Game 61 - Twins vs Phillies - 6/13/12

[Ultima Ratio]

I would cheer him if he hit one against the Yankees or Red Sox, because I usually root for former Twins players when they are playing against anyone but the Twins. Please also note that Thome is much more likeable than AJ, and will probably make the HOF on the first ballot, so any homer he hits has historic merit.

I agree with what you say, and yes, no two player situations are the same. Like I said, if it were a milestone homer then opposing fans with knowledge of the game and the history should applaud it, but this was not such feet -- just a really great, really nice player pounding the hell out of our team. Funny, I have mixed feelings about AJ, love his competitiveness and grit, but just despise the rest of him.

[mhanson93]

Comparing Thome and AJ? Wow.

 

I feel like I "bleed blue" Twins fan for life, and I would have gave Thome a standing O as well. The guy is a great player, great guy and played super for us. If you are disgusted by a Thome HR tonight, be disgusted at the pitcher, not Thome.

I agree wholeheartedly. I'm not upset at Thome for hitting 60 HRs against the Twins. I'm more upset that the Twins have had so many tomato cans over the years for him to hit them off of.

[Dilligaf69]

Plouffe with 3 K's tonight! though:(

[Dilligaf69]

Walters pitched to 4 people and they all got on base. Hard to do.

 

OK but it's happened many times before i'm certain but still does'nt prove anything.

[glunn]

Productive strikeout by Carroll -- now Span needs to keep this going. We need to win this so that Thome's HR does not matter.

[Dilligaf69]

We can hit Papsmear... let's go Twins!

[Dilligaf69]

productive strikeout by carroll -- now span needs to keep this going. We need to win this so that thome's hr does not matter.

 

 

hahahaha!

[mikeee]

wiff, you big douf thome!!

[glunn]

Damnit Perkins -- you needed to catch that.

[Bark's Lounge]

There are several people here who were happy that Thome hit one out. Really. And many more at Target Field to give him a standing ovation. (and if someone is not disguisted by that, he/she ain't bleeding Twins' blue. Sorry)

Thyrlos - you are a tried and true die hard Twins fan. You have hard lines that can never be breached. It is War, it is never pretty, and it is unacceptable to cheer for the opposition no matter who it is. The mentality is to kill and destroy your opposition. For the most part I agree and like your method of madness. First and foremost I am a fan of Major League Baseball and it is very rare you come across the likes of a humble country fella who seems to be the nicest guy in baseball and has endeared himself to the baseball community country wide and certainly to the Twins Community. Thome is an anomaly, we might never see such a beloved baseball presence again, an individual who can breach the hard line of a baseball rivalry. My take is that you should cut some people some slack for cheering for him and his success against OUR team. Although Thome is more of a Twin Killer than a Twin - he was our most crucial offensive player in 2010 and hit some of the most monolithic HRs I have ever seen as a Twins fan. His HR against the Sux in August, 2010 has got to be one of the 5 greatest HRs in Twins History.

[glunn]

Thyrlos - you are a tried and true die hard Twins fan. You have hard lines that can never be breached. It is War' date=' it is never pretty, and it is unacceptable to cheer for the opposition no matter who it is. The mentality is to kill and destroy your opposition. For the most part I agree and like your method of madness. First and foremost I am a fan of Major League Baseball and it is very rare you come across the likes of a humble country fella who seems to be the nicest guy in baseball and has endeared himself to the baseball community country wide and certainly to the Twins Community. Thome is an anomaly, we might never see such a beloved baseball presence again, an individual who can breach the hard line of a baseball rivalry. My take is that you should cut some people some slack for cheering for him and his success against [b']OUR [/b]team. Although Thome is more of a Twin Killer than a Twin - he was our most crucial offensive player in 2010 and hit some of the most monolithic HRs I have ever seen as a Twins fan. His HR against the Sux in August, 2010 has got to be one of the 5 greatest HRs in Twins History.

Well said my friend. And it irks me when we squabble among each other. We may disagree, but are united by a common mania.

[glunn]

OK Perkins -- strike this fart out.

[Ultima Ratio]

I agree wholeheartedly. I'm not upset at Thome for hitting 60 HRs against the Twins. I'm more upset that the Twins have had so many tomato cans over the years for him to hit them off of.

I think everyone agrees with this. One can only be responsible for what one can control. One can't control the pitches Thome gets nor the resulting big fly. So, it wouldn't make sense to blame or be upset with Thome. Yet, one can control their reaction this event. Sure, get upset with the pitcher or at least the unfortunate result. But also, do not give a standing ovation (unless some historical milestone occurred). There was no milestone reached. The homer came at expense of our team. So why the standing O? I don't get it.

[glunn]

Standing ovation for Perkins!!! I am standing myself even though I am in California. Now let's get 2 runs and win this game.

[Mike Sixel]

Wow. Wish I was at this game....really entertaining and suspenseful...

