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    How Twins and Red Sox Could Match Up on an Edouard Julien Trade


    Cody Schoenmann

    Maybe these two AL Wild Card leaders can help one another by trading from strengths to address a key shortcoming.

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    Over 93 games played, Boston Red Sox second basemen have netted a 68 wRC+. This ranks them second-to-last in offensive production at the keystone position. Second-year player Enmanuel Valdez (85 wRC+ over 182 plate appearances) has spent the most time of any Red Sox player at the position, notching 385 1/3 innings over 51 games. However, the 25-year-old infielder has since been demoted to Triple-A Worcester. The team has also cycled through an olio of other options at second base. Here is how the pieces of that rough-hewn jigsaw puzzle have performed this season offensively:

    • Vaughn Grissom (186 innings at 2B) - 1 wRC+ over 87 plate appearances
    • David Hamilton (118 innings at 2B) - 100 wRC+ over 205 plate appearances
    • Jamie Westbrook (58 innings at 2B) - 81 wRC+ over 30 plate appearances
    • Pablo Reyes (39 innings at 2B) - 24 wRC+ over 64 plate appearances

    Boston has performed well above expectations this season, sitting only a game and a half back from the Twins for the second AL Wild Card and possessing a 41.4% chance of earning a playoff spot, according to FanGraphs. Much of the organization's newfound success can be attributed to a starting pitching renaissance (seventh-best staff ERA in MLB) cultivated by former Twins pitcher turned baseball executive Craig Breslow, pitching coach Andrew Bailey, and director pitching of pitching Justin Willard (Twins pitching coordinator from 2021-2023).

    Interestingly, the Twins have a serviceable second baseman waiting in the wings at Triple-A in Edouard Julien, and they also have a need for starting pitching help. Would it be wise for Twins decision-makers to send the left-handed hitter to Boston, in return for starting pitching help? Let's take a look.

    The Twins' offense has become a powerhouse, posting the highest batting average, slugging, wOBA, and wRC+ in baseball since Apr. 21. Having been the hottest lineup in MLB for well over two months has made a few fringy contributors expendable. Willi Castro, José Miranda, Brooks Lee, and the soon-to-return Royce Lewis have fixed themselves as irreplaceable members of the team's infield, making Julien less so.

    Julien struggled to produce offensively with the Twins in May (42 wRC+ over 81 plate appearances) and when he was first demoted to Triple-A St. Paul in early June. However, Julien has significantly improved in July, and looks more like the disciplined, power-hitting lefty who posted a 136 wRC+ over 408 plate appearances last season.

    His recent offensive resurgence is an encouraging sign that team decision-makers could use to their benefit come Jul. 30, particularly with the second base-needy Red Sox. Flush with starters and relievers who are performing well, Boston could use their abundance of arms to entice the Twins enough to acquire the intriguing left-handed hitting infielder. At first glance, starting pitchers Nick Pivetta and Kutter Crawford catch one's attention as appealing right-handed hurlers who could fortify Minnesota's rotation. However, they have become staples of the Sox's resurgent rotation, making it highly unlikely that Breslow and company part ways with them amid a playoff push, especially with the team directly in front of them in the Wild Card standings.

    However, there is a thought-provoking mock trade idea that could benefit both teams in the short and long term:

    Bernardino has been a cog in Boston's bullpen, notching a 1.69 ERA, 2.76 FIP, and 22.1% strikeout rate over 32 innings pitched. The 32-year-old southpaw has also given up zero home runs this season, while leaving 82.5% of runners on base. He would instantly become Minnesota's best left-handed reliever, permitting the team to downgrade Steven Okert to a lower-leverage role, demote Kody Funderburk to Triple-A St. Paul, and potentially part ways with the aged and fading Caleb Thielbar. Coffey, 20, is an appealing middle infielder who could offset Julien's departure from the Twins system. He has an above-average arm at short (he threw 94 MPH as a pitcher in high school), while possessing plus raw power that could translate into formidable in-game power as he gets more at-bats.

    The recent trend of injuries to core infield members Lewis, Miranda, and Correa dampens the prospect of trading Julien in the immediate future. However, none of their injuries should hold them out long-term, meaning a lack of infield depth hope could easily be a non-issue come Jul. 30. In this hypothetical scenario, the Red Sox would acquire a steady defensive second baseman who performed 36% better than average at the plate just last season. He has starting second baseman potential and, at minimum, could function as a platoon partner with the right-handed hitting Hamilton.

