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Laz Diaz and Brian O'Nora are retiring after the season.

Agree. That was meant more for @Church of Kreidler to express his concern that he hopes to see Kreidler on Sunday. Bad news for him since Soriano is a RHP. Too bad as Gray really shouldn't be out there.

If you're throwing darts, they've been hitting 1's and 3's instead of 18's, 19s and 20s. Does Nance hit those numbers? No, but does Nance hit 12s-15s instead of 3's and 5's. Yes.

I've got bad news for you for Sunday.

At least we are having a civilized conversation over here, unlike over at Jays Centre. I checked over there to see the other side of this trade. Some just want to sell outright and there's a few comments over there that would have been given warnings and/or timeouts here. Just wanted to point out the thoughtfulness of our community.

I thought the goal from Zoll during trade season was to improve the bullpen? We are not trading for relief help like Chapman or any of the high-end relievers which would have to give up a bunch of trade value. These trades are the type that we need to improve the floor. The hope is that Nance is better than the likes of Adams, Orze, Rojas, Rogers, or Funderburk. The likely corresponding move would be to move Adams. Is Nance all of a sudden going to elevate the bullpen to a shut-down pen? Not likely. Is Nance not going to cost us games like some of the others on the roster? More likely than not.

Let's do the exercise pretending there is an actual plan to re-sign Jeffers to a FA contract. First, you should have tried to do this last offseason if you are actually serious about trying to sign him to an extension. Below is the list of the current highest paid catchers with their current contracts. If you don't see a contract, it means they are still under arbitration. Jeffers isn't worth the top 3, and a new contract is likely in the range between the lines (Salvy and William Conteras). The current QO is $22.025 million. For the people who want the QO, you're asking the Twins to pay nearly $5 million OVER the highest paid catcher in MLB. Doing a QO makes no sense for a catcher. This seems absurd for a catcher all for the privilege to get a draft pick in either at the end of the 1st round or the end of the 2nd in which you will have to wait 2-5 years to see any results for. Our drafting and developing hasn't had the best track record in the last decade or so. Also, if you thought that we had no bullpen help now, take away another $5 million and see how our bullpen will be next year. My theory would be to try to entice him with a 3/$42M or a 4/$50. You are overpaying in AAV for fewer years as an honest contract would be near Murphy and Kirk. I still think that if you were serious about bringing him back, you would have already tried to re-sign him. All of this to say that they should probably trade him for the best offer they can find provided they are not giving him away.

I think you misconstrued my thought process. In no way do I think this is a good idea. The Twins are competing for a playoff spot. We need Ryan for every out he can give us. I am just thinking out loud on why they wouldn't have pitched Paredes today since this would have been his scheduled day to pitch. If it did happen, Ryan would have 10 days off (minus a short outing in the ASG). If you are not considering trading him, it is a thought process to ensure he is healthy for the second half. Again, I wouldn't do it, but it is a discussion item.

I agree. That is a head scratcher for me. I had expected that he would come in today following Ober since they didn't use him yesterday following Prielipp. I guess he comes in this weekend for a short start. Would the Twins be crazy enough to give Joe Ryan a start off on Saturday and have Paredes make the start in his place? That gives Ryan extra rest prior to the ASG since I would expect him to pitch in that game.

We can at least have another segment for next year called "Denard Span says the darndest things!"

That ball may land in Busan in about 16 hours.

I'll say this again. It's easy to complain about a player's performance and say he needs to be DFA'd, sent down, or somehow shot into the sun. It's harder to come up with a reasonable solution to the problem. The only relief of any known quantity down in AAA is Bowman and he just arrived back in St. Paul. We can complain about Shelton's choices of bullpen arms or the FO not signing any bullpen help. Sometimes, we just have to accept our fate and try to root them forward.

I'm not sure he trusts his command yet. His stuff is so filthy that he can get swings and misses in AAA without having to adjust his approach. Cleveland has typically been a very patient hitting team and Rojas's current stuff doesn't translate to a patient approach. He will have to learn.

Yes. Losing because we had no hope is better than watching hope go by and not snatching it. Edit: It's the hitter's version of the bullpen blowing leads.

Here's a list of the moves today. Ober took the extra spot and Rojas is replacing Prielipp. Interesting to see if we see Paredes or Rojas making the starts for Prielipp.

I'll try to summarize all of the comments I have made about this the last couple of days in this thread. 1. I like this as a change of pace and, as @Riverbrian has pointed out, is the wave of the future and we need to embrace it if we want viewership to continue to rise, especially for the Twins are depending on MLB.TV for their production and distribution. As people have developed fatigue for the number of streaming services which they have to pay for, the ability to continually make a production more entertaining is a must. 2. The goal would be to tighten it up, so it is closer to the ManningCast that we see on Monday Night Football. A bit more analysis would really elevate this broadcast, such as a better explanation for why Lee was picked off 3rd last night would have helped. 3. Wednesday's broadcast was already an improvement over Tuesday's as they weren't all in the booth at the same time for much of the game. The idea of getting to have analysts in different parts of the stadium was a great experience to watch and listen to how they see the game from various parts of the ballpark. 4. We got to see first-hand the outsized influence that Plouffe has on the organization. His antic of handing out $20's got Tom Pohlad out of his suite to sit down with both Plouffe and Span in the corners and interact with fans during the game. I challenged this thread to find me another front-facing owner who has done this, in any sport, in the last five years. So far, I have not received a response on this one yet. This isn't to defend the Pohlads in what they have done to this team, just pointing out that he is willing to step down from his ivory tower, even for a moment, to interact with fans. I also believe Plouffe is the only person in the Twins organization with a pulse on the fanbase due to his position with Jomboy Media. Ultimately, this will be a win for future viewership. I would like to see Molitor in the booth for one of the games, maybe not all of them. I understand the concern of toning down the jocularity as they would defer to him as an expert. I think the broadcast would win though as we would get to hear from both a manager's perspective as well as a player. I think hearing from what the manager expects in a situation vs what the player is experiencing would be a great insight to the broadcast. There are two series which this broadcast setup would be perfect for: this series in front of the Twins HOF weekend and the upcoming Player's weekend, provided the Twins are at home.

I believe you're right about this becoming the wave of the future. Their ultimate goal would be closer to the ManningCast on Monday Night Football. A bit better mix of goofing off and deep dive analysis would make this a great broadcast. For example, a better explanation with video on why Lee managed to get himself picked off of 3rd or Keaschall's route running in CF for his first game back would have really helped. I hope they continue to tweak on it and maybe bring it back later in the season. Just thought of a tweak that I think could make this entire idea really stand out. Have Molitor in the booth as part of the all-analyst team. Having a former manager and coach in the booth would really help explain what is expected from the players as well as the player's experience of what they are feeling out there from the remaining former players in the booth.

Good thing Lewis isn't too good to go to his home!

Why did Lewis stop running? Should he be on 3rd right now? There's two outs.

Keaschall with a nice play in the OF. I know it's probably an expected play. But when it's your first night out there, any play can be an adventure. Now we need to walk this off!

Looks like the only think you're missing there is a mini snowdrift.

Now 2-8 with RISP and only one of those hits produced a run. Gomez is coming in the game to hold it. Hopefully we can give him a win!

Twins currently 2-7 in RISP. Only one actually scored a run.

Thank you DeLauter for giving up on that ball! Wasn't all that close to the line.

If it was closer to Sampson's length of hair, he may have been able to knock down that hit back up the middle with his hair.