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The further we get into Tom Pohlad's reign, the more favorably I look upon Joe (which still isn't good). The fire sale was entirely the right direction. You can argue over the individual trades, but that team sucked, was directionless and needed a reboot. The failures in the trades falls at the feet of the front office, not at all on Joe Pohlad. As for the payroll slashing, I don't think that was at all a Joe Pohlad decision. He was just the figurehead of the Pohlad family that dictated that to him, in my opinion. He was a bad public relations guy, but I don't care at all about that.
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Tom Pohlad took over control of the team he and his family had cut out from the knees, halted a rebuild in the middle of its execution to foolishly change course of direction, and then presented a bunch of flowery PR statements to win over rubes. It's almost entirely his fault. The other share of blame goes to his obscenely wealthy family members.
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Fellow Twins Fans, I'm Begging You ... Make Tom Pohlad Earn It
NYCTK commented on LastOnePicked's blog entry in Blog LastOnePicked
Whoa, you're forgetting the benevolence of our Pohlad overlords when they invested a small fortune into their organization at the trade deadline, bringing the Twins all the way up to the 23rd most expensive payroll in the league. Your lack of loyalty for our superiors has been noted and you will be reprimanded. -
The Pohlads suck so much they can't even sell a valuable asset for anywhere close to market price. With both the Padres and Angels selling for $3.9B, I find it hard believe the Twins aren't worth $2B+. Just sell, take the money, and let us all look upon the team with a modicum of hope for the first time in 34 years. End your reign of terror!
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That was his salary THIS year. He wasn't exactly great, but we should still expect to see him get a raise in arbitration. Spotrac estimates $9M, but even if it's something more like $7.5M, that's starting to get expensive for someone like him, and you can probably replace his production, which isn't nothing, for that cost. Meaning he's a non-tender candidate along with Bailey Ober. Lopez - Trade candidate once healthy Ryan - Trade candidate Bradley Abel Prielipp Rojas Ober - NT candidate Matthews Kremer - NT candidate Once you consider the potential transactions that you can argue SHOULD be made, you're not left with a very deep rotation Bradley Abel Prielipp Rojas Matthews ...and Pablo as he regains health. I think extending Pablo might be the best course of action.
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No. You either don't understand what I'm saying or don't understand what Appeal to Tradition is. I am afraid you are just not reading and comprehending what I'm writing. This is entirely not the case at hand. Maybe if you read those 7 paragraphs you would understand why your comment is faulty. I have seen no evidence that explains this widespread doomerism mentality over the sport of baseball. The Dodgers won back-to-back World Series, the first true dynasty since the late 90s Yankees. And even so, the sport is as healthy now as it's been in modern day. There is no severe crisis in Major League Baseball that necessitates the worker's union to relinquish the bargaining position they fought to hold 30 years ago. And until such crisis appears, the union is well within their rights to reject the owner's insistence on it.
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No, I said nothing of the sort. That a position has been held for generations does not mean that a position is held because it's been held for generations. I was pointing out that the position has been held, fought for, is unchanged, and MLB has offered no real explanation of a need for change. No you didn't. You proposed a hypothetical past any reasonable possible outcome in an effort to show that the MLBPA's position is damaging, but I would counter that it would just shows it's principled and unwavering. You may disagree with that principle. But once that bargaining chip is gone, it's gone for ever. And the players have their reasons for wanting to hold on to it. For example, in the likelihood that eventually that poison pill they'd now relinquished gets more and more restrictive in future negotiations. Not from the position of the MLBPA it isn't. They're being entirely transparent with their demands, and it's one thing: No Salary Cap. Any proposal that follows with a salary cap goes against their one condition in these negotiations and they are in their right, and completely rational, to dismiss it. As discussed previously, the MLBPA isn't really concerned about the opinion of the fans, as they are not at the negotiation table. Also irrelevant is the fact that other leagues have it.
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I think you fundamentally just don't understand what I'm arguing. That isn't even close to the argument I've made. I'm sorry if I'm articulating it poorly. If you want to ask me about my actual argument instead of what you think I'm saying, I'm happy to better communicate what I'm trying to say.
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I'm not even sure what you mean by that. I suppose I would agree with you that the fact that there's been no salary cap doesn't mean there can't be a salary cap, if that's what you're saying? But I'm coming at it from the position of the MLBPA. The lack of a salary cap and the insistence that there will not be one, and any proposal containing one is flatly rejected, that is not a fallacy. That's just the facts of the current negotiation. And until until the owners demonstrate a NEED for the salary cap, then the MLBPA are well within their right not to negotiate it.
