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Both of these players were on the opening day roster. That's why no one should be surprised how this season went.
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Checking Tankathon every week now to see how badly the Twins have to play to increase their lottery odds.
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After two consecutive trade deadlines (and the offseason between) of doing nothing to either improve the roster or the farm system, the organization was in rough shape. Imagine we went back in time and Falvey had the balls to make some moves. Trading Brooks Lee for Max Scherzer? Bringing in Josh Bell for Austin Martin and Kyle Farmer? Mark Canha for Pierson Ohl? Those are all approximate comps for what they were sold for. Would the Twins Organization really miss those pieces if those additions helped the team in the postseason? Or, let's go back and think how this team would look if they were more proactive in selling soon to be free agents in those years. Selling Sonny Gray for two comp level prospects? Selling Max Kepler for a prospect? Michael A Taylor could bring a lottery ticket. Santana last year? Could these actions have brought in a few interesting athletes that could have supplemented who they considered their core? These seem like incremental things but it compounds and not doing anything for three straight windows is just sad. Look at the Padres. They decided they have the star power and want to repeatedly sell off their farm in order to keep pressing for the championship. They haven't gotten there yet but the fans love that team and the GM as a result. Will it be a rough few years when the bill comes due for constantly selling the future? Maybe. But maybe not. Falvey went above what I thought he would, but I applaud him for finally doing something. (but he should still be fired)
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Don't think this is necessarily the reason, but there are benefits to having them retain prospect status with respects to the draft. For example, if I understand correctly, if Luke Keaschall fails to exceed 130 PAs this season but then starts the year on the 26 man roster next year and stays with the big league club all season, then the Twins would receive an additional draft pick between the 1st and 2nd round? I could be wrong on that. But there's some (reverse) incentives like that.
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They can still resign them if they really wanted. I don't fully agree. But I discussed why so we can agree to disagree there. Their GM is very agrresive in this current window. They are at or near the end of a very competitive window and they and their fans have no real interest in any prospects that aren't immediately potential superstars. Yes, Abel has a good chance of being Ober but no real shot of being Ryan. Tait is interesting because he could develop into one, but that's in 3+ years. The Phillies have a very good core of players and a real chance to win the World Series this season. This is textbook way to bolster a bullpen on a competitor. Patch it together as best you can and then pounce for reinforcements when you're ready to push in some chips and go for it. We saw three teams build "super bullpens" this trade deadline in the Phillies, Mets, and Yankees. And if you ask baseball people how much they paid to put them together the answer will be fair, but not a ton. Simple fact is Twins have no reason for a good closer right now. Nor next season. And the fickle nature of relievers means betting on them for 3 years is a fool's bet.
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I'm optimistic that 2026 is analogous to 2000, which means it's going to be rough but a lot of pieces starting to fall in place. The next year playing fun exciting baseball that brings the fans back. Unfortunately, that means 2028 is the actual year we should probably expect any level of success, but I'm being optimistic and looking towards 2027!
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It doesn't raise eyebrows for me in the slightest. 5 players traded were gone at the end of the season regardless. I think Falvey did a pretty poor job of getting returns for these players but the Willi and Bader trades did bring in some talent. Correa, as discussed has some real baseball benefits to it. He was expensive, and that contract was really bad. So the question is about 4 relievers under control. And the simple fact is baseball executives do not value bullpen arms very highly. And it's easy to see why. Danny Coulombe (perhaps the most underrated RP in all of baseball) was signed for 3M and traded for next to nothing. RP, even the best RP, are just failed starters. Baseball execs think they're able to take their AAAA failed starters and turn them into good relievers, and they're often right.
