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It's fairly sad because it has been almost 70 years, and he sucks total ass, but I kind of agree with you. Mostly because...just across the Bay there exists a great franchise. Not to mention that franchise was moved itself by a greedy POS owner. Baseball fans in Oakland still have baseball within public transport distance. It's hard to be too upset about it, especially with a move that has a chance to become a huge net win for baseball as a whole. Plus the Athletics have been moved around twice in their history already. They're basically a traveling team. Las Vegas be stewards for 50 years and then...onto Charlotte? (mostly kidding)
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Spoiler alert: Billionaires don't get to be billionaires by being good people, especially in community banking. Yet here you are getting all defensive because some deceased billionaire keeps getting disparaged. Carl Pohlad was basically Mr. Potter from It's A Wonderful Life. The fact that he made some philanthropic donations (solely for tax benefits almost certainly) doesn't change that. Why are there so many people on this board that keep carrying water for the quintessential evil billionaire? I keep having comments deleted because...it’s too mean or whatever. But I'll keep saying it because it remains true...
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Fun Fact: Mets LCS tickets are going for twice as much as Yankees LCS tickets on the secondary market right now. The Yankees aren't fun and everyone in the city knows this. The Yankees...they're a hat company. Do not be surprised if the Mets overcome the Yankees as THE New York team in the next 3 years. If the Yankees are truly a $7 Billion, franchise, I can tell you that Steve Cohen envisions the Mets potential value instead of their current value. Forbes has them at $2.9B? That's nice, but Steve thinks they can be $5B in 5 years. And $10B in 10 years. So, I say again, are the Mets worth 2x as much as the Twins? Hell yeah they are.
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New ownership is quite literally the most important thing happening with this team over the next 6 months, if not 2 years. What sense would it make to ban discussion about it?
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Potential value of the Mets IS the Yankees and Cohen is doing his best to get there. Yankees are old news. Are they more popular with the old families in NY, sure, but NYC is a transient city. 2/3 of New Yorkers weren't born in NYC. And the Mets are way more popular with this demographic. The Yankees are a boring corporate team. The Mets are fun. The only reason the Mets aren't already bigger than the Yankees is, despite having a far superior stadium, the game day experience is lacking. Well, Cohen is spending a bunch of money to develop the area around Citi to try to fix that. So, are the Mets 2x as valuable as the Twins? Absolutely. LFGM
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We just fundamentally disagree. This is just wrong. It's possible nothing really changes, sure, but the new owners will 100% have a sway on the direction of the organization and to think otherwise is foolish.
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So enjoy it man! You're allowed to be optimistic, without the caution! This is way more important than a wild card. Imagine how you felt when the Twins beat the Blue Jays last year. You should basically be just as happy.
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Like I said, the Genesis of this exchange is the first dude completely misunderstanding the comment. So how are you supposed to have a nuanced conversation? I get that it's likely the new owner isn't great. We all know this. But we also all know it's very unlikely to get worse. And a very good chance to get better. The only people disagreeing with this are people that are trying to argue that the pohlads aren't that bad actually. And those people are wrong. End of nuance.
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You people are so afraid of an unlikely outcome that you can't even enjoy great news.
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Payroll is one small thing. You commented on someone's comment suggesting that they were wrong to be happg at this news. The pohlads suck. The worst case scenario with this is the twins end up with a new owner that sucks. You'll have to forgive me for not being fearful that the new owner will be worse than the owners that tried to kill a franchise and threatened to move them constantly.
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Well this is specific exchange is off them misunderstanding someone else's comment, so makes sense. Pohlads aren't good owners. No one here needs to do anything but roll their eyes when someone pretends they are actually decent.
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You seem to be carrying a lot of water for the Pohlads so I won't try to convince you they're bad. You just stay with the belief that they're good actually and the Twins were lucky to have their stewardship for 4 decades. Carl was really just looking out for us when he tried to contract the franchise after all.
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I don't think you're understanding what they're saying. The pohlads are objectively bad owners. And people here are scared of the sale because there is a small chance the new owner is somehow worse. This is great news and anyone pretending it isn't is Debbie downer.
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I said it in the other thread, and I'll repeat it because it's true. This is WAY more exciting than if the Twins had gone 5-5 down the stretch and limped into the playoffs. This is actually potential hope for the franchise. We all know the Twin Cities to be a great metropolitan area and undeserving of terrible ownership whose only goal was to extract dollars. The Pohlads hated the fans so much, their mindset permeated the fanbase, having Twins fans suggesting MSP is a small market and that it should consider itself lucky just to have a team at all. There were even people on this very website questioning if the fans were the problem. The 2024 Twins were a loser organization with a loser mentality and the fans that still existed had resigned to that fact. If the sale actually happens, there's a real chance this organization can reshape its mindset and actually be a winning club with a winning mindset, because for years and years that hasn't existed.
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This is a fantastic map, thank you for sharing. I wish we had more data because, lets be honest, VividSeats isn't exactly anyone's primary source for tickets. But I actually used it a lot more this year than any of the competitors.
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QQ: Who was owner at that time?
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Yeah, what's the point in spending out $1.6B in order for 8% gains and minimal operating income. They're going to want to grow the business.
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This is completely irrelevant. Y'all are so afraid of relocation. The Twin Cities are a highly valued market. No ownership group is going to move from the Twin Cities to some objectively worse market by all metrics. And part of the reason you are afraid is because the previous evil owner convinced you of this. He told you all you sucked and that you were lucky to have a team and that he wanted to leave but you all suck so much that no one would buy it. And some of you bought it. The Twin Cities is great. The Twins are not moving. F*ck The Pohlads.
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This is just completely bogus to say when we all see what the Pohlads have done in 40 years with the franchise. Eloise is the only one that actually liked baseball, otherwise none of them even pretended to care about their personal or the Twins reputations in the community.
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It's mostly logic. With sports franchises so expensive, the billionaires willing to bid have to think they can improve the value of the franchise more than the other billionaire and more than just buying a PepsiCo distribution. Pohlads were just business people. The groups we've seen buying MLB franchises recently all seem to care about Baseball. The worst owners we see all tend to be the old family business people.
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Yeah, could be two years of messy transition. Look at the Mets. Steve Cohen came in 2021, and tried to do too much without understanding the industry and took until 3 years later until they had a competent baseball organization put together.
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He could move the team. That's what everyone was so afraid of when he bought it. Just like people are irrationally afraid of right now. This is GREAT news and I'm sorry some people can't celebrate this. We're getting rid of owners that have never cared about baseball. Twins can be the Padres. Twins can be the Cardinals. Twins can be the Rockies...uh, scratch that last one. (except they're still a much better organization that the Twins).
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Stockholm Syndrome in full effect. People were saying this exact same thing about Zygi and now everyone loves him.
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This is WAY better than the Twins getting into the playoffs. I had previously declared I was likely out as a Twins fan because the entire organization was rotten due to its terrible ownership. Well, now the Twins have the chance to completely change the culture of the organization, one that actually cares about winning. Lets f*cking go!
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Pohlad Family Greed Killed the 2024 Twins
NYCTK replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Nah man, I didn't ignore jack. Pohlads suck and the patriarch was a wicked man. Hope they're all miserable.
