The dust is beginning to settle on the draft, lets talk about the pitchers

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

All of the players expected to sign have sign except the last 2 players drafted 19th and 20th.  We are allowed to follow and sign by the 2024 draft Parker,  I doubt we can pull a rabbit out of our hat on Larson like we did with Julien in 2019 but weirder things have happened.  I liked the bats in the draft but to me this draft is all about the pitching and the money paid shows the amount of interest the Twins have in the players and their expectations that they could be a quality arm for the organization.  

Of course Soto will receive the most money and he has the best shot at becoming a #1 pitcher in our organization since Berrios (excluding Petty, but I think Soto has an even higher ceiling). 

Twins gave 500k+ to Hall and Questad.  Obviously to get a high school pitcher had to overpay a bit, but it also shows they have high expectations for both pitchers.  Whether they perform is the questions. 

This is the meat of what I wanted to look at - the Twins picks from 8th round to the 17th round.  They gave effectively all players from the 8th to the 13th $150,000 (other than Dougherty 160k).   Then from the 14th to the 17th 100k. You then throw in Santos which was a senior sign which has typically done ok for the organization although no major wins yet with those type of pics yet for the organization.  What does this mean . . .?  You can tell from the articles and even from some of the posters which we appreciate the information on Pasqualotto from the new poster.  All these pitchers were obviously in a similar tier shown by the money given, but also these pitchers had better quality stats and had pitched in better leagues than what the Twins have typical drafted from in the last couple of years.    You have some pitchers that are already pitching in the mid 90's, they all have an elite secondary pitch, and you have some well rounded pitchers already.  

I would not be surprised at all if there is at least 4 quality MLB arms out of this draft.  The quality and depth is just unheard of.  Being an Iowa guy and following Langenberg,  I know he has very good quality stuff and also seemed to pitch best against higher competition. Then Pasqualotto, Dunn, Dougherty, Stoffal Dunn and Lee, and even Hamilton the players all seem like quality guys and have the potential to really improve with the quality coaches in A and A+ ball.  If you look at the pitchers even the ones who struggled a bit this year, they all had good outings against quality teams this year.  The 2019 draft was a draft I followed due to the depth and quality of the picks.  I felt the 2019 draft had the potential to be a game changer draft, and if the top of the draft had panned out it would have been.  I feel this draft is even better than that draft, and I think anyone would take Jenkins over Cavaco - but there is still risks with #1 high school picks.  We will see in a few years how the results fair.  I am expecting an influx of talent next year to A and A+ ball for pitchers which will be welcomed.  I could go on and on, I have really appreciated the individual articles on each of the players, great job.  Lets go Twins and hopefully we see some of these players doing well in the minors later this year and next year and the Twins making a push to the playoffs. 

[Cornholio]

Have Jenkins and Soto agreed to terms? I haven’t been able to find anything about that.

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

1 hour ago, Cornholio said:

Have Jenkins and Soto agreed to terms? I haven’t been able to find anything about that.

Not yet,  but already agreed to, so just ironing out details likely.   

[Mike Sixel]

Soto has agreed, yes. 

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

Soto has agreed, yes. 

The tracker hasn't been updated to reflect this  . . . Just saw the Callis Twitter from this morning.  Thanks for the update.  

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, IA Bean Counter said:

The tracker hasn't been updated to reflect this  . . . is this recent news like today or the tracker just no longer being updated.  

Saw it on Twitter today

[Twinsoholic]

Where has the Draft Tracker been placed now? It was at the top of the screen when you log on, but I don’t see it there anymore. I scrolled down a bit but still did not see it. 
 

 

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

23 minutes ago, Twinsoholic said:

Where has the Draft Tracker been placed now? It was at the top of the screen when you log on, but I don’t see it there anymore. I scrolled down a bit but still did not see it. 
 

 

I still had mine up from earlier today.   https://twinsdaily.com/minnesota-twins-draft-picks/2023/

[AlwaysinModeration]

2 hours ago, IA Bean Counter said:

I still had mine up from earlier today.   https://twinsdaily.com/minnesota-twins-draft-picks/2023/

If Soto signed at slot, then they have signed 17 players for almost exactly the total slot.  Let’s say Jenkins signs for $6.5, which is about $630K under slot.  They could go $720K over their total cap (5% over), plus offer a base of $150k.

 

$630K + $720K + 150K = $1.5mm.

Would one of the two high schoolers at 19/20 sign for $1.5mm?

 

 

 

[Mike Sixel]

 

[Mike Sixel]

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[ashbury]

1 hour ago, AlwaysinModeration said:

If Soto signed at slot, then they have signed 17 players for almost exactly the total slot.  Let’s say Jenkins signs for $6.5, which is about $630K under slot.  They could go $720K over their total cap (5% over), plus offer a base of $150k.

 

$630K + $720K + 150K = $1.5mm.

Would one of the two high schoolers at 19/20 sign for $1.5mm?

Nice if it works out like that.  I don't claim to understand how a draft pick (and agent) sees things.  If an agreement is reached before the draft on a dollar figure, sure - that's surely how a lot of the mid-round picks did it, for draft certainty on both sides. 

But say it's perceived as an N-player draft with a big dropoff in talent at player number N+1.  Why would any of those top N players agree before the draft to under-slot with team N?  Each player has their sights set on the very highest slots, and will be at least a little disappointed that they are the one that drops to N.  I would think the pre-draft conversation will go, "I'll be glad if your team drafts me and I'll sign for slot, but truly I expect I'll be gone by the time it's your pick."  They won't say, "well, if I drop to number N, I guess I'm not as good as I thought.  I'll take less, and be grateful."  Are they really thinking team N is going to draft player N+1 in this scenario (such as this year, where there wasn't even a consensus on who would be #6.) , just to save money so they can spend it on an even lesser high-school prospect (who isn't good enough apparently for anyone to draft high enough to entice them with what amounts to second-round money in the first place)?