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Fellow Twins Fans, I'm Begging You ... Make Tom Pohlad Earn It
NYCTK commented on LastOnePicked's blog entry in Blog LastOnePicked
Did Joe Pohlad make that blunder though? Or was it the Pohlad family ownership that forced that upon the Twins while Joe was the (feckless and media-untrained) figurehead? Could have easily been Tom in a boardroom demanding the payroll cut with Joe being outvoted. All the Pohlads suck is the only conclusion we can make. -
If your union had stated for many generations that you'll flatly refuse one specific condition and management came to the table with a proposal with that specific condition, your union would rightfully say no without further discussion on that proposal until they came to the table with a real proposal. Your union wouldn't negotiate the scale of that one poison pill condition. That would be tantamount to accepting the condition, in principle. If any other condition in the proposal requires a hard salary cap, your union wouldn't negotiate around that condition either. Instead of even trying to sell the necessity of benefit of a salary cap (because they're all easily dismissed) the owners have instead dedicated time and energy to selling the salary cap to the fans through social media and other targeted ads. This is why I keep referring to the owner's proposals as bad faith. I disagree, as do many fans, as does the near entirety of the MLBPA. The fact that the other big four sports leagues have a salary cap is completely irrelevant to the MLBPA and, therefore, irrelevant to this CBA negotiation. If the owners refuse to even offer anything commensurate with the MLBPA biggest bargaining chip, the MLBPA shouldn't even begin to discuss the removal of that bargaining chip.
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I don't view this as big an issue as you. The ability to use that as a prediction is pretty real, but more so because payroll tends to be a signal as much as it is a catalyst. I tend to view teams that aren't in the top half (or top 10) of payroll as unserious about contention. I even think that about the present day Brewers, even though their run of success has shown it's not required to still be a very good, sustained team. But their refusal to add a player like Pete Alonso, Cody Bellinger, or Alex Bregman - not because they can't afford them (they can) but because they insist on using their own system - I think this has hampered their ability. PLUS, your fun fact isn't even close to accurate. Did you ask Claude or something? The Florida Marlins won the year after the Angels (~20th), the White Sox won in 2005 (13th), Cardinals 2006 (11th), Philles '08 (12th), Cardinals '11 (11th), Royals (16th), Astros (18th), and finally the Braves '21 (12th). So, 8 of 25. But, if you're like me and you recognize these teams outside the top half largely aren't actually contending, then this doesn't look nearly as problematic. This next number is from an AI output so don't know precise accuracy, but about 22/50 world series teams this century weren't top 10 payrolls. Nearly half. I think it's too few data points to say there's a trend since the pandemic, but the last 4 participants all being higher payroll teams has elevated this fear far more than reality dictates.
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Fellow Twins Fans, I'm Begging You ... Make Tom Pohlad Earn It
NYCTK commented on LastOnePicked's blog entry in Blog LastOnePicked
I'm right there with you. Why anyone even beings to pretend the Pohald in charge is different than the last Pohald that was in charge, or the other Pohald that was in charge. Fact is, the Pohalds are the Problem. Not the singular problem, but their back-tracking and refusing to sell the Twins was significantly worse for the organization than when the Pohalds screwed the team and back-tracked and decided they needed better cashflows from their $1.5 billion asset because they needed to pay property taxes on their massive estates. Tom Pohlad sucks. And I'm willing to say he sucks significantly more than Joe Pohlad did. Joe at least liked baseball. -
You guys can try to pretend I'm not ALSO a Twins fan if that makes it easier for you to reject my opinion. You can pretend as though I don't want to see the Twins win the World Series, or pretend as if I didn't get home late from the bar on Friday night and turn on the Twins game so I could take in the debut of someone whom I believe will be the greatest Twin since Joe Mauer. As if I didn't watch Culpepper-Jenkins-Keaschall-Lee bat in succession and imagine their further development and the roles they'll play in the 2028, 2029, and even 2030 seasons. This is, frankly, a ridiculous assertion. This idea that the league is in precarious trouble because of the Dodgers is just a manufactured, nonexistent reality. Many have seemingly become so mad at the Pohlads (or other respective owners) and their multi-decade mismanagement of the organization and exploitation of the people of Hennepin County that they've bought into the lies and propaganda from those same owners. And, yes, that's exactly what you've done with that sentence. I'm cheering for the Brewers this playoffs, at current glance. As they are both the best team, and it kills the false narrative that small markets just can't win. You can. But you don't.
