All or Nothing

[TNLooky2015]

Several baseball writers identify home runs and strikeouts together (feast or famine).  Others identify BB's and SO's together when identifying a hitters promise.  What identifies an All or Nothing hitter?

 

What has to be lacking in order to be labeled as such "All or Nothing"?  What is acceptable for you?

[ashbury]

What you are describing are the Three True Outcomes.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Three_True_Outcomes

 

I think All Or Nothing batters overlap this, but it usually implies low batting average and high home run power. I think you could find cases on either side of the walk spectrum, and the case of doubles power would be a gray area. But even a guy like Rob Deer had more singles in his career than home runs - it would be tough to find a pro player who truly was all or nothing.

[GMinTraining]

Most don't consider Brian Dozier an ALL or NOTHING player despite his:

77 singles

71 XBH

.236 BA

.307 OBP

.41 BB/k

5.6 Spd

.165 ISO

 

What prevents him from being an ALL or NOTHING type player?

 

[Dantes929]

 

Most don't consider Brian Dozier an ALL or NOTHING player despite his:

77 singles

71 XBH

.236 BA

.307 OBP

.41 BB/k

5.6 Spd

.165 ISO

 

What prevents him from being an ALL or NOTHING type player?

Fortunately, in the first half of the season he was ALL and the 2nd half he was NOTHING.  He should be less all or nothing and more all or something.     They pitched him away and put a big shift on him and he still tried pulling it all the time.    I think he is capable of a lot more.   

[GMinTraining]

How will this change take place and are the coaches even promoting change in his game? Bigger question.

[Platoon]

Fortunately, in the first half of the season he was ALL and the 2nd half he was NOTHING.  He should be less all or nothing and more all or something.     They pitched him away and put a big shift on him and he still tried pulling it all the time.    I think he is capable of a lot more.

 

He could be, but so far has shown no more inclination to adjust than several players who ended up riding buses all summer. Dozier does bring more to the game than just hitting, so I don't think he needed to ride a Greyhound all summer. That said, anyone thinking that he can both increase his average, go the other way, cut down on SO, AND still hit HR in the 20's is mistaken. He is not a natural power hitter. His power was from jumping up and in stuff and pulling it into a very small window in LF. In the words of some old guy who posts here from a warmer clime: Doziers problem is he thinks he's a HR hitter, and he's not!

[HitInAPinch]

 

Several baseball writers identify home runs and strikeouts together (feast or famine).  Others identify BB's and SO's together when identifying a hitters promise.  What identifies an All or Nothing hitter?

 

What has to be lacking in order to be labeled as such "All or Nothing"?  What is acceptable for you?

Dave Kingman!  Some of the most monstrous home runs I've ever seen.

 

Lifetime:  .236 AB,  1575 Hits,  499 HR,  608 BB's,  1816 K's

 

https://youtu.be/sRL99JXcm_0

at the 20 second mark...

 

[TNLooky2015]

If you hit as many doubles as home runs - can you still be considered ALL or Nothing?  Or are you considered a true power hitter in that case?