TheLeviathan

I'm sure you do. Given how many economic theories and models there are, making sweeping, declarative statements backs that up.

Economics is a far more complicated field than your comment indicates. Which, perhaps indicates, that your suggestion may be better directed inwards.

You've allowed your political beliefs to swallow your morality entirely.

I missed the part where you researched a rebuttal and presented it.

I enjoyed it enough to read the rest after basically checking out of the Twins section of this site. Appreciate the work. Ignore our pearl clutching friends who think every comment is a political point they have to complain about.

That's partly why I suggested Elijah Moore as well. I think a good slot player like that would be really smart. For the record....I'm not saying the Vikings should deal Addison, but I'd listen if I were them. You can farm receivers in the mid rounds. You know....if we ever keep our mid-rounds.

I'm not concerned about Turner. The bend that guy showed off was stupid. But he's got to get stronger so he can rush and play from multiple spots. I hope they put a heavy muscle building routine on him. Florio seems like a guy who I respect less and less the more I hear from him. Not criticizing the article or the idea behind it....but it feels like flinging crap at the wall.

Yes, I took them seriously as a good team, but not at the same level as Detroit, Buffalo, Baltimore, Philly, and KC. But I would never use blow outs or bad losses to make that determination. If I did, the list of teams that are actually Super Bowl contenders is only Detroit. If my criteria eliminates all but one team, then my criteria is probably broken.

I don't see them paying both either and I definitely see "Free 3" making a stink. Make no mistake - I think he's really, really good. But if you're looking at players that could be traded to assemble more picks, I think that list starts with him. I don't know exactly what you get (Patriots deal 38, 69, and a future pick?) but I see why it might have appeal. Problem is that you have to replace him then. Elijah Moore, Josh Palmer, and Dyami Brown are younger FA receivers but no one that's as good as Addison unless you want to fish in the Tee Higgins waters.

If his games are swapped for Plouffe, Vegas has this as the best move the Twins make all offseason set at -500.

You probably could've had a good last paragraph, but putting Puka over JJ really discredits the rest you have to say. I've said all season, the NFL rarely has blowouts and that measure is an antiquated way of viewing the game. The Bills, as good as they look now, have had some really rough stretches. Some of the Ravens losses are preposterous. The Eagles looked terrible early. Teams go through stretches. I think this team played over their head. I'm on the record having never taken them seriously as a Super Bowl contender, but the reason here doesn't hold for me.

One sleeper part of dealing Addison is that he may be looking at a 4 game suspension and, if you get the right deal, it might be worth it. As you said, unlikely though.

There are a couple guys in that area, but the class is shallow. I don't see them dealing Hockenson for a 2nd either. I think the most likely outcome is an aggressive series of trading down. Something like going from 24 to 35-40 and in the process picking up 3-4 more picks. I don't really see anyone else that they'd get huge value for that would be a good idea to trade. Maybe Addison? But then you open up a glaring hole that needs to be filled.

Our CB situation is pretty problematic and the DB class is strong. The interior DT class is strong too. I'm sorta wondering if we don't end up doing something kinda bonkers like trading Hockenson for a 1st. Or if we do franchise Darnold in hopes of extracting a 2nd round pick out of someone. Just to add another opportunity in a draft that is strong in areas we need.

Guard is a weak point in this draft. OL in general. RB class is bonkers good though. If they take two I won't be disappointed.

Yup. That the the situation was much closer to Dobbs than we thought. It definitely was a regular occurence to run the clock down. The quote in The Athletic shows KOC laying out the play pretty basically too. It's also possible that we would see much the same with McCarthy because it's just what KOC does. Or that he's just a long winded play caller that takes every second he has.

I was listening to Purple Daily and I thought Zulgad made an interesting statement that might have gotten lost in this season and the catastrophic ending: We had a lot of delay of games or near penalties this year for the clock running down before the play got off. It sounds like there was some confirmation, due to media having access to KOC/Darnold communication, that those are happening because KOC was doing the same thing with Darnold that we saw him do with Dobbs in that Atlanta game. The insinuation was that this had been a year long feature that explains that tendency. Could be he's speculating, but that's not the way he came off. More of a "inside media circles" type of comment. FWIW.

