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Correa: What If The Giants And Mets Were Right?
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Correa: What If The Giants And Mets Were Right?
Hawkeye Bean Counter replied to strumdatjag's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
If its chronic, don't you think it would be in the same foot? Since it is not, and not as severe as last year, Im not too worried about. Looks like a way to get correa a good rest to go into the 2nd half of the season. -
Whatever you are good at, you need to capitalize on it. Currently the Twins have a pretty good method to their madness and have been pretty successful with their strategy. I saw where they said our farm was the 3rd rated. My guess is that is with Brooks Lee still included. Now we didn't gain any huge prospect like last year. But a few of these guys will likely do well. Right now we are producing enough pitching prospects. Some years it will be like last year where 75% of the picks were pitchers, otherwise the Twins have been pretty close to 50/50 most years.
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Looking at it after today, pretty clear they were trying to get some more money from early picks in day 2. Means they paid extra for Hill and probably Amick. That is ok. I would rather get 4 solid prospects and honestly that is what this looks like. The rest taken in day 2 still look like decent prospects but definitely some savings occurring there. Solid draft, nothing spectacular like last year, but solid none the less.
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Great post. I mentioned pop up prospect as not on any current top list, but yes he has been a very solid hitter over his college career, where he really improved this year was a big jump in power. If he really can be a solid catcher my guess is the Twins will give him that chance, even with picking 2 others. They love positional flexibility. Will be interesting to watch his development. As I stated his stats were just as good as the other 2 FSU players taken in the first round.
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Yep, for some reason looked at the wrong statistic.
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Likely has 1 elite pitch they want to build around, and likely increase velocity.
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In genenral we usually start going hot and heavy on pitchers starting around the 7th round. I would guess you will see several. Usually pitchers in the 7th round to 15th round is where we have found our best under the radar pitching prospects in the last several years.
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Another outfield with high OPS, 1000+ this year, senior sign. They are definitely trying to find some money while still taking some decent hitting prospects. Drafted in the 10th round last year, decided to come back.
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Maybe a little, but those stats and the performance in the college world series dictate otherwise. Had 2nd most homeruns on team, behind Tibbs and ahead of Cam Smith. Pretty good company.
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Honestly we had a lot of top end hitting talent in the minors, but really didn't have enough hitting prospects overall in the minors due to going extremely heavy on pitching prospects last year, which is why we have had to supplement with a lot of independent league hitters this year. I would guess we are just trying to restock the hitters in these rounds before we go with the regular pitching heavy draft to end the rest of the draft. We may be trying to find money but Jaime Ferrer, looks again like a player that had a pop up year at Florida State, 1.083 OPS and 22 HR. We tend to gravitate to these players hoping they are being underrated and have figured something out. Rather than going for the player that has had a down year. It looks like a reasonable pick. There may be more hitters in this draft that what the prognosticators had stated.
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Actually sounds more athletic, stated as a good hit tool, but similar to Cavaco limited in exposure due to injuries so the hit tool may be a little more questionable and may look good due to small sample size. Even still, this organization has seemed to be very right when they have taken a relatively higher pick on a Catcher. He looks like he has a chance to be a very good ball player.
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Curious if he gave any hints about their bonus situation, whether under, over or flat on their bonus situation
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The batting quality falls off a cliff after the top 60 prospects, not that you can't find someone to succeed but will be lower probabilities than normal. I am still expecting 1 to 2 more high contact hitters, similar to Harry like player taken last year. Also a catcher prospect or 2 at some point as they took none last year.
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This issue was he was not picked in the first 2 rounds. So if it was leverage, he would need a massive overpay. I hope this is true and the Twins have a deal in place with him or another team. Otherwise he would likely have no leverage at this point due to the decreased bonus allotment for each pick.
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The issue with Oakie is he really wants to be a Hawkeye. So the only way this works is a large overpay. I don't see us likely having enough money to pull this off. I agree if we were able to get Oakie this would likely be a slam dunk draft, 3 solid hitters, and 2 high upside high school pitchers. I just don't see this coming to fruition. The real question is how much bonus money do the Twins have remaining for overslot players in the remaining rounds. I do think we will take 1-2 catchers in this draft. The Twins have historically punted this position so I will be curious if they spend any capital on this position that is one of the few positions that was considered deep in this draft class. Otherwise yes, I do agree this will likely be a heavy pitching next 2 days in the draft. The Twins still have 2 opportunities to draft players fror the Hawkeyes, they would be Marcus Morgan and Cade Obermueller. They both have above average stuff and would be very similar to Langenberg. Would both likely be overpays as they likely may be willing to come back to try to improve their draft stock.
