Riverbrian
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All teams platoon but there is no team that approaches this level of iron fistedness against the left handed hitter. 4 young left handed hitters in the past couple of years. All 4 are supposedly not able to hit left handed pitching. The only logical conclusion is that the Twins have either: A: Failed to develop a left handed hitter that can hit left handed pitching. B: Over weighted the data from left vs left matchups (not right vs right) to a scale that exceeds the weighting applied by all other 29 teams to the same data sets... and they have over weighted in comparison to the other 29 teams by a significant margin. C: They are trying with all their might to keep the Twins percentage of left handers in line with the 10% of left handers in the human population.- 98 replies
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Twins looking at back-up infielders...
Riverbrian replied to Twins_Fan_in_NJ's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Here they come. Walking down the street. They get the funniest looks from. Everyone they meet. Hey Hey... the Right Handers. Handling the short side. They're too busy linking to keep the left handers tied. -
Psst Others are also affected or effected... whichever is accurate. Wallner, Larnach, Julien, Emma and Jenkins will only be able to reach the development level of at best always needing a 4 Million dollar Margot, 6 million dollar Farmer or 6 million dollar Bader on the roster. Thought I'd try help... You are doing fine... Keep fighting the good fight.
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And everybody watching that game... They Knew... Without a doubt... They knew... That you were going to make that catch.
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None of the three players that you listed are making 6.25 million this year. That is Chia Pet's point. Chia Pet would rather not spend 20 million dollars of money on a group of players who produce a low bar that can be at least matched by a Pre-Arb player making the minimum. He'd rather combine that money into a single better player that actually moves the needle. Larnach, Miranda and Lee will be back with the club next year. Larnach, Miranda and Lee are part of the future... they and others are the key to developing a team that will not require 6 million spent on the Harrison Bader look alike in 2026.
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I can see the logic in letting Emma do some time in the minors. Injuries will provide a spot for him eventually. Will he stay when he gets his moment is another question of course. You are going to need some players in AAA for call up during the season. However... Yeah... I'm with ya on a big picture scale. With some it's almost like... the prospect or pre-arb player has to produce over .800 OPS to be worth consideration while the vet costing 6 million is OK with a .650 If Emma in his first year just does exactly what will Harrison Bader provide. You get the same production for 5 and half million less. You have given Emma experience that can be applied to 2026 while Bader is nowhere to be found in 2026 because he is shopping for work with another team next year.
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Last Year around this time. I questioned if giving up one big piece (Polanco) for 4 smaller pieces was good strategy. I wasn't even being definitive at the time but you took that question and forced me to defend Polanco while you talked about how the Twins were log-jammed with Julien and Farmer covering 2B and then you proceded to beat me over the head with how Cleveland built their roster like I didn't understand how Cleveland built their roster even after I acknowledged that the Twins may have won the trade with the acquisition of Gabriel Gonzalez alone. You also lumped me into a group of people who wanted the Twins to spend like there is no tomorrow when I've never once complained about pay roll. If you are capable of understanding my point. I'll answer your question. If your not capable of understanding my point... Just ignore my answer and we will keep our distance from each other. Your Question: Which RH (Other than Vazquez) do I want to get rid of or replace with a LH? My Answer: Harrison Bader
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There is no justification for wishing that the Twins don't make the playoffs. NONE. The very second you typed that your opinion no longer mattered to me. And now you think others apparently hate the Twins more than you because they are not fans of the acquisition. But wishing they don't make the playoff is an indication of love. Don't talk to me about hate. I'll be cheering my butt off for Hader to do well. If he does well, I'll acknowledge it. So will Chia Pet. I'll go back to asking... you won't do it but I'll ask again. Go back... read what Chia Pet is saying. Try to understand what he is saying and try again.
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According to roster resource. The current projected Twins roster contains: 8 Right Handed Hitters 3 Left Handed Hitters 2 Switch Hitters 75% of the pitching that the Twins will face is right handed. By playing the left vs left numbers correctly... They are playing it wrong by over focusing on the 25%. They win the battle and lose the war. Harrison Bader is just a continuation down this path.
