Karbo’s 2023 Payroll Blueprint

[Karbo]

Re-sign Gray on a 3 year 70 mil, move Varland to RP

• C: Christian Vazquez ($10.00M)
• 1B: Alex Kirilloff ($1.70M)
• 2B: Jorge Polanco ($10.50M)
• 3B: Royce Lewis ($0.77M)
• SS: Carlos Correa ($33.33M)
• LF: Matt Wallner ($0.77M)
• CF: Byron Buxton ($15.00M)
• RF: Max Kepler ($10.00M)
• DH: Edouard Julien ($0.77M)
• 4th OF: Willi Castro ($3.20M)
• Utility: Trevor Larnach ($0.77M)
• Utility: Kyle Farmer ($6.60M)
• Backup C: Ryan Jeffers ($2.30M)
• SP1: Pablo Lopez ($8.25M)
• SP2: Joe Ryan ($0.77M)
• SP3: Bailey Ober ($0.77M)
• SP4: Chris Paddack ($2.53M)
• SP5: Sonny Gray ($21.00) ($23.5M)
• RP: Jhoan Duran ($0.77M)
• RP: Brock Stewart ($0.77M)
• RP: Griffin Jax ($0.77M)
• RP: Jorge Alcala ($1.00M)
• RP: Caleb Thielbar ($3.00M)
• RP: Cole Sands ($0.77M)
• RP: Jovani Moran ($0.77M)
• RP: Varland ($0.77M)

Payroll is 6.57% under budget

[Fatbat]

@Karbo I don’t think Gray will be back for that kind of $$$. He will likely sign for over $30M/yr on a 2-3 yr deal. The rest looks solid but somehow I see the FO doing some kind of Galloesc tinkering just because they can’t help themselves….. the FO really should target a front line SP but it wont be Gray. The assumption that Gray wont accept the QO. If he does, then signing a second cheaper option like Giollito would make sense. 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Fatbat

[Linus]

I like it except I want no part of a bullpen that has Sands Moran and Alcala. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

I'm really hesitant to just send Varland to the bullpen given the (lack of) depth beyond the fifth starter. I'd keep Varland as the sixth option, which means there's a 50% chance he ends up in the Opening Day rotation anyway.

[JD-TWINS]

3 hours ago, Linus said:

I like it except I want no part of a bullpen that has Sands Moran and Alcala. 

Me either!

How about Winder, Balazovic, & Funderburk?

To me, unless they trade Winder, he’s our obvious long guy in the Pen. Funderburk seems like a can’t miss rostered guy.

Alcala - Balazovic - Moran can battle for last spot.

[JD-TWINS]

28 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I'm really hesitant to just send Varland to the bullpen given the (lack of) depth beyond the fifth starter. I'd keep Varland as the sixth option, which means there's a 50% chance he ends up in the Opening Day rotation anyway.

The issue with Varland is that it seems they told him he would have an opportunity going forward as a starter when they moved him to the Pen in September. Seems that’s how his headline ran for justification of the move.

IMO, he could be a 4.25 ERA guy with a .500 record as a starter. Seems durable & could eat innings. He could be dominant in the Pen! If he & the Twins can get his mind right coming out of the Pen is best for the club.

Varland - Stewart - Jax - Duran………they’d be on the cover of Sporting News by June 1 if they still printed the baseball bible!!

[JD-TWINS]

1 option) Maeda is an inexpensive depth piece for rotation. Maybe trade for another similar guy and live with that solution?

2nd option) Gray at $70M, at 34 years old seems to be more of a sentimental move. I honestly don’t think he’ll hold up physically over 3 years & that’s a lot of $$ to have even 1 bad or unproductive year. That’s $23.3M/year for Gray.

Best option) It seems that we should at least offer $24M/year for 4 years to Jordan Montgomery with a 5th year player option. He’s 30. He’s had a 3.30ERA over essentially 7 MLB seasons. 6’5” 235 pound horse - left handed fits with our other 4 RH starters. Great recent post-season success! If we can afford him at $24-$27M he’s our best buy!!!

 

[JD-TWINS]

Just now, JD-TWINS said:

1 option) Maeda is an inexpensive depth piece for rotation. Maybe trade for another similar guy and live with that solution?

2nd option) Gray at $70M, at 34 years old seems to be more of a sentimental move. I honestly don’t think he’ll hold up physically over 3 years & that’s a lot of $$ to have even 1 bad or unproductive year. That’s $23.3M/year for Gray.

Best option) It seems that we should at least offer $24M/year for 4 years to Jordan Montgomery with a 5th year player option. He’s 30. He’s had a 3.30ERA over essentially 7 MLB seasons. 6’5” 235 pound horse - left handed fits with our other 4 RH starters. Great recent post-season success! If we can afford him at $24-$27M he’s our best buy!!!

 

Texas has Heaney - deGrom - Scherzer - Eovaldi - all under contract, plus a couple more guys……….I think Montgomery leaves & will be in high demand. We may not be to attract him?

[tony&rodney]

Twins return only players within their system for 2024?