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The Future is Now for the Minnesota Twins
NYCTK replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I would agree when you're admitting you're in a rebuilding period, but those 2024 and 2025 Twins weren't being honest about the talent on their roster. They thought they were setting up to be contenders, and a one year veteran fill in is an appropriate deal in that context.- 67 replies
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The Future is Now for the Minnesota Twins
NYCTK replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Anyone that blames Santana or Bader for those teams stinking doesn't understand the sport. Those types of veterans are supplementary, not load bearing. Unfortunately Bader and Santana were supplementing really terrible rosters.- 67 replies
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The Future is Now for the Minnesota Twins
NYCTK replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think teams that rebuild are too hesitant or slow to supplement their rebuilt roster with veteran assistance. This actually includes the White Sox, looking at their roster they added Murakami and that basically just fell in their laps. Gotta recognize that window earlier and sell it to some incoming veterans.- 67 replies
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The Future is Now for the Minnesota Twins
NYCTK replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
We have this argument every off-season and every season those one year vets turn out to be good, and sometimes great, deals more often than they're not. Bader was a needle mover. Solano was a needle mover. Santana was a needle mover. Willi Castro was a big needle mover. Yes, I think signing someone like Jazz or Lowe would be great, especially since I'm less optimistic about Houston so feel no need to keep 2B warm for Culpepper. But even if they don't, there are still a lot of veterans available on cheap one year deals that can move the needle.- 67 replies
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The Future is Now for the Minnesota Twins
NYCTK replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Same. I was just thinking actually, a Chourio contract for Jenkins. 8 years, 90+ million? Lock it in. Culpepper you can consider. I'd still trade Joe Ryan in the off-season, extend Pablo while he's rehabbing, mainly cause he seems more willing to forego free agency. I'd happily resign Jeffers too, and a QO penalty on him could help facilitate that. Other than them, there's not really any internal players I'm concerned about. It was a bit of stream of consciousness, pointing out I'm optimistic about the future, but unfortunately looking at a weaker class so that may not be the best decision. Even so. There's plenty of pieces available to still improve the team. And if and when they sign some I'm sure there will be the same people whining here about how the Twins rely too much on veterans.- 67 replies
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The Future is Now for the Minnesota Twins
NYCTK replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It was very cool getting home last night and throwing on the game to see Culpepper, Jenkins, Keaschall and Lee bat in succession. It finally feels like this organization has direction. Fingers crossed they can add Lackey to that group in late 2027 and that looks like a solid core of players. They should spend out like $80 million in additional player contracts next season, because the window is once again open. Unfortunately it's a pretty weak free agency class.- 67 replies
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The owners came out with yet another terrible bad faith offer. They both want to cap the players earning potential and restrict the window players can sign contracts. And yet a bunch of fans will buy the propaganda that their offers are good because other leagues have them and that makes it more exciting.
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Plenty of players have waived NTC after saying they didn't want to be traded. Many have actually invoked it too. To think that Buxton would for sure reject any trade is no less ridiculous than suggesting he'd for sure waive it. I can absolutely imagine a GM telling him they were rebuilding and wanted to respect his remaining years of productivity and allow him to leave. I can imagine it because I've seen it happen with different players!
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Huh, I think I just realized I've never seen the Twins at home while Buxton has been healthy. Only seeing 2 PH ABs...which he's not done well. This is a bit ridiculous comparing a ten year history of injuries against a player who has lost significant time for the first time this season due to injuries.
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And a very obvious replacement in AAA that literally everyone is yelling to call up. Yeah, I don't think Tom Pohlad tackled Zoll as he was attempting to put Buxton back on the IL to stop him from doing so. But I also think it's kind of the CEO's job to have, at least, a weekly conversation about the baseball operations of the baseball organization and question the decisions that he's delegated. If it's been obvious to everyone here that Buxton isn't helping the team playing injured, and if it's obvious to everyone here that Jenkins should currently be starting at the major league level, then it should be obvious to Mr Pohlad too. And the fact that it's been a month of this nonsense tells everyone everything they need to know.