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I just don't buy the prevailing idea now that these weren't baseball decisions. As many have pointed out, if it was financially driven then trading Varland makes no sense. That was a baseball decision. You don't have to agree with it, but there is solid roster construction baseball driven reasoning behind it. Same with Correa. That while working out financially, is a baseball decision. For whatever reason his tenure just didn't work out. He was a pretty good player with the Twins, but starting to look like a liability, both financially and on the field. Could he have stuck around and been a veteran presence like see with Baez in Detroit? Maybe. But we also know he was campaigning to take Royces position in the background because even he knew he wasn't going to be a very good SS going forward. He might still be a 115 OPS+ guy for the remainder of his contract but as a 3B that runs poorly, is that really that valuable for a team doing a reset?
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The Fans on here clamoring for C depth aren't wrong. Next season's catching is going to be the biggest challenge. Jeffers probably not worth a Qualifying Offer and won't do an extension so you have to decide are you going to trade him in the off-season? Are you going to try to compete and then have the option to trade him mid season if things don't go well (which they won't). And with no real options in AAA, that leaves you with TWO catchers to replace for the '27 season. You have two pretty decent prospects but they're both in A+ and shouldn't be counted on any earlier than 2028. So what's the plan to fill that hole in 2027, the year I expect the Twins to be competitive?
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I wouldn't say dismal. 4.70 ERA is not* what you hope to see, disappointing, but dismal? I'm very optimistic about him. Not as high as Joe Ryan, but higher than Ober or anyone else. He's comfortably the third best starter next season imo (barring further sell off). But I'm mostly poking fun at you putting Taj in quotes. That's why I put a short response in quotes. BTW you beat me to the comment about not caring about Falvey. We're on the same wavelength there.
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It does make me chuckle the way people parse manager or front office comments. The right sizing one, obviously worthy of scorn because it actually meant something. But corporate speak? Who cares. That email "he" sent out? Anyone getting mad about it is mad for the wrong reasons. He didn't even write it. Their comms team did and he signed off on it. This is nice and all, but I don't care if my teams GM is friendly with some old guys in a training facility. He can be the world's biggest *******, and coldness might actually help in the job, I don't care. Falvey sucks because he did a terrible job building a major league organization, top to bottom, not because you can't imagine him shooting the **** with 70 year-old spectators.
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This just is a misunderstanding of what they got in return. You can be disappointed they murdered their bullpen, I get that, but the returns they got on the last minute deals were pretty good, fair returns. Taj and Kendry are good pieces. Roden is a fine OF. That's a good return for bullpen arms. But be prepared to see Griffin Jax be used as a starter in Tampa and really become a valuable player.
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Boston clearly has terrible leadership. Devers wasn't opposed to playing 1B as seen by him playing there in San Francisco, but Boston clearly pissed him off in a big way in they way they went about it. Devers was also wrong to complain publicly. Demonstrates lack of being a team player, someone that's clearly not a leader. And now he's sucked in San Francisco and that team just gave up on their season. Way more players are willing to move around positions than you think. The only ones that seem to put up a stink are the players that have always been THE guy, and often have hard times coming to terms with the fact that they're no longer the same player they used to be.
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Don't believe a single word that comes out of Correa's mouth. He's a Politiker. A PR savant. There's not a chance in the world he wouldn't have envoked his no trade clause to go play with the Yankees for example. He was very obviously in Minnesota only for a paycheck, after two teams took a look at his medicals and threw him out the door. And I don't blame him for it, but this idea that he came here to WIN is very obviously just BS. Not to mention this idea of him as a leader, while in the background asking leadership to move the 3B? Maybe now we know why he and Royce had words for each other through the media late last season. Maybe Correa was always overrated as the "clubhouse leader".
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The Minnesota Twins Finally Picked a Lane
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25th highest Win Percentage Added, 27th in Left on base percentage, 22nd in ERA, 18th in WHIP. Those kinds of results.- 301 replies
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The Minnesota Twins Finally Picked a Lane
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I don't like Falvey at all. I've wanted him fired for at least a year.- 301 replies
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The Minnesota Twins Finally Picked a Lane
NYCTK replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Both Abel and Bradley already have exposure. And so maybe it is that they want to work with them in a much less public forum before they bring them up. I see nothing wrong with that.- 301 replies
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