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  1. I'm not surprised some people won't like Astudillo watching the HR. I'm not surprised some people will love the "celebration." I'm not sure either side is particularly wrong. Either way, throwing at him is a b**** move. This same discussion will come up at least a couple more times here this season. The end.
  2. Wanting to win and trying to win aren't the same thing.
  3. I could certainly be guilty of misreading it as well. They'd have to exceed league average to absorb a large signing and hold onto core young players. What little optimism I have regarding this organization's willingness to commit to winning remembers their 10' and 11' payrolls and thinks it might happen. Maybe this is where I misunderstood, but I took your OP to mean that teams weren't able to hold onto guys like Schoop and Cron because they couldn't afford to. IMO those players become fringe roster types due to the ease with which they can be replaced, rather than teams letting them go against their own desires. Whether it's an internal option, or a FA, there's a large enough pool for teams to choose their "gambles."
  4. That is why, when they do not appear to be doing things that will help the team win in the short term, they couch the moves in terms of “sustained success,” with the implicit promise that more winning will come later even if it doesn’t come now. That is why they explain seemingly cheap moves as moves that “maintain financial flexibility,” with the implicit promise that while money is not being spent now, it will be spent later. That is why, when they pass on a seemingly fantastic free agent, they focus attention to the potentially bad final years of a contract rather than focus on the early years in which a championship might be won, implicitly casting the free agent as sour grapes best not eaten. EXACTLY the same thing going on here.... Hopefully more posters see this, it's a perfect summation of the frustrations a lot of us seem to feel.
  5. Exactly, but it's different to say that teams choose to replace players rather than they're forced to let them go. Personally I don't think it's any more of a gamble to replace a Cron or Schoop than it is to sign one of them and expect production closer to career peaks rather than valleys. Signing a Harper or Machado doesn't preclude the Twins from holding onto their younger players, unless you think they'll be unwilling to spend above league average, which itself is a greater issue.
  6. So ditto for Kepler here; buying out arbitration and one FA year with the potential for one more. I'm pretty neutral on this deal, as I'm pretty neutral on Kepler in general. If they had planned to start locking these guys up this winter, the lack of activity in the trade market and FA makes even less sense to me....
  7. Exactly. I'm cool with the deal, in part because I'm a big Jorge fan, but the Twins are only committed to buying out one FA year. If that year, and the two options, are at or near market value it isn't a "team friendly," deal, which again, is fine.
  8. I wouldn't call it a case of either Cron or Schoop's talent pricing them out, in fact I'd say it was the exact opposite. Each became available more so because their former teams felt, as you said, that they could replace the production while spending less. Cleveland is a different story with their own financial issues. I don't think it's an apples to apples comparison with other mid market teams, and I'm not even sure they should be considered a mid market sized organization. You're right, if the Twins see a dramatic uptick in arbitration spending it's because their young players are performing well, but isn't that a scenario to be desired? Those are exactly the guys this team should be trying to extend/hold onto. That's a no-brainer. The organization will still have to supplement via FA or trades; they're not building a team completely from home grown talent. In that case there's no reason not to spend on FAs. If the young players go belly up then they save on the arbitration side and the FAs can be moved. IMO it's about where you're investing your FA $$ and draft capital. This "wait and see," approach does nothing but potentially burn a year of cheap production and lengthen the laundry list of needs entering next season.
  9. I'd describe it as no intention to sign them rather than waiting.
  10. Maybe not the best comp. Jackson had serious questions about his ability to throw coming out of Louisville, and if anything his rookie season showed why. Baltimore ripped off a nice win streak at the end of the year, but it was the defense and running game (of which Jackson was a part of) that carried the team. Baltimore is fully committed after dealing Flacco today. We'll see how it turns out, but IMO Jackson is going to have a hard time sticking in the league as a pedestrian passer with a crazy high run usage.
  11. Unless you believe that the signing of any of those four is at the level of Perez I'm not sure why you'd expect objections.
