ShouldaCouldaWoulda Verified Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I looked at Fangraphs and tallied up the top 15 position players by WAR from 2013 and 2014. The average debut age is 22.7, median 22.66. So as many are after 22 than before. I have to admit this is an earler debut age than I would have thought (granted pitchers are probably a little later). In the case of Buxton, a debut of this year would be 21 with a throw away year. He certanly will debut before he is 23. Player Debut AgeMike Trout 19.95Andrew McCutchen 22.66Josh Donaldson 24.4Carlos Gomez 21.5Miguel Cabrera 20.1Matt Carpenter 25.5Robinson Cano 22.6Ben Zobrist 25.1Adrian Beltre 19.2Paul Goldschmidt 23.9Buster Posey 22.5Jose Bautista 23.5Alex Gordon 23.2Evan Longoria 22.5Hunter Pence 24 Average 22.70Median 22.66 Very nice work. Where did you get such exact debut ages? I would like to compare him to other CF'ers. Maybe last and present, as I just think it's more useful. I read something at Baseball Prospectus that showed that SS and CF were the youngest to come up, while catchers were understandably the oldest. Just think we should be comparing him "like" players in evaluating.
spinowner Provisional Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I looked at Fangraphs and tallied up the top 15 position players by WAR from 2013 and 2014. The average debut age is 22.7, median 22.66. So as many are after 22 than before. I have to admit this is an earler debut age than I would have thought (granted pitchers are probably a little later). In the case of Buxton, a debut of this year would be 21 with a throw away year. He certanly will debut before he is 23. Player Debut AgeMike Trout 19.95Andrew McCutchen 22.66Josh Donaldson 24.4Carlos Gomez 21.5Miguel Cabrera 20.1Matt Carpenter 25.5Robinson Cano 22.6Ben Zobrist 25.1Adrian Beltre 19.2Paul Goldschmidt 23.9Buster Posey 22.5Jose Bautista 23.5Alex Gordon 23.2Evan Longoria 22.5Hunter Pence 24 Average 22.70Median 22.66This is a very interesting bit of information, but please, everybody, keep in mind that these players are the top fifteen out of about 380 major league position players. This is the elite of the elite, not a representative sample, even if you want to consider the best players. It would be more reasonable to consider at least 50 or so at the top of the WAR list.
spinowner Provisional Member Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I don't think Buxton is ready yet, if he gets in a good streak (at least ten games of very good hitting) call him up, but I would rather have them trade for a guy like Will Venable.I respectfully disagree. Ten games of very good is no more indicative than ten games of very bad. I'd say it would take at least a couple months of consistent raking for me to push for a call-up to the big team.
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 I know who Buxton is. But who's this other guy you are talking about?
Thegrin Verified Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Buxton has not been in the Lookout lineup for the past 2 games. Why ?
whitsbrain Verified Member Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Don't look now but Buxton hasn't had an at-bat since Wednesday. I thought he might have an injury that we hadn't heard about, but he did come in as a defensive substitution on Friday night. On Thursday and Friday's Chattanooga games, Max Kepler got the start in CF and on Friday, he slid over to RF as a late inning change with Buxton in at CF. You don't suppose with Kepler already on the 40-man roster that the front office is looking for a possible call-up/quick fix for the Twins using Kepler in Center? Especially given Buxton's early struggles and all the time missed last year.
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