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Dealing Ryan? Let’s look back at the Berrios deal.
P Meyer commented on jorgenswest's blog entry in Blog jorgenswest
This is a fair perspective, but I think this team kinda is what it is with Joe Ryan for the next two seasons. The Twins likely aren't going increase payroll in 2026 or 2027. Unless they can find a way to ship Correa, they aren't going to have payroll flexibility to add players who should have a large impact. Because of these things, they don't seem to financially be in a spot to re-sign Ryan after 2027. So, if the idea is deep playoff run or bust, trading Ryan appears to be the best path to getting there as long as Correa is on the books. I hate getting rid of our best players but if we can't keep them, and the best hope for an increase in talent is at AA and AAA, 2026 and 2027 aren't likely going to produce a contender.- 30 comments
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Dealing Ryan? Let’s look back at the Berrios deal.
P Meyer commented on jorgenswest's blog entry in Blog jorgenswest
Slight disagreement with this. It only makes sense to trade Ryan if you are not committed to re-signing him when his contract expires (or extending him prior) and you get significant compensation back. Selling high on an asset when you know you aren't going to keep it long term does not equal "tearing it down". If the Twins FO feels like payroll will not permit re-signing Joe then trading him at a peak is the most prudent move. It's a good process and is up to your organization to stick the landing by taking those pieces and making them collectively better.- 30 comments
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I disagree. I think you can have an owner with a medium payroll expectation, willingness to invest in other parts of the organization, and letting the people they hire work into the role. A lot of what Wilf has done for the Vikings has been to improve the ancillary areas of the franchise to help the players they have maximize their opportunities. An owner who is willing to have a payroll of 167 mil (around 15th highest) but wants to build through the minors and ensure his players get high level preventative and rehabilitative treatment is very applicable. The Dodgers owner didn't JUST spend more on players. He also spent more on infrastructure. I don't need an owner to spend the most. I need one who can find and maintain a top front office, top scouting and development staff, top coaching, top facilities, and then commit to a mid range payroll unless a situation arises where they can go all in.
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Week in Review: Bucking Into The Break
P Meyer replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I agree that moving on from France is not tossing away the season. These are the low cost players you sign in the offseason to hopefully contribute and if they don't pan out, just move on. Columbe and Castro are also UFA at the end of the year. Why not move them if you can get something meaningful for them? They are a little different than France despite also being UFAs. Dumping Correa for nothing is about gaining financial flexibility and realizing he was signed under a different payroll philosophy. Moving on from players like Joe Ryan, Duran, Jax, or whomever else is about selling high, not selling to sell. It seems like all of these players tend to get wrapped up into same "selling" convo despite having very different reasons the organization would move them.- 43 replies
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The "right move" is to trade Joe Ryan. Selling high on any asset is rarely a bad move. It is unrealistic to think this iteration of the Twins will be competing in high level playoff series where having two dominant starting pitchers is so critical. The Twins are realistically 2 years away from their higher level prospects being able to contribute at the MLB level which would give the roster the influx of talent it needs. FA is not a viable options for the Twins to do this. A good "build through the minors" organization would be able to turn Ryan into multiple contributors over the next few years, The issue is (as others have said) is the Twins have yet to prove they are able to execute this type of plan. Larnach and Lewis are the latest examples of the system producing players who were once thought of as key parts of the future only to see them sputter at the MLB level. So the reality of turning Ryan into multiple, lesser players is not very appealing.
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In the unlikely scenario they trade Correa I don't think the return for the Twins is players, it's in payroll flexibility. They would have to give Correa away to a team that cares less about the impact of adding his contract. If I am the Twins, I would give him away if it meant an ability to retain the few high performing players we have. I liked the move when the Twins did it, but it didn't work to the highest degree, and now he is a sunk cost.