  12. Anybody else get a good laugh out of LeBron complaining about the Harrison Barnes trade, or KD throwing a temper tantrum during his media session the other day? Have a little perspective fellas....
  13. I think everybody can agree that this team operates in a more modern way. As far as internal operations go, yes, they get a pass from me as well. They've certainly seemed to have handled the draft much better than Ryan did in his later years. Cave *should* be a decent 4th OFer, so that's a nice find. It isn't all doom and gloom. I think my issue is the same as yours. I was fine with year 1 being an evaluation year ect. That isn't the case so much with year 3. I think "hope," is the key word with the Perez signing, and a lot of what is tied to the FO. I'm fine with optimism, I was just expecting for it to be rooted in more solid ground at this point.
  14. It's true that a great process won't always yield stellar results, but if the outcome is consistently underwhelming doesn't that have to reflect on the process at some level? IMO a lot of the defense of the FO at this point is blind faith. That doesn't mean I'm grabbing my pitchfork here, but their decisions/process need to start playing out on the field. It's year 3 and there really is no strong sense of direction, or much in terms of tangible results that inspire confidence moving forward.
  15. Not all question marks are equal. Do you believe the Perez signing has the same odds of going belly up as signing Soria or Ottavino and slotting Romero into the rotation?
  16. A little bit of both, though I'd add the qualifier this option rather than an option. IMO adding a question mark to a group rife with them doesn't make much sense, at least not if the goal is to improve.
  17. I've wanted to do something like this for a while. I'd probably move the powder blues higher but in total I think you nailed the rankings. I'm still in my 20s so my affinity for the blues is purely "retro," but I loved it when they did the "Turn back the clock," uniforms. I'm also a big fan of the 73'-86' Home jerseys mainly because of the red hat/navy bill combo which I'm a sucker for. To me the pinstriped whites and road uniforms are the Twins I grew up. The creme alternatives were the next best thing after that set was retired. I feel like I'm in the minority here, but I'm not a fan at all of the new home whites. To me they're incredibly blah. As for the new alternates, a friend at work described them to me as looking like "those cheap knock off jerseys you buy at Target." I don't know if I'd go that far but they definitely add to the "meh," feeling I have towards the current uniform grouping.
  18. I'm in total agreement that the pitching depth has serious questions, but isn't that more of an indictment of the Perez signing rather than a justification for it?
  19. I think that's fair. These signings are almost always meaningless, but it'd be a crazy coincidence if the best filler almost always had ties to Cleveland or TX. Every organization has their guys, so it's hard to get too worked up, but I was hoping this FO might buck that trend a bit.
  20. I'm glad we agree that they shouldn't be the focus. My issue is with shifting the attention towards MAGA hats as a pseudo defense after it became obvious the original reporting wasn't close to accurate.
  21. Yes and no. Kepler has been more consistent than Buxton or Sano in terms of aggregate numbers; his splits are anything but consistent. He arrived at roughly the same place last season, and the one before, but the paths he took to those end results are entirely different. Depending on the extension I can certainly see the value in retaining him, but I also understand some of the concern or lack of enthusiasm.
  22. I realize they weren't receiving a full pass, but talking about how the BIs were triggered is shifting the focus. It's already been said, but the "why," isn't important here; their reputation speaks for itself. Saying the BIs were triggered is just building a back door for them to crawl out of. It doesn't excuse their actions entirely, but it certainly softens what should be a harsh view of the group. In that regard I do think it's a bit of a defense.
  23. So we're defending the Black Israelites now....yikes is right.... It's clear you're most interested in holding up a particular side here. "If that's what makes you feel better, go ahead," but spare the rest of us the moral grandstanding....
  24. How is that in any way a defense of the reaction? Rather than address the point I made you've decided to sling mud....
  25. It's absolutely relevant, the entire altercation is reframed by the earlier parts that were purposely edited out.
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