    In return, the Twins would receive a reliever who would instantly become the club's best left-handed option out of the 'pen and could be a driving force in helping the team hunt down Cleveland in the standings. Also, Coffey would be a welcomed addition to a minor-league system rich with talent in the low minors. This challenge trade could be mutually beneficial for two parties residing right next to each other in the AL Wild Card standings.

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    so, discovered this by way of google as a bored red sox fan, and i feel like this content reads as a surface level understanding of the red sox needs, while focusing on the twins needs. (which makes sense given that it's a twins website, but still it's not a great proposal)

    - we do have a second base problem, but we would absolutely not want edouard julien. this has nothing to do with his play as i know very little about the guy. what i do know is he is left handed. the red sox best hitters are all left handed, and while we desperately need righty middle infield help (ideally a shortstop since we have a lot of second baseman only guys and want to move Rafaela back to the outfield). not only that but we have even more lefty talent on the way, we need right handed hitters.

    - there is no good reason for us to trade brennan bernardino unless we are getting someone we want and as previously stated, julien is not that guy.

    20 minutes ago, redsoxthrowaway said:

    so, discovered this by way of google as a bored red sox fan, and i feel like this content reads as a surface level understanding of the red sox needs, while focusing on the twins needs. (which makes sense given that it's a twins website, but still it's not a great proposal)

    - we do have a second base problem, but we would absolutely not want edouard julien. this has nothing to do with his play as i know very little about the guy. what i do know is he is left handed. the red sox best hitters are all left handed, and while we desperately need righty middle infield help (ideally a shortstop since we have a lot of second baseman only guys and want to move Rafaela back to the outfield). not only that but we have even more lefty talent on the way, we need right handed hitters.

    - there is no good reason for us to trade brennan bernardino unless we are getting someone we want and as previously stated, julien is not that guy.

    Thanks for giving us a different perspective on the situation!

    On 7/18/2024 at 5:24 PM, bean5302 said:

    Some other top 100 prospects and how they rank at Baseballtradevalues
    Jenkins = 63.8
    Lee = 30.8
    Julien = 30.1
    Keaschall = 20.7
    Festa = 13.7
    Matthews = 11.2
    Gonzalez = 11.0

    Some frontline to mid rotation starting pitcher value
    Cease 26.8
    Gallen 26.4
    Fedde 20.9
    Luzardo 17.2
    Eflin 17.1
    Gray 10.6
    Flaherty 8.5
    Kikuchi 5.3
    Eovaldi 4.8
    Scherzer 3.6
    Gausman 0.2
    Verlander -1.8
    Bassitt -5.7
    Darvish -21.8 

    With the Diamondbacks once again over .500, I'd think Gallen would be hard to obtain, but I'd love for the Twins to snap him up if Arizona falters.

    So, I get that you are just printing what somebody else has put into print……….how can Eddie Julien be worth more than Dylan Cease…..Gallen……Fedde????

    I guess $$$ cost is in the mix as well as years of control. Fedde isn’t really much above AVERAGE at all…..he only costs $7.5M next year…….I’d trade Eddie for Tanner Scott as a Rental and take the $14M we may have to sign a guy going forward for 3 years. An absolute dominant Pen!!!

    On 7/18/2024 at 12:35 PM, DJL44 said:

    I would rather send Julien to Toronto as part of a deal for Kikuchi. I'm sure the Blue Jays would love to have a Canadian player who can hit the snot out of the ball in Fenway.

    Not so sure about that. At the second playoff game vs Toronto last year, there were some rowdy Canadians around us calling him a separatist and a Quebecois rat. 

    12 hours ago, RpR said:

    Re-establish in rhe MiLB, which he is not doing now.

    Yes I would wait for him to re establish value at the mlb level, or at least give him a long runway to do so.  That may take some time but it seems like he is starting to trend in the right direction.

    If there is a chance to trade him in the future while he is producing in the mlb I wouldn't mind them doing it.

    The time to trade him was last off season at his peak, but that is a crazy hard move to make.                           




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