kab21 Verified Member Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 McCarthy should get a 1 yr contract for significantly less than haren. That head injury was awful I wouldn't be surprised if he suffers from it long term. I'm surprised that so many are willing to dismiss that after the issues that Span and Morneau have had. Imo he looked like the kind of guy that was going sign a reasonable 3/30 contract before that injury. He might be young but I really question if he was that good before the injury. Mediocre K rate and the Oakland effect.
YourHouseIsMyHouse Provisional Member Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 2/17 with a 10 million option
rogrulz30 Verified Member Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 This is the 1 guy I would over pay in the market, I understand the injury issues, he is young and has a great upside if he can stay healthy. Biggest chance I take overall and would offer a 3 year deal. I am in the 3/30 options, I don't know if I would want to go that far above market value on some of the other options. Like Terry Ryan said though if you want a free agent you take market value and you give it the little extra, I like 3 guys a lot Villanueva, McCarthy, and obviously Sanchez, I don't go after Sanchez unless we can have some higher expectations making playoff runs.
Top Gun Provisional Member Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 I won't touch him with a 10 foot pole!
RodneyKline Provisional Member Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 All these pitchers are going to get $10 million plus and they are not great pitchers. Sign Grienke! Would you rather have Grienke at $20m or two of these average at best pitchers at $10 million. TR is going to give us another five #3-#5 starters and we won't gey above .500. We need an ace and that is Grienke. It would be a smart business move by Jim Pohlad. Spending $100 million for a team under .500 next year will get attendance to keep dropping every year. Spend an extra #20 million and get Grienke and Twins Nation jumps back on the bandwaggin to stay for the rest of the decade. Jim Pohlad will not say no to a smart business investment. The $120m payroll option is a much higher return gamble in my opinion. Grienke is considering KC according to rumors. He will definitely consider MN. He seems like the type that would not like the NY, Boston or LA lifestyle. Get aggressive TR! We told you that we needed an ace in 2011 and 2012 and you ignored us and signed a bunch of projects. That didn't work. What to do in 2013? Ignore the need for an ace to anchor the rotation or ??? The definition of insanity is...
whydidnt Verified Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Can I pat myself on the back for being closest? He just signed with Arizona for 2 years 15.5 million. Heck if the Twins had listened to me, maybe they could have had him for the 2/16 I proposed. I think he would have been a nice addition at 8/year, when you consider we had no problem giving that, or close to it to Pavano last year.
Rosterman Verified Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 I would give him $15.5 over two years.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 I'm not sure what the point of going after 2 year guys is... I'd go after 1 year upside guys and go after guys who will be in the rotation for 4 or 5...
John Bonnes Site Manager Posted December 8, 2012 Author Posted December 8, 2012 I'd have snapped him up for that 15.5/2-year deal in a second. I'd love to know what the Twins offered. Were they close, and the DBacks were just a better fit for him, or did they bid quite a bit less? (And frankly, I'd have loved to see them get him for 2/17 if that's what it took.)
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 I would give him $15.5 over two years. Well done... Right on the nose... I use the same method for my March Madness brackets.. I used to watch my final four teams drop out early. Then I came up with a better method... I now pick them after the game... I've only missed two total in the past 3 years using this method.
Rosterman Verified Member Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 The Twins need to show some semblance of competitiveness, really, in 2013 and 2014, otherwise, they won't attract free agents. Until the young turks are EASED into the system, free agents will give second thoughts to the team, unless they are overpayed or as a last resort. Does Arizona look better than Minnesota? Is he a NL or AL pitcher. Was it a difference of half-a-million or considerably more? We will never know.
greengoblinrulz Provisional Member Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 As the Twins/Terry Ryan do......they offerred a one year contract & are just waiting for someone to say OK......wasnt gonna be Brandon as that was a very decent contract.
Einstein Verified Member Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 2 years for $15.5? And that's out of the Twins price range? That says a lot about the Twins. Bargain basement here we come!
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