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How exciting! Berrios has a replacement already! Oops. Already sent to St. Paul. "The Twins announced that they’ve claimed right-handed reliever Edgar Garcia off waivers from the Reds and optioned him to Triple-A St. Paul. Cincinnati designated Garcia for assignment earlier in the week. The 24-year-old Garcia has seen MLB time with the Phillies, Rays and Reds but limped to a 7.14 ERA in 46 1/3 innings. His Triple-A numbers are quite good, however, as he’s pitched to a 3.28 ERA with a 31.4 percent strikeout rate and 10.2 percent walk rate in 57 2/3 innings. Garcia averaged 95.1 mph on his heater in his brief time with the Reds and is in the last of his three minor-league option years. He can be shuttled between Triple-A and the big league roster for the rest of the season if the Twins choose, but he’ll be out of options next spring." https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/twins-claim-edgar-garcia-from-reds.html

I was the first and original!

Profound. Thank you.

Berrios must be nothing. After all, he was a first round/supplemental compensatory pick, which is what he could have been replaced by if he refused a qualifying offer (at least under the current CBA, which may change) after he helped the Twins in 2022. And that would have been great for the prospect lists and books, too, and would have been more development years to talk and hope about.

This is a great trade for those that like to talk about prospects and write prospect books. Not so great if you want players that acutally improve the MLB team. Will they? No one knows, and certainly won't that soon. Does this team need MLB pitching now? Certainly. Will we see a bunch of 1 year contracts of mediocre replacement level or less pitchers next year to be tortured with as filler while we wait? That's my bet. Can't wait for 2022. Year 5 (is it 5? something like that) of the Falvine reign, and the MLB team is getting worse. But the pitching is coming, right? They are pitching experts.... it has to be coming, right?

92 mph 2 seam fastball, 94 mph 4 seam fastball. Currently getting lit up in AA.

I'm glad for him that he can get AAA players out. There might be a future for him in Japan or Korea. Might make more money than he can make in MLB now, too.

When you manage your pitching staff to lose, it doesn't matter if you own team scores 14. You still come out a loser.

I am so sick of all of the FO offseason pitching acquisitions.... Robles, Happ, Colome...... at least they terminated Shoemaker. It is just ridiculous to keep playing them. Hard to trust them shaping the team anymore.

Trey Cabbage was the Twins choice for Hitter of the Week. He played in all six games for the (AA) Wind Surge. He hit .304/.320/.652 (.972) with two doubles and two home runs. Jose Miranda - six games last week, he hit .321/.345/.714 (1.059) with two doubles, three homers and six RBI (for AAA St. Paul). What. Are you just getting tired of giving Miranda more recognition? ?

How true. Rogers goes down, and who is brought up to take his active roster spot? Beau Burrows. Who? Beau Burrows! Who? Exactly. (The June waiver claim from Detroit, the team that takes all the Twins cast offs it seems, and Beau wasn't even wanted by Detroit.)

Pohlad may be fibbing, but if not, it seems that most have it wrong about the fire sale going beyond the soon to be free agents. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/twins-trade-rumors-rebuild-max-kepler.html

Like him if you want. I can't wait to see him gone. And watch the novelty on another team.

It's all on the manager. Baldelli wins game with great managing.

The Box shows that Maeda is substituted for Garver. That means we have lost Garver's bat, too.

No future for Astudillo. This is baseball, not the Harlem Globetrotters playing the Washington Generals.

Subsitutions took away the DH

How is Astudillo even on this team?

This means that if Astudillo fails, he is the runner on second for the 10th.

Well, I can only reference what there is. That is the record so far (albeit I have probably left out something), and small or not, is what they own.

Forgive me. I didn't know that 2018 doesn't count. How are any of those prospects helping this year yet? I don't consider Alcala or Celestino really helping, but you may. Same with Smeltzer, unless you like worse than replacement level pitching. Duran, when what is probably needed is done, is probably not back until 2023.... fun to write and argue about though. The acquired are a big part of the current farm system that have not risen to top prospects, and the current rating, which IS the subject of the OP. Those that graduated and made for the dropout, are all drafted players, and even the prospect lists are fading fast on Lewis, for more reasons than just his injury. The traded for prospects are supposed to fill those holes, right? I hope they all do become MLB players, but I am not so optimistic. Prospects Acquired: Jorge Alcala, Gilberto Celestino, Jhoan Duran, Luke Raley, Chase De Jong, Luis Rijo, Devin Smeltzer, Gabriel Maciel, Ryan Costello, Ernie De La Trinidad Traded: Ryan Pressly (Jorge Alcala, Gilberto Celestino), Eduardo Escobar (Ernie De La Trinidad, Jhoan Duran, Gabriel Maciel), Zach Duke (Chase De Jong, Ryan Costello), Lance Lynn (Tyler Austin, Luis Rijo), Brian Dozier ( Logan Forsythe - not a prospect, Luke Raley, Devin Smeltzer). (Not saying that we should have not traded some of them, just listing who was traded) "Ryan Pressly hit a notable benchmark with his appearance in Sunday’s 3-1 victory over the Rangers. It was Pressly’s 40th game of the season, and as Chandler Rome of The Houston Chronicle notes (Twitter link), Pressly’s 2022 club option has now hit its maximum value of $10MM, as reaching an increasing number of games pitched this season gradually raised the reliever’s option from its original $7MM figure. Should Pressly hit the 60-game threshold this season, that $10MM option will automatically become guaranteed. Given that the right-hander has excelled at Houston’s closer, it seems like a pretty good bet that Pressly’s option will vest, and the Astros won’t mind retaining an All-Star reliever for $10MM." Edit: also 2018 Not MLB player, but MLB ready Nick Anderson to Marlins for INF Brian Schales (who)?

This is what all that trading for prospects has accomplished. That, and the current Twins' record. You don't get better by trading away your best players, collecting prospects that get old, and then trading them when they are finally ready to be MLB players. Buy into that formula if you like, and most do these days it seems, but the results are not fiction.

Agree with all you say. And have been to both, the Trop about 10 games. It sure can't hurt to get a new stadium, that's for sure. I just don't think it would pay off, in the end. I know I go to games when I have to be in that state, regardless.

Come on! One just has to be more patient. Alcala is the next Ryan Pressly! All that stuff he has, you know. And all that team control. No worries. No matter how bad Alcala, or the Twins look, as long as the Twins keep fielding Astudillo and Sano ( and Happ and Colome), the whole world knows that they are serious about winning.

Why wouldn't you PH Cave, the lefty, for Sano there? Leave the K king in right on right, instead of bring in the left on right with Cave, who had been hitting in his rehab......