Nick Mullins is similar to Darnold. He's an aggressive, chuck it deep style guy. He shouldn't change the approach IMO. (Also, context matters - several of those times he had to come were 3rd and Long situations. I'd prefer my coach not give up on a series if he doesn't have to. It's my one thing I am a bit disappointed in about the game - KOC did give up. He saw what I'm arguing: Darnold couldn't hit the ocean from the beach. I wish he had the guts to sit him) We did change things for Dobbs...not quite fully for a scrambling QB, but that's a major shift on very short notice. I thought, overall, he did well to get anything out of Dobbs. Or Mullins. Even Darnold. Some of this is being a victim of his own ability to improvise and coach from the sideline. All that said - I've been on here willing to criticize KOC. I've criticized his short yardage and goal line calls. The sneaks with freaking Brandon Powell pushing. The inconsistency in running the ball and when he goes for it/doesn't. He's not beyond criticism for me. What's frustrating, localized to these two games, is to see people keep claiming there are problems with his gameplan when the film quite clearly contradicts that. Sam Darnold didn't look like the guy from the previous 16 weeks. (Well...mostly. He was inaccurate on intermediate throws all year. And I think I might've posted in game threads two or three dozen times that he holds the ball too long) It is one of the most breath-taking, single human collapses I can ever recall in sports.

You don't get to become angry and defensive after you keep trying to revive the horse. You posted a link, am I not allowed to respond? Cmon. It's not like I've been negative on this team all year and waiting to pounce on Darnold. Up until three weeks ago I was firmly in "I don't know what to do. He's playing so well the decision is complicated" So spare me this tone you keep getting and then blaming me for it. Please. Getting the right QB matters even to smart coaches. Do you think the Rams and McVay paid the heavy price to upgrade from Goff to Stafford for no reason? Read that again - Goff, the current pilot of the NFL's best offense - was dumped so that McVay could see his offense rise to its best form by replacing him. Not every QB can be great, even given the ingredients to do so. What we saw from Darnold was evident: he was given all the ingredients. He was shown the recipe. He was told how to make it. He was instructed how to not start it on fire. Then he blow-torched it in such epic fashion it's still hard to fully comprehend it. What KOC needs is his Stafford. Let's hope JJ is that guy.

It's preposterous once you start to see it. I really appreciate what Darnold did this year. It was fun. It's also evident that he's not the guy. Nor should what happened the last two games give us pause about our head coach.

I got you my friend....

And if you can't watch the following link and finally see what the real problem is, I don't know what to say:

Thank you, I didn't have time to explore that data. It seemed off to me too. Even if we had gone max protect...does anyone feel like that would've changed the outcome? I sure don't. For those that want a visual of open, short receivers......brace yourself: https://x.com/VikesPA/status/1879224036875784332

The analysis on the extra blockers is a legitimate criticism. We might have tried that as an adjustment. However, that article doesn't do the same level of analysis on the pressures. 13 of the 24 pressures came after 2.5 seconds. If Matthew Stafford had held the ball 4-7 seconds, I guarantee you our pressure stats would've also been in the 50% range. Any QB who thinks they can hold the ball 4-5 seconds is going to make pressure statistics pop off the page. Unfortunately, as fans, we have the camera zoomed in on the pocket and our inclination is to blame all pressure on the OL. But the QB has a huge role in pre-snap reads, throwing the ball away, and making quick reads in limiting the damage of pressure. Or eluding it at all. Stafford and Goff demonstrated what a true starter does to limit this. Josh Allen is insane at avoiding these sorts of problems. Mahomes too. Those are high bars and obviously Sam can't be expected to be at that level....but he has to be better than he was to be a viable starting QB or not shoulder the lionshare of hte blame. The coach is no longer in his ear when those things have to happen and with Darnold, it shows. There is 10% of this KOC probably could've changed. He can't change calling a screen left and his QB takes a sack looking right. He can't fix calling a 2 yard swing pass and his QB misses by 5 yards. Or an open dig over the middle missed by 5 yards. Or literally scheming Addison open for a TD, telling his QB to throw there or throw away, only to result in a 7 second sack. You can lead a horse to water, but the SOB has to drink. Just like with Cousins doing the inverse in the past. I'm hoping, in JJ, we have someone willing to take what is given but also try to snatch big plays. (While also hoping our coach and GM invest into the running game much more heavily)

That would be a good swap depending on costs! Holland definitely fits.