June 1. And even if they're earlier, a 10 win improvement over their pyth is a lot to ask for.
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Even with them I think the odds are strong for the under. I think the Twins will be rightly cautious about calling those kids up to what could be an awful ballclub by June 1st. My guess is many of those debuts happen closer to Aug 1 than June 1. And even if they're earlier, a 10 win improvement over their pyth is a lot to ask for. The Twins will have every incentive to bring Sano and Meyer up right after June 1. We want to keep their service back (Twins way) and the marketing machine will want a boost after watching this team for the first 60 games. Until then, Meyer will need to work on (insert control or presence, or change up) and Sano will need to work on (insert defense or K's).
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 The Twins will have every incentive to bring Sano and Meyer up right after June 1. We want to keep their service back (Twins way) and the marketing machine will want a boost after watching this team for the first 60 games. Until then, Meyer will need to work on (insert control or presence, or change up) and Sano will need to work on (insert defense or K's). Well, not every incentive. It depends on their readiness I would hope too. Sano had an adjutment period in AA, he may have another in AAA, and yet another in the majors. It's a bit presumptive of people to expect these guys are not only all-stars but they hit the road as all-stars. Even great players often take some time to get their feet wet. The idea that come June 1st we add these guys and suddenly take off is completely ignoring typical prospect development.
KirbyHawk75 Verified Member Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 I would expect, like most here, that Hicks, Pinto, Meyer, Sano, and Buxton will all start in the Minors. Boring, yes, but good for the team in the long run....Hopefully, all or almost all of them, will see the majors this year.
TC Stunner Provisional Member Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 I would expect, like most here, that Hicks, Pinto, Meyer, Sano, and Buxton will all start in the Minors. Boring, yes, but good for the team in the long run....Hopefully, all or almost all of them, will see the majors this year. Well if the Twins hope to have any excitement for the start of the season and hope to sell tickets, they better bring a few of those guys north with them. I think Hicks and Pinto are the most likely candidates to start out on the major league roster. Buxton, Sano, Meyer etc, have pretty much no shot at making the major league roster, no matter how they perform in spring training. The Twins are not gonna want to lose arbitration years on those guys. But Hicks and Pinto better start the season on the big club, or the Twins are going to have a tough time getting people excited for the season. Nobody I know is excited to see Pressley, Collabello etc.
orangevening Provisional Member Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Not (hopefully) a important position battle, but who is backing Mauer at 1st? Parmalee, Calobello? or babe Plouffe?
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