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  1. KirbyDome89
    If we're hoping for a start like last season then it isn't a big deal. But, at least they have "depth," now....
  2. KirbyDome89
    C'mon man didn't you drink the Kool-Aid yet? The bullpen saviors are coming.....
  3. KirbyDome89
    Yeah...14 starts....as a rookie..... Rather than build off of that he is back in AAA, a level he has beaten up, and we're watching Hughes throw bp and Tyler Duffey getting shot number 3 at the rotation. If "sucked last year," was grounds for demotion then Ervin would be the only one standing....
  4. KirbyDome89
    What you're calling pushing him into a role I would characterize as granting him an opportunity. AAA is nothing but biding time for him. Most teams with promising young arms that have dominated the highest levels of the minor leagues look to promote them to the major league team, especially when they have an awful staff to begin with. The handling of prospects by this team is anything but normal...
  5. KirbyDome89
    Easiest? Yes. Likeliest? I doubt it. Vanimal said it perfectly earlier; if Santiago can get stretched out to be the 3-4 starter why can't Berrios do the same thing to be the 5? I don't agree that its a run of the mill decision for a team to option their only above average pitching prospect back to AAA where he has dominated for 2 years before he throws a single pitch in camp. Add to that the state of pitching staff and it does feel a lot like an excuse to dodge some criticism.
  6. KirbyDome89
    Or he never was an option and the Twins used the WBC as a convenient excuse (copyright Vanimal) to avoid taking too much heat from sending him back to a level he has dominated for 2 years.
  7. KirbyDome89
    Meh, there is a big difference between trying to paint corners with a 4 pitch mix and throwing your two plus pitches out of the pen. Like I said, check some former Twins relievers, namely Joe Nathan's K/BB during his minor league career. He isn't throwing max velocity as a starter. No pitcher has the stamina to pitch that way over the course of a game. Moving to the pen would add mph to his fastball.
  8. KirbyDome89
    So this offseason they fail to sign any impact arm to aid what was one of the worst bullpens in baseball, and now they've decided to send the only impact pitcher they potentially have down to AAA. I'm not sure which scenario is more discouraging; Molitor once again showing no interest in getting the younger guys innings, or the new FO taking what seems to be a very familiar approach.... Don't get me started on the "he adds depth," angle. The pitcher taking his spot can be that depth. Depth isn't an excuse for a lesser pitcher starting the season in the bullpen.
  9. KirbyDome89
    "Moving him to the pen is not going to keep him from giving up hit and walks" So then its exactly what was said? Coming in from the bullpen for one inning, throwing your 2 plus pitches, and hopefully facing 3 batters is different than trying to work through a lineup 3-4 times as a starter. Very different. I would urge you to take a look at a list of successful relievers who struggled as starting pitchers or if you don't want to do any digging just call to mind the last few dominant relievers the Twins had.
  10. KirbyDome89
    So failed starter = failed reliever? Couldn't disagree more with that take.
  11. KirbyDome89
    I think a Santiago vs. Nolasco comparison would be a more accurate indicator of who won that trade. So far it looks like LA. I was thrilled to see that Nolasco was traded last summer until I read the details of the trade. With the arbitration contract they gave Santiago and the 4 million they're paying LA this season the two are basically the same price (12 - 12.5 million). The Twins literally just swapped starting pitchers and the price to do it was giving up a former top prospect who even if he flames out as a starter (and so far he has) could still be a valuable bullpen piece. I have a hard time looking at this trade and saying the Twins got the better end of it.
  12. KirbyDome89
    Hammer meet nail
  13. KirbyDome89
    Again, this isn't about spending just to spend. I've been clear about that. We'll chalk it up to a difference in philosophy.
  14. KirbyDome89
    The Twins pitching at the MLB level is $%&$ing garbage. Gonsalves had another should flare up. The Twins insist it isn't it isn't a big deal, which means he'll land on the DL sometime midseason with a serious injury as is typical Twins fashion. Jay is now a non-factor for the future of the rotation. Stewart can't strike anybody out. Its all concerning, including Gordon now playing some 2B. As a whole it makes the loss of the #6 pick from the rotation that much worse. I have seen very little, if any argument against him pitching from the bullpen. I think the timing is curious but I don't have a massive issue with the switch. I'm not sure why you seem so perplexed as to the concern expressed over losing a potential starter. Its a BIG deal. Right now the house is burning to the ground and the hose to put it out is losing water. People should be concerned....
  15. KirbyDome89
    The fact that a new FO made the decision to move him to the bullpen doesn't change the fact that he was drafted to be a starter. No longer having the #6 overall pick as a potential candidate to fill a rotation spot hurts....a lot.
  16. KirbyDome89
    It absolutely is. The available payroll is what they decide to make it. The idea that this franchise can't afford to pay a player $20 million per season moving forward is where people start to lose me. They're definitely a mid market team, but they prefer everybody to treat them as if they're small market. They're sitting at a little over 30 million dollars under the league average team salary right now. Mauer comes off the books after next season. MLB revenue continues to increase, meaning more sharing is generated. Somehow despite all this the Twins payroll has been decreasing over the last few seasons and now they can't even afford to hand out a contract close to Mauer's without drying up the well? I think the reality is that it is just easier to believe that this franchise can't spend above an imaginary line because they've refused to do it for so long...