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I'm well aware of what the Tigers did. What the Tigers did was get rid of every single vet they had at the deadline because they thought they had no chance. They traded the vets that had enough value to interest other teams. Flaherty, Canha, Chafin and Carson Kelly. They Cut Gio Urshela and Shelby Miller and the last vet standing... expensive defensive wizard Javier Baez was placed on the injured list to conclude his season. They cleared the deck for young players making the minimum from the 6th ranked farm system in baseball. (Twins were 2nd Ranked in 2024). With a team of nothing but young players they went on a best in baseball run to make the playoffs, by passing our Twins as you cheered on TD for the Twins to lose because they didn't deserve the playoffs in your opinion. The Tigers young blinded by the lights talent then knocked off the Astros in the playoffs before falling to Cleveland 3 games to 2. By bringing up the Tigers... you are actually at least partially making Chia Pet's argument. Yet you are trying so hard to argue against. The Tigers in 2024 does not justify the signing of Harrison Bader for 6.25 MILLION DOLLARS. You and anyone giving you a thumbs up for this comment. Should probably step back and try to understand what Chia Pet and Nicksaviking are saying because bringing up the Tigers shows that you don't understand.
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Myself... I don't listen to the opinions of someone who wanted the Twins to lose last September in order to keep them out of the playoffs. That's the guy you are talking to.
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It's lost on me but I see it frequently on TD. People are so afraid that Helman or Martin or Keirsay will OPS .620 that they will pay 6 million for a player that they know will OPS .620.
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You have a point But you might be missing the most important point. Having no value at the trade deadline is not justification for keeping the player. It is the exact opposite. Having no value at the trade deadline is justification for removing the player from the clubhouse.
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I'm not sure why everyone is comparing Bader with Martin. I'm pretty sure that Bader doesn't knock Martin off the 26 man roster. Helman or Kiersay just got knocked off the opening day 26 man roster.
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I don't throw around WAR... Don't even look at it. So...
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There is absolutely no upside for Martin. If you give Bader his AB's.
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Comprehensive list of all rookies with over 100 AB's. If there were more rookies with over 100 AB's. The Answer is... Yes I could list a few more players.
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I'm not mad at Bader... I wasn't mad at Margot. I'm mad at whatever statistical reasoning that the Twins use... that no other team uses to the Twins degree... that causes them to sign short platoons for multi millions of dollar. I'm a system guy... I'm not a specific player guy. Our last discussions ended when I realized that you were talking about specific players. I'm not... It's the system... and yes... I knew this was coming.
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You and I both know... Emma's 2025 fate has been sealed. You see it... The Rally Goat sees it, Doc Bauer sees it. Other's don't. Other's seem to think that Emma is immune to this left vs left thing. The signing of Bader which is not a surprise... all but guarantees that Emma will suffer the same fate of Wallner, Larnach, Kirilloff and Julien. Once you sign the right handed guy... he will take the AB's against left handed pitchers. You paid 6 million for him to be that guy. He gets Emma's AB's against left handed pitchers. I'll bet money with anyone but the Twins front office right now.
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The defensive minded posters will be happy. He will be rostered as a short side handcuff to Larnach or Wallner. Martin will probably be the short side handcuff to either Larnach or Wallner. We've got our match and the process continues. Bader will also be the primary CF when Buxton gets hurt and he will get hurt. What does this mean? It means that Bader is going to face more right handed pitching than left handed pitching. Bank on it. It also means that when Emma is called up. Bader is going to face left handed pitching and Emma won't. Bank on it. It was exactly what I didn't want them to do but I knew it was exactly what they would do. 6.25 Million spent and it will all but gaurentee that we will have to spend 6 or 7 million on his replacement next year. Will the Circle... Be Unbroken. By and By Lord By and By.
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All my years of playing... All my years coaching... standing at 3B deciding weather to wave or stop sign runners. The decision is made based upon on where the fielder is in relation to the ball and what the fielder will have to do to get in position to throw. The time it takes to stop, turn plant and throw is the difference between out and safe. A weak armed outfielder can still throw the ball much faster than any human being can run.
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When I played. My decision making process in regards to taking the extra base, rarely was the strength of the arm the main consideration. It was the positioning of the fielder. If weak armed OF was near the ball or had the ball in his hands... I ain't going. If Strong armed OF wasn't near the ball or if he was heading the opposite way and had to turn his body to reset his position... I was going. Tagging on a fly ball. Yep... that's an arm decision unless it takes momentum to get to the ball. The rest of the game (most of the game) it ain't arm... it's the OF'er getting to the ball... how quickly he gets there.
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According to Roster Resource. The current projected Twins 26 man roster contains: 8 right handed hitters 3 left handed hitters 2 switch hitters Apparently 8 isn't enough... apparently we need 9 right handed hitters to face all that right handed pitching that comprises 75% of the arms.
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He played 15 innings. 6 AB's. Called up July 14... Sent back down June 24. 4 of those days were all-star break so he was in uniform for 5 games. On July 14. Kyle Farmer was slashing .189/.291/.265 - Margot was slashing .233/.296/.332
