zenser Verified Member Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 From my understanding, the 10 smallest market teams and the 10 lowest revenue teams are eligible. Does anyone know where the Twins rank in those? I was kind of shocked to see Baltimore and St. Louis in the pool. Competitive Balance Lottery pays out 12 Draft picks | MLB.com: News
zenser Verified Member Posted July 17, 2013 Author Posted July 17, 2013 I guess they didn't miss out if they weren't eligible.
buckninetyone Provisional Member Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 [h=2]Twins miss out on competitive balance picks[/h]*slams fist on table* i have no idea what that means!!!!
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 Twins miss out on competitive balance picks *slams fist on table* i have no idea what that means!!!! Haha. The 10 teams with the smallest revenues and the 10 teams with the smallest markets get entered into a lottery to get extra draft picks. There were 14 teams eligible for these picks, there is obviously some overlap with the 10 smallest revenues/markets, but the Twins were not one of them. The picks are either competitive balance round A (right after round 1) or competitive balance round B (right after round two). They give out 6 picks for each with two teams not getting picks. These picks can be traded. While the Twins didn't get a pick, once again they weren't eligible, the Royals and Indians each received a round A pick. Last year the Royals were able to use their competition balance round pick on Manaea after going under slot on their first round pick. For more information/results of this years competitive balance lottery follow these links:2014 Competitive Balance Lottery Results: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com Competitive Balance Lottery pays out 12 Draft picks | MLB.com: News
Old Twins Cap Verified Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 In other words, the Twins are judged to be a mid-size market, have above average attendance, and ownership is walking away with a lot of profit. It's only the team that isn't doing well. Add that up and it's kind of damning.
buckninetyone Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 Haha. The 10 teams with the smallest revenues and the 10 teams with the smallest markets get entered into a lottery to get extra draft picks. There were 14 teams eligible for these picks, there is obviously some overlap with the 10 smallest revenues/markets, but the Twins were not one of them. The picks are either competitive balance round A (right after round 1) or competitive balance round B (right after round two). They give out 6 picks for each with two teams not getting picks. These picks can be traded. While the Twins didn't get a pick, once again they weren't eligible, the Royals and Indians each received a round A pick. Last year the Royals were able to use their competition balance round pick on Manaea after going under slot on their first round pick. For more information/results of this years competitive balance lottery follow these links:2014 Competitive Balance Lottery Results: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com Competitive Balance Lottery pays out 12 Draft picks | MLB.com: News i dont care explain all you want i will punch you
buckninetyone Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 i dont care explain all you want i will punch you just got done punching my cat does someone have some ice
gil4 Verified Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 i dont care explain all you want i will punch you That will probably hurt your computer monitor, possibly hurt your hand, and leave him unscathed. So punch away and let us know how it comes out.
gil4 Verified Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 just got done punching my cat does someone have some ice For your hand or the cat?
buckninetyone Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 For your hand or the cat? the cat.
buckninetyone Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 the cat. no! Me! I meant me! No animal cruelty!
buckninetyone Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 maybe a little bit of animal cruelty.
amjgt Verified Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 7 of the 12 have higher payrolls than the Twins. Thanks Pohlads.
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 How on earth do the Cardinals end up qualifying for that?
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 How on earth do the Cardinals end up qualifying for that? Because it has nothing to do with record from last season.
rnw24 Provisional Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 no! Me! I meant me! No animal cruelty! cats are the worst, most would probably look the other way
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 How on earth do the Cardinals end up qualifying for that? St. Louis is actually one of the smallest markets. No one has mentioned that Detroit was also in the lottery. They have one of the smallest revenues. No teams are forced to open their books, but of course as the name implies, the Competitive Draft Lottery indicates the Twins are in a stronger financial situation than both the Cardinals and the Tigers.
James Verified Member Posted July 18, 2013 Posted July 18, 2013 In other words, the Twins are judged to be a mid-size market, have above average attendance, and ownership is walking away with a lot of profit. It's only the team that isn't doing well. Add that up and it's kind of damning.Revenue is not the same as profit. We don't know what they're operating costs are, so you don't know their profits compared to revenue. I'm not a saying the Pohlads aren't making money. They most certainly are. But let's not assume that they are making more profit than some other teams, because we just don't know. As far as revenues for the competitive balance lottery go, I'm sure these we're calculated off of 2012 revenues. The difference between the Twins (#17 in revenue) and Rockies (#22 in revenue) was all of $15 M. There is a chance for the lowest revenue clubs to change a lot for next year's picks. I got revenues from here:MLB Team Values: The Business Of Baseball - Full List - Forbes Before we get into this discussion again, know that the revenues are estimated and operating capital is not the same as profit.
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