[glunn]

I think everyone agrees with this. One can only be responsible for what one can control. One can't control the pitches Thome gets nor the resulting big fly. So, it wouldn't make sense to blame or be upset with Thome. Yet, one can control their reaction this event. Sure, get upset with the pitcher or at least the unfortunate result. But also, do not give a standing ovation (unless some historical milestone occurred). There was no milestone reached. The homer came at expense of our team. So why the standing O? I don't get it.

Maybe some Phillies fans started it and the Twins fans were merely being polite?

[glunn]

Hammer time!

[mikeee]

rats...........

[Thrylos]

Yeah

that's on Andy/Gardy

[glunn]

Yeah

that's on Andy/Gardy

Agreed -- Walters should not have started, and if this aggravated his injury then I am extra pissed.

[Ultima Ratio]

Maybe some Phillies fans started it and the Twins fans were merely being polite?

Well, I'll be at all three game when the Twins come to Pittsburgh next week. I'll be cheering loud and giving a standing O to any Twins home runs and doubt any Bucs fans join in. This has to be just an exhibition of MN nice or fan ignorance. Let's take the series tomorrow!

[Mike Sixel]

Why is it ignorant to cheer for a player you like? I don't get it. Whatever, it isn't really important, but I really don't get the thought that it is somehow inherently WRONG to root for a player you like.

[Thrylos]

Why is it ignorant to cheer for a player you like? I don't get it. Whatever, it isn't really important, but I really don't get the thought that it is somehow inherently WRONG to root for a player you like.

Well...

it is team vs a player

if you are a player fan you a player fan

if you are a team fan you are a team fan

and when the two colide, you gotta choose. Simple.

Some of us are Twins' fans.

[Ultima Ratio]

Why is it ignorant to cheer for a player you like? I don't get it. Whatever, it isn't really important, but I really don't get the thought that it is somehow inherently WRONG to root for a player you like.

My view is that you should root for whomever you like. Same goes for the team you like -- route for them. If there is a circumstance where routing for the player you like comes at the expense of the team you like, you must choose to either root for that player or the team as the success of one is mutually exclusive of the success of the other. It's a contradiction. My view is that fans cheering for both the team and this player are ignorant of that contradiction. It's not personal nor meant to be offensive. But I fight relativism, especially ethical relativism every chance I get.

[Ultima Ratio]

Well...

it is team vs a player

if you are a player fan you a player fan

if you are a team fan you are a team fan

and when the two colide, you gotta choose. Simple.

Some of us are Twins' fans.

Funny, I was writing my response, got up for few minutes, came back and finished, and here you've beat me to it.

[glunn]

Well, I'll be at all three game when the Twins come to Pittsburgh next week. I'll be cheering loud and giving a standing O to any Twins home runs and doubt any Bucs fans join in. This has to be just an exhibition of MN nice or fan ignorance. Let's take the series tomorrow!

I know what you mean. When I go to Angels games I wear a Twins shirt and hat and give standing ovations for Twins' homers and sit silently when the Angels fans stand. I also try to bring someone who is wearing Angels gear and/or who looks like he could be dangerous in a fight. You should have backup in Pittsburgh my friend.

 

An Anaheim, we usually have a decent number of Twins fans, especially near the Twins dugout and (for some strange reason) in a section that faces left field. There are lots of high fives when the Twins do well, and commiseration when they do not.

[Ultima Ratio]

 

I only know of one other couple here who are Twins fans, and oddly enough only met them because the saw me wearing my Twins Jersey walking down the street. They were so shocked they had to pull over and give me a ride down the street.

 

I plan on going whether I'm alone or not, though my wife will join me one night.

[IdahoPilgrim]

Interesting comments from Gardy in the post-game interview. He seemed to indicate there was no advance warning that Walters was hurting. Oliveros is coming up; corresponding roster move to be announced tomorrow after Walters MRI.

[glunn]

Well...

it is team vs a player

if you are a player fan you a player fan

if you are a team fan you are a team fan

and when the two colide, you gotta choose. Simple.

Some of us are Twins' fans.

Now that I think about it, I was at a game in Anaheim where Hunter homered against the Twins. I did not even consider joining the standing ovation. I wished that he had struck out like a dog. But if I was at a game where he hit one against the Sux, I would give the ovation, out of respect for what he did while he was on the Twins.

 

I think that you have hit the nail on the head thrylos. But there is one other fundamental principle in play, which is that Twins fans should root for each other. I rarely get to meet any fellow fans in person, but when they play in Anaheim there is a sacred bond amongst us. So while we might always agree, we must always have each other's backs.

[glunn]

 

I only know of one other couple here who are Twins fans, and oddly enough only met them because the saw me wearing my Twins Jersey walking down the street. They were so shocked they had to pull over and give me a ride down the street.

 

I plan on going whether I'm alone or not, though my wife will join me one night.

Try to get tickets near the Twins dugout -- you will have more friends there.