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You are correct the Twins have a few players to build around, but the question is do they have the money to keep them while building the roster. As Riverbrian said, if you have to cut loose multiple players to afford Ryan's arb raise, is that really building the roster? I'm not advocating for the Twins penny pinching, but it is a real thing.
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I agree. I have not seen the ability of this franchise to transition top prospects from the minor league system into productive players at the MLB level. Until they do that, selling for a bevy of picks is not a viable strategy. Now, if trading Ryan nets you young, productive, and cost controlled MLB players, it needs to be considered. That said, it's not like the Twins are stocked with dominant young pitching.
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Week in Review: Something to Build On
P Meyer replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If his issue is changing positions mid year, ok, waiting until the offseason is not the biggest issue. That said, the Twins should not prioritize playing him at 3B over Brooks Lee when Luke Keaschall comes back unless Keaschall falls back down to earth (very possible). Twins need to play the players who are producing now and create a competitive environment.- 36 replies
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Week in Review: Something to Build On
P Meyer replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Not necessarily, but I don't know what it would hurt if he started practicing at 1B. You can DH him in the rest of a bleh year. How much worse could it impact his hitting?- 36 replies
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Week in Review: Something to Build On
P Meyer replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Honest question, what are the valid reasons the Twins should not move Royce Lewis to 1B? I used to believe it was his athleticism, but that seems to be gone. Our system seems to have more options at 2B and 3B than 1B for the near future, and the outfield also has several options. He would have to learn the position, but outside of that, why not?- 36 replies
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Week in Review: Something to Build On
P Meyer replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If the idea is the bat your best players higher in the lineup so they get more at bats...Lee needs to be a lot higher. Correa's contract is already an albatross. You can't have a team that is crunching payroll paying a guy to not produce. His contract is about the same as Pablo Lopez and Byron Buxton's combined. If the Twins were smart, they would find a way to unload him because I doubt he is going to get better over the next three seasons, all of which he is slated to make over 30 mil. Good news, his vested options are looking like they will be a stretch. His easiest 2029 option is based on him getting 575 plate appearances in 2028. At this rate, that doesn't look likely.- 36 replies
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There are just other options to play Lewis. At this point his health has been inconsistent. His hitting has been inconsistent. He is just no longer a priority to consistently play on the left side of the infield. Maybe he DHs (a lot) as they try to transition him to another position, or he just only plays 3B when Correa or Brooks sits and then DHs when they don't. Lots of options to try to get Lewis right without impacting Brooks IMO.
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I don't see any reason you would play Lewis over Brooks
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Week in Review: Signs of Progress
P Meyer replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Good news is that Brooks Lee seems to have made the most of his opportunity. I like him at 3B more than Royce at this point. Personally, I think the Royce Lewis time in the left side of the infield has passed. Time to find a new direction with him.- 16 replies
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Falvey: Minnesota Twins Are Not Focused On Selling
P Meyer replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I agree with this. I don't expect to see a top end player traded from the Twins, but some of the fringier players have some value with more competitive teams. Foolish to not get what you can for that group. -
Correa being a financial albatross due to his health and inability to produce to his contract offensively AS WE AS being the best option the Twins have at SS can both be true I guess. Personally, I think the Twins need to focus on what develops their young players best, and let the overpaid vet deal with that. Because of his contract, the Twins aren't going to start spending on reinforcements so their only hope is to develop the players they have.
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Week in Review: Signs of Progress
P Meyer replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Add Royce Lewis to the list of Twins top prospects who have regressed once they spent time with the major league club. For whatever reason, the "build through farm system" strat seems to fail when you are unable to develop those prospects at the pro level.- 16 replies
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Carlos Correa Trade Buzz Is Heating Up
P Meyer replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Why the Twins Might Need to Trade Carlos Correa
P Meyer replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I don't know that trading your most marketable player (or one of) is a great way to maximize the value of the sale of the team. A future owner will either view Correa as a marketable player to build around or a potential trade piece, but both of those require him to be on the roster when he/she/they buy.

