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  1. KirbyDome89
    "You ask for more assets because of the risk being absorbed by taking JDL... and there was a lot of it... a lot less than whatever risk LA absorbs by taking BD." Maybe you two should figure that one out...
  2. KirbyDome89
    I guess I'm not as enamored with idea of one more year of Dozier or having to pay significant money to extend him.
  3. KirbyDome89
    Where have I been inconsistent? Risk aversion isn't going to get them the pitching they need.
  4. KirbyDome89
    The current WS champs would argue differently.
  5. KirbyDome89
    Chargois isn't JDL so not sure where you're going with that....but he is a future bullpen piece so... If you're brining in a starting pitcher with the intention of him being in the rotation beyond 18' you're setting yourself up for the future...
  6. KirbyDome89
    They would've had him through 2023.....so yes, it is.
  7. KirbyDome89
    How is attempting to build a staff beyond 2017 a myopic view?
  8. KirbyDome89
    Moore showed up in 06'... Which is why they won't hold onto Cain, Hosmer, ect...We've already watched key pieces of that bullpen walk. Watch them start slashing position players from that roster. That payroll arrow is pointing down, not up. They built a core, bulked up where they needed to and made a run to two WS and won one. That is the definition of maximizing for a team like KC. I never said I want the Twins to copy that blueprint but if I'm a Royals fan I can't be mad about "one division title," over that span.
  9. KirbyDome89
    They made 2 consecutive WS appearances.... I'll take that over division titles any day. Given the constraints Moore had to work within Idk how you can call that run with their young players anything other than great execution. If ownership actually decided to spend they could've been a regular contender.
  10. KirbyDome89
    Everybody wants to "win," every move and always wants more. As fans of course we always want a better deal, but our feelings towards that are irrelevant. Sometimes you pay or take market value, and in this case it was JDL.
  11. KirbyDome89
    The existing contract is part of his value. He's cheap now, he won't be after this season. You move vets who have actual trade value, can leave soon via FA, and play a position that the organization can fill from within. Hello Brian Dozier.
  12. KirbyDome89
    I would ask for more too, but it doesn't mean the Dodgers were ever going to give up JDL + Stewart + Buehler + more like you suggested.
  13. KirbyDome89
    Sure they can explore it again, but I don't see them getting the massive return they desired last season. I would much rather keep the prospects, especially since this franchise refuses to spend.
  14. KirbyDome89
    I honestly don't know how anybody can think he's going to fetch more of a return with only one year left and a lesser season (16' > 17') in the books. I agree, I don't want them trading away core position players either. Dozier happened to play a position of depth and had actual trade value. If they won't move him they're looking at either trading prospects or sinking money into mediocre FA pitching rather than extensions for all their young players. Both hurt the longterm outlook for the team. I'm not beating the drum because I'm a huge JDL fan. I see the non trade as a missed opportunity to pick up cheap, upside pitching which would give the Twins a better shot at keeping the core together and having enough money to sign a pitcher that will actually be a difference maker in the rotation.
  15. KirbyDome89
    Personally I think KC, given their financial constraints, executed their window perfectly. Idk if it's so much a market inefficiency as it is inept management and cheap owners but I feel like that's another conversation. The trade would've made made in order to do just that though. It isn't just an extension beyond FA in 2022 or 23' that the Twins have to worry about; those guys are all hitting arbitration in a couple years. A comp pick would be fine if Dozier leaves, but that player isn't likely to provide any short term value either.
  16. KirbyDome89
    If JDL is an above average pitcher in a few years and the Twins continue to struggle with putting together a rotation that can actually win a real playoff series (they've done nothing to suggest they won't be) it'll be a giant black eye... No chance LA or ANY other team offers a package like that for Dozier...
  17. KirbyDome89
    I would say they are truly desperate, especially given the money it's going to take to keep the core together. That dollar is relative. The Twins can assign any price they please to Dozier, but if others teams don't meet that price it doesn't mean they're offering $.80 on the dollar. I agree, teams were lukewarm on Dozier for those and other reasons, but isn't that an indicator that the Twins were asking possibly asking too much?
  18. KirbyDome89
    If that comp pick could make an immediate impact I might be able to get on board with that, but it's highly unlikely that pick contributes before Buxton and co. reach arbitration.
  19. KirbyDome89
    If your focus is only 2017 then sure. If you're concerned with building a staff and still being able to pay all your young position players over the next 5 seasons maybe you reconsider that stance.
  20. KirbyDome89
    Innings can be managed smartly throughout the course of a season. What about 19'? 20'? 21'-23'? You realize making that trade isn't about only 2017 right? So JDL + C- single A prospect gets it done for you?
  21. KirbyDome89
    If you're cool with a rotation that features Gee then enjoy struggling to make the one game playoff and watching prime years of talented young position players be wasted by a rotation that is at best a dumpster fire.
  22. KirbyDome89
    You don't build playoff teams by refusing to sell veteran players nearing FA because you've assigned a value that nobody in the league is willing to pay. You don't build playoff teams by stocking your rotation with middle to back end guys and propping them up as front end starters.
  23. KirbyDome89
    So you're cool with Dillon Gee and the 10 other AAAA pitchers rolling through the 4-5 spots in the rotation? You don't build playoff rotations by turning down the best offer you get for the best tradable asset you have.
  24. KirbyDome89
    You don't make that trade thinking that JDL immediately produces the same value as Dozier. That should be obvious. He has more value even though 16' > 17' and he has one less year left? I don't know where people are getting this.... They need to have the talent in order to develop it. They don't seem to have it, and even if they did there isn't much of a track record to suggest they could do it. They aren't going to spend real money on front end FA pitchers. They either trade the few valuable vets they have, or start gutting the farm and/or trading some of the core. I would rather see the vets go... You think TB is interested in a one year rental for JDL? C'mon....
  25. KirbyDome89
    If we're having this discussion one year ago at this time it would be Berrios in question. Yeah, a one game playoff was nice, especially after last year, but unless they do something drastic to improve the pitching, the best they can do with the current group might be a one game playoff or early postseason exit. That would be a shame given how promising some of the young position players look.
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