Go get Verlander

[MangLitch]

You keep calling this odd. It is possible the Twins did try to make a deal and the Royals liked what they got from Washington.Believe it or not, MLB teams use their own prospects rankings and scouting reports, not the lists you and I do to decide on players. It is also possible the Twins did not want to give up what the Royals wanted. Also possible the Twins didn't have interest in Herrerra. Lots of players will be traded between now and the end of August. Some may be traded by the Twins, some may be traded to the Twins, some may be traded between teams who are not the Twins.

 

Or even more plausible, since the GM has come out and said it, it was really hard for them to trade a player they signed at 16, and they wanted to put him in a great spot where he could compete for a title...

That’s exactly why it’s odd....

 

If it’s true they offered a lower package for him, that’s poor value attribution. No matter the rankings, the Nats got a steal and most agree. The royals may have asked for slightly more from Twins, sure. But it’s odd because slightly more than what Washington paid is still a good deal

 

If it’s true the twins weren’t interested in Herrera then I’m not real sure what they are looking at. It’s an elite arm at a position of need for a decent price.

 

And the bit about sentimental trades???? Cmon, that’s pandering. You don’t keep your job for feel good trades, you keep it for making good decisions. If they would have got what they wanted from the twins, they would have taken it and said the same thing. Twins are technically still in the race.

 

So ya, I find it odd that we couldn’t have made a better offer. The “odd” about it is that it signals we aren’t looking that direction and don’t want to give up mid level prospects. This isn’t the mark of a team that thinks it can win now. It’s the mark of a team not sure with what it has.

 

And maybe they are right to think that, just not a sign I want to see if I am looking forward to a push this year.

 

So ya, odd. A team pushing this year finds a way to make that deal happen at that cost or slightly higher

[Major League Ready]

 

The options are limited unless they want to give up on what we think are 'core' players.

It wouldn't surprise me if Sano is the primary 1B starting next season.

We will need move Sano to 1st after we get Machado this winter.    He would be the mega dollar free agent I could get behind. We would have a great IF for several years. In a couple years it would hopefully be Sano/Gordon/Lewis & Machado. We jsut need Buxton to get respectable in terms of hitting and we would be right there with the Yankees in terms of position players. Sano might flame out but we can hope Rooker pans out. Machado is in great shape. He has stayed healthy and you have to believe he is more likely to age well than some of the guys that got big deals and then declined relatively young. Yes, I am the first guy to point out some other teams have a decided revenue advantage but this is a monster contract I can get behind and we will have the greatest available payroll dollars since Target field opened.

[Vanimal46]

We will need move Sano to 1st after we get Machado this winter. He would be the mega dollar free agent I could get behind. We would have a great IF for several years. In a couple years it would hopefully be Sano/Gordon/Lewis & Machado. We jsut need Buxton to get respectable in terms of hitting and we would be right there with the Yankees in terms of position players. Sano might flame out but we can hope Rooker pans out. Machado is in great shape. He has stayed healthy and you have to believe he is more likely to age well than some of the guys that got big deals and then declined relatively young. Yes, I am the first guy to point out some other teams have a decided revenue advantage but this is a monster contract I can get behind and we will have the greatest available payroll dollars since Target field opened.

That's the dream... The Twins have the money too. It would be quite the accomplishment to sign Machado.

 

I do believe 3B is a priority for next season. Whether it's Escobar, Machado, another FA, or trade. We can't head into next season thinking Sano will be the star 3B we dreamed of.

 

EDIT: Sano would need a complete transformation of his body like Schwarber for me to believe he can play 3B going forward.

[MangLitch]

That's the dream... The Twins have the money too. It would be quite the accomplishment to sign Machado.

 

I do believe 3B is a priority for next season. Whether it's Escobar, Machado, another FA, or trade. We can't head into next season thinking Sano will be the star 3B we dreamed of.

Watch him come back and rake for the last two months and prove us wrong. Only to fall back into the buffet line next year. Meanwhile the twins sign no one because he figured it out for 2 months...... ugh

[Squirrel]

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