Offseason Trade Target: Fixing Jon Gray's Slider

Not opposed, since I don't see Odo coming back unless you are talking around $5 million and don't think that is going to happen.  Again the medicals are going to be interesting.

There was a lot of talk about Gray earlier comparing him to Garret Cole. Lot of the numbers matched up then but w/ one big difference, he doesn`t come close to Cole`s spin rate or the movement of his 4 seamer. Moving away from Coors will be a great benefit, he`ll have to totally revamp his pitch selection & mind set. Although I`m not as high on him as before, I still think he could be a very good pitcher. I`d be for a trade depending who we trade for him. Colorado must be demoralized after this season, they probably want to rebuild

The demand for Odorizzi might have gone down also. He can pitch.

Hard to be an optimist about this.

I don’t see Gray being much of an addition at this point. Maybe there’s some upside still to unlock, but I’m not sure it would be worth the effort. Given where the Twins are as a team, I think it makes more sense to give the young arms a chance while bringing in a couple veterans as backup options. I suppose Gray could fit that Bill...

I like Brandon Warne's idea of swapping Rosie for Gray. Pretty fair trade idea since they are both nontender candidates. He could take the 5th spot if we sign Odo or Gausman as our 4th starter.

If his value is on the low end, why would Rockies look to move him now?  Unless there are teams that believe they can unlock his full potential when he was drafted, few teams will give up much at this point.  Rockies should hold onto him, if they think they can get some good numbers from him early in the season and flip him for more on a rental, when competing teams will give up a little more.  

I am sure the Rockies will shop him, I am just guessing the waters will be luke warm at best for him right now. 

I see a guy whose numbers suggest that he can't find the plate and is forced to throw his low movement FB to keep from walking guys and pays the price for it.  Moving away from Coors will put him in heavier air, which will help the movement on the FB but will also exacerbate his plate finding issues with the rest of his pitches. With the previous shoulder issues and a plan to get him to use the slider more will probably earn him TJ surgery in 1-2 years in trying to 'remake' his throwing motion.

The Twins are contenders. In that scenario, I'm only signing a project if he projects as the 5th or 6th starter.

I think Gray will cost too much for that role.

I feel like we’ve been talking about Gray as a potential trade and breakout candidate for a decade.

Not saying it’s a bad idea, but maybe there are better/different options to consider?

Why should we go after injured players? Can we get a real medical report that will show he is worth the risk? Otherwise, we'll just have another mid-high priced player watching from who knows where. As for trading Rosey for him or anybody? That's a no-no in my book.