  17. KirbyDome89
    Thanks for the FO update... I must be misreading the posts defending the selection of Jay at #6 then. The criticism of the move is about what the Twins thought he was going to be when he was drafted and where he is now. When you select a player #6 overall with the idea he'll be a starting pitcher and two seasons later he is going to be in the bullpen full time that is a bad selection at that spot. If he becomes Andrew Miller as some have stated then sure, the pick doesn't look so bad, but that isn't the case right now. To me, that issue isn't in the lease bit moot/debatable.
  18. KirbyDome89
    Not sure where that implication came from but yeah I know. If baseball was capped then yeah it would. However, its the same thing I said in a earlier post; they're moderate players in FA at best so a large deal shouldn't change how they're operating. That big signing only "hurts," them as much as they allow it to. Do I believe they'll spend that money? Not a chance....
  19. KirbyDome89
    Of course I agree, if they're ripping it down there isn't value in the 3-4 year window. The signing is only viable if Buxton, Sano, Kepler, ect take more steps forward and it looks like a core is forming. I get the prospect volatility aspect, but they're also necessary. Not all prospects are created equal and its often the elite ones (lowest chance to bust) that must be moved to bring back established talent. No, nobody misses Hicks, but those deals go both ways as well. I'm certain the D-backs would redo that Miller/Swanson trade in a heartbeat. If they had a glut of young talent in the minors or if they were a respectable MLB team then yeah it would make total sense to me to deal some prospects for a starting pitcher. I just see the Twins lacking in so many areas right now that for me, spending cash to keep some of the talent they do have is the lesser of two evils.
  20. KirbyDome89
    So they drafted him at #6 because he had the "stuff," to be a front of the rotation piece. Now they're moving him back to the bullpen because he doesn't have the enough of a mix to be a starter. But this doesn't look like a bad pick and the move doesn't have any negative impact on future rotations? Hmmm....those don't seem to mesh. I'm not sure which is more taxing; the mental gymnastics performed to rationalize the move or the physical toll from bending over backwards to defend it.
  21. KirbyDome89
    Performance risk doesn't discriminate between a trade or FA signing. Yes, the last years of big contracts rarely are good years, but they also aren't counted on to be stellar seasons in terms of performance. No team signs a player to a seven year deal and expects all those seasons to be elite, its just like you said they're paying for roughly 3-4 years solid performance and the rest of the contract is the price for those good years and keeping their young talent. Personally I would rather the Twins use cash instead of prospects to bring in talent. The rebuild is centered around drafting and developing (insert joke here) players. Giving those players up via trade feels a lot like robbing peter to pay paul. If they were a pitcher away from a WS then I could understand it, but right now they need all the young talent they can get.
  22. KirbyDome89
    I think a lot of the push for signing a front of the rotation starter IS about how the money is spent though. The Twins have been moderate players at best in FA, I don't think that has to change if they open it up and sign an ace type pitcher. Given the current state of the pitching staff and performances by pitching prospects it isn't crazy to think the only young arm they have with a chance to be that #1 starter is Gonsalves and hes still a long shot. They need to do something to fix this horrendous pitching. They've been unable to move Dozier and if they refuse to dip into the market to sign top tier FAs the only other option for bringing back top end talent is trading away their own top young talent. Personally I would rather endure a 7 year 150 million dollar contract than watch former Twins prospects turn into quality major league players with other teams.
  23. KirbyDome89
    No? It isn't an expected outcome which is precisely why I don't buy the idea that they were just on the wrong side of luck. Its obvious the chances of being swept in three straight series are extremely low. Its a .2% chance of losing that many games in a row. If somebody is going to point to the reason for all those losses as simply bad luck then like I said before, they must be the unluckiest team in all of baseball. I agree you'll never see a line like that for a playoff game. I have no idea what the lines were for those games (too lazy to check) but I'm sure they should've won at least a couple during that 9 game stretch. The argument isn't that they were 0-9 bad or 3-19 bad, its that given the percentage chances or reaching those records, the idea that they were just "unlucky," seems ridiculous. IMO other factors (inferiority compared to competition) played a large part in their hapless postseason performance.
  24. KirbyDome89
    Agreed; at this point given how bad the staff is, refusal to sign a FA difference maker leaves them with no choice but to trade for one. Moving an established vet (DOZIER!) for a front end prospect is most preferable but yeah as painful as it would be to give up prospects (especially pitchers) it might be the better alternative to wait/hope all the prospects work out.
  25. KirbyDome89
    I get not wanting to drop big cash on a FA pitcher, and I agree that the back of those contracts rarely if ever work out, but I don't know if I see another way in which this team as it stands can legitimately compete for a WS. Of course I would rather they develop front end starters and fill out their entire staff from within before looking outward but how realistic is that? There is a large push to build in that regard and I agree with it, the problem is that by the time they've established a pitching pipeline (if they ever do, they are the Twins...) the team could be looking at players like Sano or Buxton walking ie the window suddenly closing. For the long term obviously they need to focus on scouting and development, but if we're talking about putting together a solid playoff pitching staff to coincide with the rise of Buxton, Sano, Kepler, ect I just don't know if there is enough time to do that via development before those players are at the end of their contracts. I feel like if you're banking on being able to build a pitching staff in the next few years without spending for an ace then nearly all of the young pitchers in the minors are going to hit their ceiling as well as the Twins finding gold in a trade a la Jake Arrieta. That is a lot to ask. The end of big FA contracts suck, no doubt about it, but if they can use a contract like that as a bridge until they actually establish a pitching pipeline then I'm all for it.
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