InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Andrew (Minnesota) How high must Ryan Boldt be drafted to sign and not head to Nebraska?Klaw (2:15 PM)I don't think it's about the pick, but the money. I'm guessing first-round money or close to it gets him signed. That'll be a tough physical, though - he's got more than one medical question to answer.-------------------------------------[h=6]Jim (Rhode Island )[/h] I'm not sold on Stewart as a top ten pick. Aren't scouts worried about his control ?[h=6]Klaw (2:16 PM)[/h] If he had plus control now, he'd go first overall. Almost every prospect has a question mark on him. He's a great athlete with four pitches, two plus, and a workable delivery.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Perfect games released their mock today. Have the Twins taking Stewart. KOHL STEWART - RHP - St. Pius X HS, TexasSimilar to the Rockies and their connection to Kris Bryant, the Twins have been frequently mentioned in having heavy interest in prep righthander Kohl Stewart, who enjoyed a sensational spring season as the best prep pitcher since Dylan Bundy, who went No. 4 overall to the Orioles in 2011. MLB Mock Draft Version 3 | Perfect Game USA
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 I'm no IT guy but my work computer is suddenly throwing up a bunch of red flags on this site. Did Dave's new internet "girlfriend" dump a bunch of viruses in here?
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 [h=6]Jim (Rhode Island )[/h] I'm not sold on Stewart as a top ten pick. Aren't scouts worried about his control ?[h=6]Klaw (2:16 PM)[/h] If he had plus control now, he'd go first overall. Almost every prospect has a question mark on him. He's a great athlete with four pitches, two plus, and a workable delivery.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 I'm no IT guy but my work computer is suddenly throwing up a bunch of red flags on this site. Did Dave's new internet "girlfriend" dump a bunch of viruses in here?Maybe it's a Red Sox fan since they want Stewart so bad.
howieramone1406390264 Verified Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 The scouts ALL see the control problems and have graded him as such. They aren't the ones that have to fix it however and that's crux of the player development/scout conflict. I agree, if his control problems can be fixed he's probably a can't miss prospect but I'm guessing he's been throwing this way since little league. He's not alone. Can you provide us with some type of number to help us prove Butera is still a premier defensive catcher? It can't be opinion, nor must it be a fact. We can throw the game into extra innings with a justified belief. Also, what round do you have Vera going in?
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Not draft but from Law's chat: Do you agree with the Buxton/Trout comparisons that are being talked about after Buxton's huge season so far?[h=6]Klaw (2:20 PM)[/h] No, and I say that as a big Buxton fan who would have taken him first overall last year. Trout was a year younger than Buxton when he dominated that same level, with a higher contact rate. But if Buxton is 95% of Trout that's a pretty freaking good player. Also, BA is holding a draft chat at 3 ct
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 BA just put out their updated top 50. Top 5 still the same with Stewart at #5. Updated 2013 Draft Top 50 - BaseballAmerica.com Here is a link to their complete list of 500 prospects: BaseballAmerica.com: Draft Preview Database
mk Verified Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Question for the HS vs. college pitcher debate. Is it reasonable to assume that a HS pitcher has a good chance to pick up a couple ticks on the FB with growth and a higher level of coaching than a college pitcher who is already 4 years older? Meaning, could Stewart who now maxes at 97, increase to 99 and be on the same level as Appel?
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Question for the HS vs. college pitcher debate. Is it reasonable to assume that a HS pitcher has a good chance to pick up a couple ticks on the FB with growth and a higher level of coaching than a college pitcher who is already 4 years older? Meaning, could Stewart who now maxes at 97, increase to 99 and be on the same level as Appel? Reasonable, yes. It is not a guarantee though.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Question for the HS vs. college pitcher debate. Is it reasonable to assume that a HS pitcher has a good chance to pick up a couple ticks on the FB with growth and a higher level of coaching than a college pitcher who is already 4 years older? Meaning, could Stewart who now maxes at 97, increase to 99 and be on the same level as Appel? While Stewart doesn't have bad mechanics he does have a few things to smooth out. Some experts feel with a chance to work with proper pitching coaches he could easily fix these minor problems which could lead to increased velocity. Nothing is guaranteed but I can definitely see him gaining a tick or two. Law has his present fastball at a 65 grade and projects his fastball to be a 70 grade in the future.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 McDaniels posted his final mock and has, you guessed it, Stewart to the Twins. Scout.com: Mock Draft 4.0: The Final Reckoning Also, McDaniel's final draft board:http://sbb.scout.com/3/2013MLBDRAFTTOPPROSPECTS.html
Red Bull Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Not draft but from Law's chat: Do you agree with the Buxton/Trout comparisons that are being talked about after Buxton's huge season so far?Klaw (2:20 PM) No, and I say that as a big Buxton fan who would have taken him first overall last year. Trout was a year younger than Buxton when he dominated that same level, with a higher contact rate. But if Buxton is 95% of Trout that's a pretty freaking good player. Also, BA is holding a draft chat at 3 ct I find this a dumb statement by Klaw because although Trouts contact rate is a was a little higher than Buxtons is Buxtons power numbers are higher than Trouts were. Buxton has an OPS of 1.023 while Trouts was around .970. Either way there numbers are so similar when they were each on CR.
