Game 61 - Twins vs Phillies - 6/13/12

[Bark's Lounge]

Let's at least hope that Plouffe stays hot.

That goes without saying:) My prediction: 2-4, 2b and a single --- Hopefully: 5-6, 2 hr, 9 rbi

[Thrylos]

More dirt came out from Gladden (on the radio broadcast) : Apparently Walters "couldn't get loose" in the pen and "alerted Andy". Andy made the decision to start him. Andy needs to go yesterday for more than this, but this is totally unacceptable. Period.

[IdahoPilgrim]

Yeah, I don't know who makes those decisions - the manager, the pitching coach, the training staff. My guess is they were hoping it would loosen up and he might be able to get through the lineup at least once, take a few innings and reduce the workload on the bullpen a little. In hindsight, not a good call.

[Bark's Lounge]

More dirt came out from Gladden (on the radio broadcast) : Apparently Walters "couldn't get loose" in the pen and "alerted Andy". Andy made the decision to start him. Andy needs to go yesterday for more than this, but this is totally unacceptable. Period.

I suppose this situation calls for another "Yuck". Yuck.

[IdahoPilgrim]

His last couple of starts haven't been that great either - I'm guessing this is something that's been coming on gradually.

[glunn]

And yet they sent him out there. This team boggles the mind at times, really.

The training staff and coaches do not seem to be on the ball.

[SwainZag]

Plouffe!!! Beast!

[glunn]

That goes without saying:) My prediction: 2-4' date=' 2b and a single --- Hopefully: 5-6, 2 hr, 9 rbi[/quote']

 

You were too pessimistic my friend. He has already "Plouffed" with his first at bat. I am predicting a second "Plouffe" before the night is over.

[Bark's Lounge]

You were too pessimistic my friend. He has already "Plouffed" with his first at bat. I am predicting a second "Plouffe" before the night is over.

These are the times when I like to be wrong. Maybe my hopeful prediction is still sea worthy!

[IdahoPilgrim]

Not that I'm trying to defend the decision to send him out, but I'm guessing that the fact they had to use five pitchers from the bullpen last night played a role in rolling the dice and seeing if Walters could do anything.

[IdahoPilgrim]

They're going to need a true gem from Diamond tomorrow - the bullpen is going to be shot to *#*).

[SwainZag]

Not that I'm trying to defend the decision to send him out, but I'm guessing that the fact they had to use five pitchers from the bullpen last night played a role in rolling the dice and seeing if Walters could do anything.

Well maybe that's why? Knowing they used 5, thought they could see if Walters could go, if not they would have Manship ready. Really no difference than scratching him and starting Manship.

[nicksaviking]

Going to need Butera early today.

[glunn]

Not that I'm trying to defend the decision to send him out, but I'm guessing that the fact they had to use five pitchers from the bullpen last night played a role in rolling the dice and seeing if Walters could do anything.

That seems like it could have been a factor, but the risk of further injury to his shoulder makes me wish that someone gets fired for this.

[IdahoPilgrim]

This will probably end the debate of what move to make. You keep Gray (ugh!), bring up Hendriks, and send Parmelee back to Rochester. Back to the 13-man pitching staff.

 

And then, if Walters needs to go on the DL, it's welcome back Cole.

[glunn]

This will probably end the debate of what move to make. You keep Gray (ugh!), bring up Hendriks, and send Parmelee back to Rochester. Back to the 13-man pitching staff.

Maybe they DL Walters to bring up Hendriks. But I would rather see Parmelee in Rochester than sitting on the bench.

[IdahoPilgrim]

Maybe they DL Walters to bring up Hendriks. But I would rather see Parmelee in Rochester than sitting on the bench.

But then they're going to need another starter anyway. I'm guessing they were going to bring up Hendriks for Saturday regardless - now if Walters goes out of the rotation, you need to replace him as well, hence DeVries.

[mikeee]

If Doumit can get on, it's puuuullfffff time!

[Ultima Ratio]

Keep chipping away at that lead. One or two run an inning and we'll have a shot in the end.

[IdahoPilgrim]

And Swarzak is in now - so he can't be used for a start on Saturday.

[glunn]

And Swarzak is in now - so he can't be used for a start on Saturday.

Time to call up Hendriks. He should be put on a plane tonight.

[Thrylos]

So the whole Target Field cheered for an opposing player hit a HR against the Twins. The same guy who hit one against the Twins in a game 163 a few years ago wearing a White Sox uni and made sure that the Twins did not make the post season. Yes he wore a Twins' uniform for a season and a half. But career-wise, he killed the Twins more than he helped them hands down.

