TwinsDr2021

Barren? The 2016 top prospects were Buxton (two time top 20 MVP), Berrios (two time all star), Kepler, Gordon, Jay and Polanco (top 15 MVP and all star). You also didn't mention Graterol, Ynoa, Javer, Wade, Diaz (who they flipped), Thorpe, Rortvedt, Arraez, Baddoo, Balazovic, Do those not guys not count? On top that they were give Sano (who was rookie of year two years prior and an all-start their first year) and Rosario who has twice finished in the top 20 in MVP voting. I get it if you look at the 2017 prospects and ignore the players that just came up or recently came up to think they were give a Barren Farm system (I will say many on here thought Romero was going to be a number 1 or 2 starter, Gonzo would fill in the back of the rotation, Mejia might be a 3 but probably a number 4 starter, and at worst Jay was going to be a shut down reliever), but to see the whole picture don't you have to look at they upside of the young guys and controllable years they were given?

The Question I have is are the Twins in a better situation than when the this Front Office took over? IMO- the major league roster is better, but the minors is worse (comparing the top 20 now to when they took over) I would say no if the talk is about rebuilding and/or starting over, My thoughts are they need to get very creative this deadline trade away some guys and trade for other guys (meaning younger controllable guys for prospects). Being a Hulu guy, I have very little interest in a rebuilding team the next few years, and probably the wrong time for Ballys to talk about charging additional money to watch a rebuilding team.

So quite well is - nothing for two years (sure Alcala pitched last year but didn't even end up with 1 hold), a relief pitcher with a 4.40 era with three holds, 3 blown saves and an injury replacement CF that can't hit in year 3. And some maybes that may help 4, 5, 6 years after the trade? I remember when fans begging to do something in 2017, 2018 and 2019 to help they team get further in the playoffs and others saying the reason the Twins couldn't trade some of the following, Lewis, Gordon, Gonslaves, Romero, Javier, Kirilloff, Jorge, Jay, Stewart, Blankenhorn Graterol, Enlow, Rooker, Thorpe, Larnach, Baddoo, Wade, and others was because these were the guys that were going to keep the window open for when Berrios and Buxton contracts were ending. And yet years later, we have two guys that look pretty darn good (Kirilloff and Larnach), but also look closer to Rosario and Kepler than Acuna and Vlad Jr. They turned Graterol into Maeda (who had great 11 games in 2020), Thorpe and Alcala are relief pitchers and Gordon looks like a utility player and a bunch of maybes. There are 3 of those guys out of baseball (Jorge,Jay, Romero), multiple that have been cut, one lost in Rule 5, another traded for a guy that was cut, some still in high A, and a couple with major injuries (Lewis and Enlow). If I did my math correct there are more guys that were in the minors with the Twins in 17 and 18, playing on others teams that on the twins, I could be wrong because I only spent a minutes looking that up. My point isn't to trade or not to trade, it is this FO has not been good with the assets it has and had, and if you look back at comments on this site, this was suppose to be the golden age of Twins baseball. All those guys I listed above were going to be the savior and bring us into an era of the twins competing every year because the minors would continue to reload the major league team. Lastly, I have no faith in the pitchers in the minors that other are excited about, because this FO philosophy for starting pitchers is crap, none of those guys are really learning to pitch or prepare for the majors, they have low pitch counts and most don't even average 5 innings per start, how are they going to be expected to jump to the majors and pitch 6 or 7 innings when they can't and don't in the minors, I take that back how are they going to finish 5 innings against major league hitters when they can't even do that in the minors.