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Everything posted by Rod Carews Birthday
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I'm willing to hope you are correct. I'm just not willing to hold my breath. The 2026 bullpen will likely be a trainwreck.
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- zebby matthews
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I don’t think so. If it were that easy, then Alcala, Moran, Henriquez, et al would be pitching out of the bullpen for the Twins right now. IMHO the Twins will be pretty fortunate to “create” one solid high-leverage relief arm per year. Add in a little bit of luck and it still takes a long time. In many ways, this is my biggest gripe with the bullpen tear down. I was fine trading two, or maybe even three if you get bowled over with an offer, but taking away every high leverage arm at the same time seems foolish to me. There is now no foundation from which to build.
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I think that the answer to the question in the title is absolutely yes. What is unknown, however, is how long it will take to do that. They will obviously sign a few free agents for the bullpen over the winter, but that is unlikely to provide much help in a building project. Those arms are more about filling in the gaps for low leverage situations. As.a practical matter, the Twins have produced one new successful reliever per year by converting a starting pitcher. That process usually has taken a couple of years (unless your last name is Varland) to fully come to fruition. So, assuming excellent success of one a year, plus another bonus one if we’re lucky, it will take two years to come up with three really good bullpen arms. Add in a lucky signing or two (Stewart, Colombe), and you could probably have five or six higher leverage arms in three or four years. That’s if everything breaks well — but there are a whole lot of growing pains in the meantime. I have a feeling that fan patience will wear pretty thin by that point.
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Yes. But at the moment Lee is effectively showing us nothing. Maybe the thirty year old journeyman can plug the hole temporarily. Playing time for him becomes more critical the longer Lee scuffles. The real question (in both cases actually) is is there anything there.
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You can't replace someone with no one, and so far, that's what Brooks Lee has been on the offensive side (worse than Eddie Julien actually). At this point, Ryan Fitzgerald deserves a look as much as Lee. I agree that clearing out that contract was not necessarily a bad move, but it also cost the team $30M+ (for no player) to do so. It's a benefit that is not without a cost.
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I’m in total agreement on this. If you are trying to build for the next window, it makes sense to have a top notch starting pitcher as a veteran left over from the previous team. I think they would be well served by having either Pablo or Ryan stick around. I know people are salivating over what they think he would return in trade, but I would argue that Joe Ryan is also that valuable to the Twins as the leader of the next strong rotation.
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“He has a solid floor” That’s a scary statement to me. It’s as Charles Barkley says when someone has a great personality. It means they’re ugly. That overstates it a little, but someone at the point of being drafted in the first round should really only have superlatives in his description. I’m hopeful that between Culpepper and Houston, the future shortstop is in the fold, but they both have plenty left to prove.
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Lee is going to need to be an outstanding defender in order to be useful. Right now his career numbers are much lower than Eddie Julien’s, who we have bounced up and down to St. Paul, and who most consider unplayable (partly due to defense). When he was drafted, he was sold as maybe not having as high of a ceiling as others, but his floor was high and solid, they said. He’s downstairs looking up at the floor of being a serviceable ML baseball player right now. Could he turn it around? Maybe, but I’m not super optimistic. I think that there is no other player for whom the rest of the season is as critical as Brooks Lee. This is his audition, and I think it is make or break. On a related note, finding out who Royce Lewis is going to be would be nice as well. I think it is far from certain that he will be a star at this point.
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I think that this was likely a factor as well. Saving cash in other areas may have made that trade happen.
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Try as you might, it’s pretty much impossible to grade trades like this in the moment. Right now people are either using it to reinforce their preconceived narrative (“These players suck, sell them all” or “These trades are terrible, Falvey sucks”) or focusing on the emotion of it all. I too think some trades were better (and worse) than others, but there’s really no way of knowing how they will turn out except for some “gut feeling” one way or the other. If the Twins got nobody that could help them, then yes, that would be a disaster. However, if somebody turns into a big star, people will praise the deals for a long time. Sometimes you get lucky (Pierszinski). Sometimes you don’t (Santana). Grading it in the moment is pretty tough. For me, I was opposed to the general fire sale of the bullpen and remain adamantly opposed to trading Ryan, but it’s also something I can’t control. I was against trading Rod Carew also, but Calvin Griffith didn’t call me for my opinion. I remain a fan because I root for the Twins, not a single player, regardless of his hometown. I just hope they don’t screw it up.
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5 Reasons to Keep Watching the Twins
Rod Carews Birthday replied to Alex Boxwell's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I don't really need specific reasons. I'm a life long Twins fan and baseball fan. For me there will always be reasons to watch the games. My ongoing support for the team, however, does not prevent me from being extremely disgusted and frustrated by what has (not) been accomplished in the past few days. I think they're idiots, but unfortunately for now, they're my idiots. We're starting over. Hopefully something good will come along.- 48 replies
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I think that the grumbling about failing to build anything more than a fringe playoff team is probably amplified by the board more than it is in reality among the larger group of Twins fans. Those are some of the loudest people. I recall living through the 70's and the early 80's when we went into every season without any hope of competing. In 1977 it took great years by Carew, Bostock, Hisle, and Goltz to even get us to about 84 wins -- which was a big deal at the time (for a 4th place team). It was not a particularly great time to be a Twins fan. Fan morale was definitely low then as well. Having a team that is at least competitive gives fans hope that there might be something actually there. Nobody I know is going to say after next year's 90 loss team, "Yeah, but isn't this great, we sure are set up for 2030!".
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I think that I'm with you. Why not experiment with him? You know he has upside and if he can cure his "yips" he could be an excellent reliever. It's not like he's displacing someone with a future right now in the bullpen. With Alcala there is at least a chance. . .
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And hence, why I really hate the way this teardown was undertaken. I'm afraid that all we might have done is blow it up so that we can be terrible for a couple of years with the hope (there's that word again) that in 2027 or 2028 we might be as good as we were this year. In the meantime, we've squandered the team control of Ryan, Ober, Pablo, and Buxton. Ouch. That's not fun.
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Unenviable is an understatement. . . I have no problem giving Roden some plate appearances, but he doesn't really excite me that much as a prospect either. As for Larnach, he is what he is . . . OK. Nothing special but a passable corner OF/DH type.
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And I forgot to mention that YES, you are correct. Lee hasn't really shown any more than Julien, except that he is a better defender. Yet, many are assuming that Julien is a bust.
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I haven't given up, but I'm definitely not writing him in the lineup in permanent marker. He's got to show something more, and he needs to do it soon.
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