Brooks Lee for an ACE???

[cmoss84]

Now that Brooks has gotten his feet wet and Twins fans all riled up, I have to ask:

Would you trade Lee for an ace? We'll call an ace a #1 on a medium or worse team OR a #2 on a slightly above medium or better team, with room for discussion in between. Here is a short list of somewhat realistic options I would include in a Brooks Lee package:

ChiCubs: Steele, Justin ($4 this year, under control for at least 3 more, and is 28 years old).

ChiWhiteSox: Crochet, Garrett ($800K this year, under control for at least 2 more, and is 25...oh yeah...and there is that divisional thing...).

Cincy: Hunter Greene ($3.3 this year, under control for at least 4 more, averaging about $11/yr...24 years old). 

Bienviendo a Miami: Jesus Luzardo ($5,5 this year, under control for at least 2 more, 26 years old...yes, I do consider him an ace). 

Pitt: Mitch Keller (he might be more of a #2...but also won't demand as much. Under control until 2028, at age 32. $17/year).

Seattle: Will the Mariners pay all 3??? Miller, along with a few other young prospects, might make for some interesting decision making. 

              Castillo (this year, under control through 2028 w/vesting option at $24.5/year...a robust 32.)

              Kirby (at age 26, Kirby is raking in $800K this year, with at least 4 more years of control).

              Gilbert ($4 this year with 3 more years of control...27 years of age).

TB Rays: Zach Eflin (Again, Eflin is more of a #2, but potentially much cheaper than others on this list. $11 this year and $18 next, when he will be 31).

Texas: Nathan Eovaldi (the geezer of the bunch...basically $18.5 this year and next 2 years each...vesting deal at age 35...A LOT of post season seasoning and success). 

TOR: Kevin Gausman ($24 this year and $23 the next 2 years...he is 33 with mixed post season success). 

*Other Twins potential pieces: Kirilloff, Larnach, Kepler, Festa, Keuschall, Severino, Kiersey, Julien, Raya, Gabby Gonzo, C. Lewis, Culpepper, Schobel

 

[Cory Engelhardt]

19 minutes ago, cmoss84 said:

Now that Brooks has gotten his feet wet and Twins fans all riled up, I have to ask:

Would you trade Lee for an ace? We'll call an ace a #1 on a medium or worse team OR a #2 on a slightly above medium or better team, with room for discussion in between. Here is a short list of somewhat realistic options I would include in a Brooks Lee package:

ChiCubs: Steele, Justin ($4 this year, under control for at least 3 more, and is 28 years old). Maybe? Probably not. I don't see him being available.

ChiWhiteSox: Crochet, Garrett ($800K this year, under control for at least 2 more, and is 25...oh yeah...and there is that divisional thing...).

Cincy: Hunter Greene ($3.3 this year, under control for at least 4 more, averaging about $11/yr...24 years old). 

Bienviendo a Miami: Jesus Luzardo ($5,5 this year, under control for at least 2 more, 26 years old...yes, I do consider him an ace). 

Pitt: Mitch Keller (he might be more of a #2...but also won't demand as much. Under control until 2028, at age 32. $17/year).

Seattle: Will the Mariners pay all 3??? Miller, along with a few other young prospects, might make for some interesting decision making. 

              Castillo (this year, under control through 2028 w/vesting option at $24.5/year...a robust 32.)

              Kirby (at age 26, Kirby is raking in $800K this year, with at least 4 more years of control).

              Gilbert ($4 this year with 3 more years of control...27 years of age).

TB Rays: Zach Eflin (Again, Eflin is more of a #2, but potentially much cheaper than others on this list. $11 this year and $18 next, when he will be 31).

Texas: Nathan Eovaldi (the geezer of the bunch...basically $18.5 this year and next 2 years each...vesting deal at age 35...A LOT of post season seasoning and success). 

TOR: Kevin Gausman ($24 this year and $23 the next 2 years...he is 33 with mixed post season success). 

*Other Twins potential pieces: Kirilloff, Larnach, Kepler, Festa, Keuschall, Severino, Kiersey

 

Steele, yeah maybe.

Crochet, I'm nervous of him long term. I also don't see Chicago trading with us. So no.

Greene, yeah I probably would.

Luzardo, he is hurt and has had a really down year. I'd have a hard time betting on him coming back this year and being helpful. I like him a lot, so if they wanted other prospects I'd consider that, but not at the moment for Lee.

Keller, I love him, but I don't see Pittsburgh listening on him. He just signed an extension.

The Seattle 3, I absolutely would for Kirby or Gilbert. I may even do it for Miller. I wonder what Seattle would want IF they were to trade anyone.

Eflin, I think Lee is worth more than him. I'd be interested in him, but definitely for a package without Lee involved.

Eovaldi, same as Eflin.

Gausman, kind of same as Eflin and Eovaldi, and I'm nervous of his velocity drop. I'd be curious what they would want though, for sure.

Bottom line, I do have a hard time seeing Minnesota trading Lee at this moment. He has shown for now that he belongs in mlb. I think Minnesota has a LOT of other good prospects that they can acquire a good pitcher for, and I expect them to add before the end of July.

[Shaitan]

Too much risk in young pitchers, unless you're talking a generational talent.

[Battle ur tail off]

Pretty sure no team gives up an ACE straight up for Lee. Maybe for the older type guys, but young controllable arms that profile as top of the rotation starters would take more I think. 

Would I? Yep, for some of those guys under 30 I would, even though it might be a mistake...

[cmoss84]

19 hours ago, Battle ur tail off said:

Pretty sure no team gives up an ACE straight up for Lee. Maybe for the older type guys, but young controllable arms that profile as top of the rotation starters would take more I think. 

Would I? Yep, for some of those guys under 30 I would, even though it might be a mistake...

My headline was a little misleading...if you read on, you'll see that I mentioned a "Brooks Lee package," with "potential additional players" at the bottom. 

[mrtwinsfan]

Lee,  no-  Julien  ?

[cmoss84]

7 hours ago, mrtwinsfan said:

Lee,  no-  Julien  ?

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