Red Bull Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 No offense, but Strasburg wasn't even drafted out of high school in all 40 rounds (i don't think). He played under Tony G. But he was technically a high school pitcher at one time. Your right, I dont know why I thought he was a HS pitcher.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 BA's draft chat has started. Get in and ask Twins questions! BaseballAmerica.com: Chat Draft
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 BA released an article on pick value that just shows why you should take BPA at #4. Picks 1-5 have a much higher chance of success. Full article here: Top 100 Draft Flashback: First-Round Pick Values - BaseballAmerica.com
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Harold Reynolds says he would take Stewart #1
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 BA released an article on pick value that just shows why you should take BPA at #4. Picks 1-5 have a much higher chance of success. Full article here: Top 100 Draft Flashback: First-Round Pick Values - BaseballAmerica.com Interesting, so if the Twins can't get the best player available they would be best off if they picked the 7th best player available.
Highabove Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 There will be live streaming coverage on MLB.com.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Holy F. David Rawnsley @DavidRawnsleyPG49sInteresting, well placed source just told me that Astros are down to Stewart or Moran. Kohl would certainly be a surprise.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Harold Reynolds says he would take Stewart #1 BS, he'd take the hot college intern unless she was demanding an over slot bonus.
John Bonnes Site Manager Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 BA released an article on pick value that just shows why you should take BPA at #4. Picks 1-5 have a much higher chance of success. Full article here: Top 100 Draft Flashback: First-Round Pick Values - BaseballAmerica.com This is a hell of a good story/study. It's well worth the click over.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Holy F. David Rawnsley @DavidRawnsleyPG49sInteresting, well placed source just told me that Astros are down to Stewart or Moran. Kohl would certainly be a surprise. That opens to door for a lot of excitement or quite a bit of bitterness. Fingers crossed here that Bryant would be the one slipping.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 ^And I'm the opposite, I'd be praying Appel or Gray slips.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 From BA's chat (Corner Glassey's time) Are the Twins a lock to take Kohl Stewart unless one of the college arms slip? Thanks! Conor Glassey: No, I heard he was losing some favor in Minnesota. It sounds like they're considering a group of players (Ball, Shipley, Reese McGuire) - perhaps as a way to get Stewart to drop his price? We'll see. Lots of gamesmanship happening over the past 24 hours. Is there a concensus on Reese McGuire's hit and power tools or is there a range in the scounting community? Low, moderate or high likelihood of signing a pro contract? Conor Glassey: There is a bit of a mix. Scouts who love him can project on the bat and see an average hitter with at-least average power potential. While other scouts grade him out as below-average to fringy with the bat. But the defense and makeup are special. He is a premium defender who has been calling his own games since he was 10 years old. THAT IS UNHEARD OF in today's power-hungry, micro-managing environment of HS, travel ball & college ball. Reese is considered a great kid and scouts love him and think he's going to be a big leaguer even if the bat doesn't pan out because everything else is so good. I think it's highly likely he signs if he's drafted in the top half of the first round, like we expect.
John Bonnes Site Manager Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 I would personally take this as very good news. Twins would almost have to take a Big 3 guy then. Holy F. David Rawnsley @DavidRawnsleyPG49sInteresting, well placed source just told me that Astros are down to Stewart or Moran. Kohl would certainly be a surprise.
Red Bull Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Holy F. David Rawnsley @DavidRawnsleyPG49sInteresting, well placed source just told me that Astros are down to Stewart or Moran. Kohl would certainly be a surprise. Last night I posted on here somewhere that I wouldnt be suprised if the Twins missed out on Appel, Gray and Stewart. If HOU really wants a pitcher with high upside that is also cheap they could take Stewart, then CHC and COL would each take either Appel or Gray.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Holy F. David Rawnsley @DavidRawnsleyPG49sInteresting, well placed source just told me that Astros are down to Stewart or Moran. Kohl would certainly be a surprise. Stewart? That's shocking seeing they haven't been in on him at all according to several experts. Gray/Appel must be asking for the moon.
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Radcliff was pretty adamant about BPA, so if one of the Big 3 drops, I think we snag them - regardless of Boras or not.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Jim Callis just tweeted: Deja vu. Two hours before #mlbdraft, no concrete idea of whats #astris will do at No. 1. Killing me!
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