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New manager. Gardenhire and Molitor regularly turned lesser prospects into solid contributors. Having this many exciting offense prospects all be inconsistent and lack fundamental skills despite putting up excellent AAA numbers isn't a coincidence.
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They had the bullpen and rotation to compete. My opinion was that if they had a new owner who was willing to spend on one good offensive bat, which isn't a big request, and willing to hire a new manager who knows how to develop young players and get everyone to play fundamentally sound baseball, that they absolutely would have been a contender.
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I agree, but we don't know anything about the next ownership or next front office. That's why I only wanted to move expiring contracts. Even if they have similar mindsets, let the new people make decisions that will future impact.
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I do think the Brock Stewarts are the easiest lotto tickets to identify. The guys who performed well enough as a starter in AAA that their original team dabbled with them as a starter and couldn't fully commit to them being a reliever seem to have a high hit rate for their next team. Or their current team if they finally realize they should be a reliever.
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I'll say this, there seems to be a fervor here to make a bunch of trades. I'm presuming everyone is cool with the team putting no effort into winning next year then? Even if the Pohalds do sell? Because I don't think you trade away your controllable bullpen one year and then expect to be a contender the next.
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Because we're bored and this has been the most excitement we've had all season? Except for the expiring contracts, they can make these moves this winter too. Or next summer.
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I'd say production and years of control matter more for a relief pitcher than age does. It's probably the one position where age isn't the biggest factor actually.
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Not with two years of control. This team doesn't have to sell everyone RIGHT NOW. If Stewart does next year what he's done this year, his value will go way up. No need to sell him for peanuts now.
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I'm keeping Jax if the return is the same or less than Duran. And I'd expect he'd get less. Unless Jax is so pissed off at Baldelli after yesterday that he's already told the front office he's done with the team.
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I'm keeping Jax if the return is the same or less than Duran. And I'd expect he'd get less. Unless Jax is so pissed off at Baldelli after yesterday that he's already told the front office he's done with the team.
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With two years of control left, Stewart better bring back something at least close to eye-brow raising.
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Fair point, but I would only re-sign Bader to do with him exactly what they've done just now. But if he turns into a pumpkin, like Santana did this year, then they've basically just wasted the year giving him at bats that a rebuilding team should be giving to younger players.
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Wow, is it even legal to trade a 16-year-old?!?!? Even saying that makes me feel like I'm going to be put on an FBI watch list.
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Bader feels a lot like Carlos Santana. A largely disliked signing who put up much better offensive numbers than expected to make us (me) eat my words. Like Santana, I wouldn't like to bank on it two years in a row though.
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For two non-descript A ball pitchers. Coulombe is also an expiring contract but has been much better, the Twins should get more, so this is a good benchmark to check back on.
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For sure, at least not if Derek Falvey is running things, he's going to give him a long leash to show it was a good trade. If there is a new guy running things, all bets are off. Often new GMs go out of their way to show they're doing things different and don't agree with the last guy.
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Only using two of Gray's 13 MLB seasons and one of Abel's MiLB seasons? That's the most cherry picked argument I've seen. Abel's career MiLB BB/9 is 5.1. I'm guessing it's going to be very difficult to find successful starting pitchers with the same historical numbers in that category. I already mentioned Randy Johnson, I'm happy to listen on more but I'm quite sure he's an outlier. If the Phillies were basing their pitcher preference based on this year's AAA numbers, they would have hands down insisted on trading Painter, not Abel. They didn't and they know both pitchers better than anyone. And I actually like the Abel part of the deal better than the A Ball catcher. I don't hate him, I just don't think his chances of sticking in the rotation are nearly as high as what's being presented. He looks like Trevor May to me. Good player, but not a starter, and not a Duran replacement either.
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Sonny Gray has a MiLB career 3.1 BB/9 and MLB career 2.9 BB/9. He never approached the poor numbers Abel had. Again, hopefully he figured something out and this year is the new normal, I just think it's rare that it happens. More often than not these guys end up in the pen.
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If the Pohlad's are truly selling soon, I'm sure they only care about Houston taking the rest of the salary that they still owe him this year.
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He struggled every year until this season. He was only given prospect consideration because of his draft position; he should have never had any shine. Look, I'm not going to write him off, I'm hopeful that his success this year is permanent, but historically, unless you're Randy Johnson or Nolan Ryan, guys with control issues do not end up turning into good starters. The walk numbers look better this year, so maybe he's figured something out, we'll have to hang our hopes on that. However, that's not typically something that is fixed with young pitchers, usually they either have decent control or they don't.
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I think you're misunderstanding the fans' unrest. Without speaking for EVERYONE, my position is that the Twins should only have traded Duran if it was a massive overpay, and based on all the national reviews, it was not, it was fair to slightly favorable to Philadelphia. There was zero need to trade him, he was still under contract for two more years. The headliner was a A ball catcher, so all this move did was tell the fans that the Twins are already waiving the white flag on the 2026 season as well.
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I'd take the AAA CF with the .350 OBP the Giants got over the lotto ticket A ball catcher the Twins got. Sure, looking them over I'd take Abel over Tidwell, but that's much closer to a wash than the offensive end of the deal. Both pitchers have a history of command that looks like they're ending up in the bullpen.- 482 replies
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I've been saying all along that we shouldn't get our hopes up about a new owner. But if the new person is ever going to try to build good will with the fans and/or shoot for the stars, it's going to be in the first year or two.
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An elite bullpen does help next year if a new owner is willing to increase payroll by 20M and they hire a manager who wants to develop young players and can teach fundamentals. And both of those are minor asks from a new owner.
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