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LOL the statement should have been 4 2nd rounders. As to today, the real question is what is the money situation. Did they underslot the first 2 picks. Have they used up extra money on the last 2 picks. Do they have more money to try to get 1-2 more overslot players today, or do they have to go cheap? Lot of questions. Solid draft so far but not an obvious win per say in the draft so far.
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I am firmly of the belief they believe players are currency. They think these 2 players are the safest bets to succeed given their hit tools, and can either become trade chips or help the big league team. Based on their previous history I cannot disagree, my guess is they will both do very well. As to Brecht I was a huge proponent. Even still I was expecting him to drop. But not to 38. Tells me more issues with either ability to pitch with more control or drive to be great. That is the one thing I was curious about, and had gotten some tea leaves. That would have been insight Langenberg could have given. Someone said this draft feels like we got 4 2nd rounders. I would say Culpepper is firmly a 1st rounder based on almost draft rankings, but yes we ended up with 3 other players who were likely top 50 type players. In a draft where there is minimal difference between the top 20 and top 60 players, I am more than fine allocating the money to get the best 4 players you can get.
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The most memorable is what the Rangers did 2022. They drafted both Kumar Rocker in the 1st and Porter in the 4th. They had no 2nd or 3rd round draft choices, so dumped almost all bonus money into those 2 players, and negotiated lower on Rocker to get Porter as well. The 2019 is the most memorable for the Twins. As they were to give a much larger bonus to Will Holland in the 5th and Julien in the 17th for 3rd round money.
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My guess is on pretty reasonable path to AA, .400 OBP in A ball right now, if contact improves a bit is in high A by end of season. Very reasonable path, if he doesn't but still looks solid nothing wrong with that either, In either case looks very very good. very few players at his age can make A ball to either doing very well or beginning to dominate.
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He crushed in A ball last year. Right now contact just a tad off, but OBP exploding to almost .400, even with a week start. Watch the bat start to crush again shortly. He still looks like an elite prospect. No need to rush him, but if dominating a level for a month or two move him up. If he is crushing AA by age 20 to 21 really got something there.
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Honestly pretty decent outing against a good team, just ran into a long inning and they decided to shut him down. He can learn from it. We got a 3 headed monster from last year in Matthews, Morris, and Lewis who is starting to get back on track. There are more from last years class doing well, but all 3 of those look legit good.
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The Saints bats have really cooled after losing several players for a variety of reasons. Lee and Wallner both called up. Tony Kemp opted to go elsewhere. Lastly, I am surprised that this hasn't been discussed more A. his success B. Losing him likely for the rest of the season to injury - Will Holland. Will Holland has always been one that has had questionable hitting skills, but he has been making a ton of contact this year. We were at the Iowa Cubs game a week and a half a go when he got injured. Started raining (should have probably been delayed) ball went over his head hit the wall and bounced back, he sprinted to the wall realized going over his head tried to push off the warning track, jumped up a little and fell in pile. Really thought it was an ACL. I saw somewhere where it stated a Tibia fracture, but also seen hamstring pull and otherwise haven't heard an update as to what the injury was. As an aside, talked to Chris Williams before the game, he signed my sons ball, talked about how good the team was playing at the time. Told him he would get back on track. He said he appreciated it, would keep working at it. Hit a home run that night and been on a pretty good run since then. As to the minor leagues, you have lots and lots of prospects performing well. This is the best I have seen the FCL and DSL play, and each has 2-3 really solid prospects. Even after promoting Lee and Langenberg (who are both doing well in A+ ball), The remaining rookie pitchers in A ball are starting to figure it out. Still some decent prospects want to keep an eye on. Bengard and Santos are both performing very well. Bragg had before injury. Still waiting to see if Hall, Pasqualotto or Dunn can really turn the corner. Charlee Soto, is doing pretty darn well for an 18 year old, becoming more affective. Needs to bring down the whip some, 1.2 to 1.4, and with his strike out stuff would be pretty dominate. So far the walks aren't the issue its the hits. Beyond that this is going to long, you have bats and pitching prospects up and down the system. Things are looking very very well as an organization. Hope they can land a very good draft as well here in the next week.
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