I find rooting for an opponent who hit a home run in your home turf unacceptable. Period. Gotta draw the line. I guess there is a "new" generation of Twins fans who don't mind losing and like to root for the Twins to lose. This might explain all the love of Gardy, Andy and Co. Maybe. I sure don't like it.

[mikeee]

come on, span the man!!!!!

[snepp]

I find rooting for an opponent who hit a home run in your home turf unacceptable. Period.

 

Oh pull the cob out of your ass.

 

 

 

I guess there is a "new" generation of Twins fans who don't mind losing and like to root for the Twins to lose. This might explain all the love of Gardy, Andy and Co. Maybe. I sure don't like it.

 

As for this part, get the @#$% over yourself.

[glunn]

So the whole Target Field cheered for an opposing player hit a HR against the Twins. The same guy who hit one against the Twins in a game 163 a few years ago wearing a White Sox uni and made sure that the Twins did not make the post season. Yes he wore a Twins' uniform for a season and a half. But career-wise, he killed the Twins more than he helped them hands down.

I find rooting for an opponent who hit a home run in your home turf unacceptable. Period. Gotta draw the line. I guess there is a "new" generation of Twins fans who don't mind losing and like to root for the Twins to lose. This might explain all the love of Gardy, Andy and Co. Maybe. I sure don't like it.

I see your point, but I also see their point. This man is a HOF player who was a hero when he played for the Twins. If I was at the game, I would have been silent when he hit the homer but forgiving of my fellow fans who cheered.

[IdahoPilgrim]

So the whole Target Field cheered for an opposing player hit a HR against the Twins. The same guy who hit one against the Twins in a game 163 a few years ago wearing a White Sox uni and made sure that the Twins did not make the post season. Yes he wore a Twins' uniform for a season and a half. But career-wise, he killed the Twins more than he helped them hands down.

I find rooting for an opponent who hit a home run in your home turf unacceptable. Period. Gotta draw the line. I guess there is a "new" generation of Twins fans who don't mind losing and like to root for the Twins to lose. This might explain all the love of Gardy, Andy and Co. Maybe. I sure don't like it.

I can understand where you are coming from, but I have to admit it was fun to watch him hit another shot - even if it hurts us. It has nothing to do with liking losing, but in the short time he was here he really did connect with the fans, especially with his chase for 600 HRs. I don't know if you went to any games at Target Field the past couple of years, but I can tell you that a bond developed that is unusual with such a short stint, in part because it was clear in his interaction with the fans and the media that he is truly a class individual, and Minnesotans value that. I never want the Twins to lose, but at the same time I wish Thome all the best in whatever he does, and I thank him for the memories he left with me in the games I attended. Yes, he leads the league in HRs hit against the Twins (this was his 60th), but it was still a proud moment for us when he hit #600 in a Twins uniform.

[mhanson93]

I find rooting for an opponent who hit a home run in your home turf unacceptable. Period. Gotta draw the line. I guess there is a "new" generation of Twins fans who don't mind losing and like to root for the Twins to lose. This might explain all the love of Gardy, Andy and Co. Maybe. I sure don't like it.

A courtesy cheer for a legend and that means they are cheering for the Twins to lose?! That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

[glunn]

I can understand where you are coming from, but I have to admit it was fun to watch him hit another shot - even if it hurts us. It has nothing to do with liking losing, but in the short time he was here he really did connect with the fans, especially with his chase for 600 HRs. I don't know if you went to any games at Target Field the past couple of years, but I can tell you that a bond developed that is unusual with such a short stint, in part because it was clear in his interaction with the fans and the media that he is truly a class individual, and Minnesotans value that. I never want the Twins to lose, but at the same time I wish Thome all the best in whatever he does, and I thank him for the memories he left with me in the games I attended. Yes, he leads the league in HRs hit against the Twins (this was his 60th), but it was still a proud moment for us when he hit #600 in a Twins uniform.

This is a far more elegant response than mine, and I agree with it. I also share thrylos's frustration with the way the game is going tonight.

[Dilligaf69]

A couple of thoughts:

 

Walters looks to be not himself since pitch number 1. Something is wrong. Not to take yourself out of the game and staying and pitching BP and killing your team is inexcusable. (Pavano did the same thing too). Hope this is the last day of him in a Twins' uniform.

 

Jefferson Manship. I know there are a lot of fans here (Boras client and all), but the Twins can do better and there are more deserving arms in the minors.

 

Tonight really sucks so far

 

that's a little much don't ya think??

[mikeee]

Willie HAMMER!!!!